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perhaps you marquis bashers should look at what carpenter did in 5+ seasons with the jays before he became a card. jason certainly has the stuff to turn his career around too. quoting stats on why he has been a bad pitcher doesnt mean he wont be a good one in the future.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/carpech01.shtml

 

While there's a likely chance that Marquis will improve over his '06 numbers, it makes no sense to include Carpenter as a point of reference. Marquis has been healthy his entire career unlike Carpenter and Marquis doesn't have the FB, curve, control, or command of Carpenter.

 

check out cc's walk totals with toronto.

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perhaps you marquis bashers should look at what carpenter did in 5+ seasons with the jays before he became a card. jason certainly has the stuff to turn his career around too. quoting stats on why he has been a bad pitcher doesnt mean he wont be a good one in the future.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/carpech01.shtml

 

While there's a likely chance that Marquis will improve over his '06 numbers, it makes no sense to include Carpenter as a point of reference. Marquis has been healthy his entire career unlike Carpenter and Marquis doesn't have the FB, curve, control, or command of Carpenter.

 

check out cc's walk totals with toronto.

Okay

 

1998 - 2.6

1999 - 2.1

2000 - 3.4

2001 - 2.8

 

EqBB per 9.

 

Marquis career is 3.1. Again Carpenter IS NOT THE STANDARD.

 

Sure Marquis can do what he did, but theres like a 1 in 100 chance. Not a very good chance...

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Marquis has a wonderful effect on people.

 

Lol, I don't even think he'll be of much use either. I mailed out my Mabry autographed jersey number this afternoon (what was i thinking?) BIg ex-cardinal day.

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Some more interesting facts on Jason Marquis...

 

Guns don't kill people. Jason Marquis kills People.

 

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Jason Marquis allows to live.

 

Jason Marquis does not sleep. He waits.

 

The chief export of Jason Marquis is Pain.

 

Jason Marquis has two speeds. Walk, and Kill.

 

The leading causes of death in the United States are: 1. Heart Disease 2. Jason Marquis 3. Cancer

 

Jason Marquis drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls.

 

Jason Marquis is my Homeboy.

 

Jason Marquis doesn't go hunting.... Jason Marquis GOES KILLING

 

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Jason Marquis.

 

Jason Marquis doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

 

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Jason Marquis has allowed to live.

 

Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Jason Marquis.

 

Jason Marquis does not sleep. He waits.

 

Jason Marquis is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.

 

Jason Marquis is the reason why Waldo is hiding.

 

Jason Marquis counted to infinity - twice.

 

 

When Jason Marquis does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.

 

Jason Marquis is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.

 

Jason Marquis’ hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.

 

There is no such thing as global warming. Jason Marquis was cold, so he turned the sun up.

 

Jason Marquis can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.

 

Jason Marquis doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.

 

Jason Marquis gave Mona Lisa that smile.

 

Jason Marquis does not get frostbite. Jason Marquis bites frost.

 

Wait. Jason Marquis doesn't refer to himself in the third person?

 

What a wuss.

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Marquis has a wonderful effect on people.

 

Lol, I don't even think he'll be of much use either. I mailed out my Mabry autographed jersey number this afternoon (what was i thinking?) BIg ex-cardinal day.

 

Not to pile it on but I read this on another board today and I thought it was funny:

 

 

I just heard Mike Murphy on WSCR say the Cubs are one player away from a trip to the WS. Unfortunately, I think that player is Marquis.

 

 

 

That said, if Marquis plays well for the Cubs it will drive Cards fans nuts.

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perhaps you marquis bashers should look at what carpenter did in 5+ seasons with the jays before he became a card. jason certainly has the stuff to turn his career around too. quoting stats on why he has been a bad pitcher doesnt mean he wont be a good one in the future.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/carpech01.shtml

 

While there's a likely chance that Marquis will improve over his '06 numbers, it makes no sense to include Carpenter as a point of reference. Marquis has been healthy his entire career unlike Carpenter and Marquis doesn't have the FB, curve, control, or command of Carpenter.

 

check out cc's walk totals with toronto.

 

And look where he's at now. Carpenter gets healthy and goes to one of the best pitching coaches in the game and finally gets to the point where his production matches his stuff and excels.

 

Marquis doesn't have the stuff and has already been through 2 of the better pitching coaches over the last 20 years while healthy and producing flucuating results.

 

Different styles of pitchers with different talent levels under different circumstances of trying to rebound. I don't see any similarity that has value.

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Marquis won't be a world-burner, but I think he could be average. Let's hope for some stellar D and the return of his sinker.

 

What a ringing endorsement. Paying 21M to hope for mediocrity.

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Well, one thing's for certain, if Marquis somehow has a good year this year, this board will likely be firmly back in Larry Rothschild's corner again.

 

Not that I am anticipating that happening.

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If it's any consolation, I think Marquis can hit better than Izturis. :D

 

16.5m better? Not really.

 

That's true-and there was an article lately that had the difference between a good hitting pitcher and a poor hitting pitcher as something like .4 ERA, right? I think that was about the difference-it was somewhere in between .3 and .6 extra value that a good hitting pitcher brought to a team over a really poor hitting one.

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If it's any consolation, I think Marquis can hit better than Izturis. :D

 

16.5m better? Not really.

 

That's true-and there was an article lately that had the difference between a good hitting pitcher and a poor hitting pitcher as something like .4 ERA, right? I think that was about the difference-it was somewhere in between .3 and .6 extra value that a good hitting pitcher brought to a team over a really poor hitting one.

 

I'm interested and would like a link.

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If it's any consolation, I think Marquis can hit better than Izturis. :D

 

16.5m better? Not really.

 

That's true-and there was an article lately that had the difference between a good hitting pitcher and a poor hitting pitcher as something like .4 ERA, right? I think that was about the difference-it was somewhere in between .3 and .6 extra