Tony LaRussa DUI arrest

[Shilzzz]

I find it rather disturbing and disgusting how quick people are to blow off such a "low" level of BAC.

 

DUI is DUI. People die from it everyday. Just because you think you can handle it and that low numbers aren't that bad doesn't make it true.

 

people die from many things everyday. this turned out fine for everybody except for a fine and loss of licnese, LaRussa should undoubtably be fine and everyone else can breathe

 

i don't think that's the point. people don't put themselves in a position to harm other people everyday. drunk driving is no shrug off. i'm honestly suprised he's getting a pass here, of all places, for drunk driving, of all things. and if he had been asleep for any amount of time his bac may have been quite higher when he first started to drive into the night.

 

not a good look.

[rocket]

how embarassing. i demand the cardinals be stripped of the world series title

[98navigator]

how embarassing. i demand the cardinals be stripped of the world series title

 

:lol:

[RichHillIsABeast]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

[Bruno7481]

I think people are just becoming desensitized to DUI offenses. Inevitably the argument always comes up, "Well, he didn't do anything nobody else has ever done." Not EVERYONE has.

 

I'm rather sensitive to this recently though. The school I teach at had a student killed recently, a junior, after being hit by a drunk driver. The real sad part is that the person that hit him also went to the same school, they were a senior.

[davearm]

I find it rather disturbing and disgusting how quick people are to blow off such a "low" level of BAC.

 

DUI is DUI. People die from it everyday. Just because you think you can handle it and that low numbers aren't that bad doesn't make it true.

 

The courts will take it into account. If he had been .25, it would have definitely been worse for him.

 

How does that justify pretending this isn't a big deal? DUI is DUI. He's lucky he didn't kill anybody. Obviously he was in no shape to drive.

You've said "DUI is DUI" twice now.

 

That sure seems to ignore the fact that the societal risk increases in direct proportion to BAC. A driver at >0.20 presents a much different, and more serious, risk than the same driver at <0.10.

 

For that reason, it's perfectly appropriate for people's level of outrage to be in proportion to the BAC reading, as well.

[cubweiser03]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

Its weird it wasnt in park. Dudes lucky somebody came along otherwise hed have crashed into something eventually.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Isn't Tony a recovering alcoholic? I thought I read somewhere that he had used his own experience to help Ecksersley turn his career around.

 

Either way, this is not a trivial matter. Let's hope this distraction helps pave the way for a 60 win season for the Cardinals.

[UMFan83]

.092?

 

How blown out of proportion is this gonna get?

 

I know its not that bad, but its illegal for a reason

[C.C.]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

Its weird it wasnt in park. Dudes lucky somebody came along otherwise hed have crashed into something eventually.

 

Going at 2 MPH he coudln't cause that much damage.

[b_wiggy_66]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

 

:lol:

[goonys evil twin]

For that reason, it's perfectly appropriate for people's level of outrage to be in proportion to the BAC reading, as well.

 

It's perfectly fine to be more outraged at a higher level. What's disgusting and ignorant is the dismissive attitude toward the light end. "That used to be legal." Nonsense like that is absurd.

[Electron Blue]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

Its weird it wasnt in park. Dudes lucky somebody came along otherwise hed have crashed into something eventually.

 

Going at 2 MPH he coudln't cause that much damage.

 

You think his car tops out at 2 mph? In that case, I don't know what we're all worried about.

[David]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

Its weird it wasnt in park. Dudes lucky somebody came along otherwise hed have crashed into something eventually.

 

Going at 2 MPH he coudln't cause that much damage.

 

You think his car tops out at 2 mph? In that case, I don't know what we're all worried about.

 

Considering he was sleeping, I think he's assuming (rightly or wrongly), that at that point, all he'd be doing is idling forward.

[Electron Blue]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

Its weird it wasnt in park. Dudes lucky somebody came along otherwise hed have crashed into something eventually.

 

Going at 2 MPH he coudln't cause that much damage.

 

You think his car tops out at 2 mph? In that case, I don't know what we're all worried about.

 

Considering he was sleeping, I think he's assuming (rightly or wrongly), that at that point, all he'd be doing is idling forward.

 

That was my guess too. But it just doesn't matter, IMO. That's like saying Tony considered driving drunk and decided it was okay because, by the time he was found asleep, the car would be stopped and no one would be in danger. What about all the driving he did (or potentially could have done) before he sloooowly rolled to a safe stop?

 

EDIT: on second thought, I really don't even disagree with cubbiechris, I was just looking at the issue as a whole (drunk driving) not the specific part he was refering to. no hard feelings, I'm not arguing :)

Edited March 22, 2007 by Electron Blue

[E.J.]

He was passed out in his car w/o putting the car in park? Didn't even blow a 0.1 BAC? Lightweight.

 

Its weird it wasnt in park. Dudes lucky somebody came along otherwise hed have crashed into something eventually.

 

Going at 2 MPH he coudln't cause that much damage.

 

And what happens if he shifts while he's asleep and his foot hits the accelerator? The fact that he was over the legal limit, and passed out while the car was in drive should tell you right there that he was in no condition to drive. He was lucky not to hurt someone.

[Soul]

For that reason, it's perfectly appropriate for people's level of outrage to be in proportion to the BAC reading, as well.

 

It's perfectly fine to be more outraged at a higher level. What's disgusting and ignorant is the dismissive attitude toward the light end. "That used to be legal." Nonsense like that is absurd.

 

No, it's not absurd. I was merely trying to gage the level of outrage I would apply to this case. The fact that his BAC wasn't all that high is definitely a factor. I'm not saying it's trivial, I'm just saying he shouldn't be hung from the highest tree as I would advocate for someone who was .25 BAC and plowed into a bus full of kids.

 

You seem to be unable to make that distinction. That's fine, but it's also your problem, not mine. I'm not going to advocate throwing LaRussa to the wolves as I would someone who actually killed someone and was way further above the limit. I would more advocate treatment, and appropriate misdemeanor punishment. And I'm pretty sure the courts will agree.

[The Voice of Reason]

Maybe the Courts will force Tony to lecture the public on the evils and destruction caused by drunk drivers like himself in place of his current PETA lectures.

 

The fact that he didn't hurt someone is pure luck and irrelevant.

[reggiemiller rules]

Its funny but I dont remember there being that much outcry last year on this board when the Cubs 3rd base coach got a DUI.

[Soul]

Maybe the Courts will force Tony to lecture the public on the evils and destruction caused by drunk drivers like himself in place of his current PETA lectures.

 

The fact that he didn't hurt someone is pure luck and irrelevant.

 

It's the difference between a misdemeanor DUI charge and manslaughter. If that's irrelevant to you, I don't know what else to say.

[cubweiser03]

Its funny but I dont remember there being that much outcry last year on this board when the Cubs 3rd base coach got a DUI.

 

Sure, a lot of people called him a douchebag. He was riding a motorcyle even more careless.

[Electron Blue]

Its funny but I dont remember there being that much outcry last year on this board when the Cubs 3rd base coach got a DUI.

 

Tony Larussa is much more high-profile than . . . literally forgot his name. Point made :)

 

For better or worse fame is a factor in public reaction.

[davearm]

For that reason, it's perfectly appropriate for people's level of outrage to be in proportion to the BAC reading, as well.

 

It's perfectly fine to be more outraged at a higher level. What's disgusting and ignorant is the dismissive attitude toward the light end. "That used to be legal." Nonsense like that is absurd.

"That used to be legal" is not absurd nonsense. It's a fact. DUI is a legal definition, and one that has changed over time.

 

By your absolute "DUI is DUI" logic, your reaction to the situation should change from whatever you'd label it now to basically no reaction at all if LaRussa had blown a 0.93 a couple of years ago instead of now.

[Wheelimus]

Gotta love some other team having a huge distraction for once.

 

It's not the biggest deal in the world, but he'll no doubt miss a little time on court dates and any ordered treatment. Sure won't help the Cards.

[Jehrico]

Its funny but I dont remember there being that much outcry last year on this board when the Cubs 3rd base coach got a DUI.

 

Tony Larussa is much more high-profile than . . . literally forgot his name. Point made :)

 

For better or worse fame is a factor in public reaction.

I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but my initial comment considered the likely overreaction that never materialized. I thought people were going to call for him to be fired over it, which I don't think is prudent. He should be punished through both the courts and MLB. I just don't think he should lose his job if it is a first time offense, as was reported earlier. That shouldn't be interpreted as any form of leniency however.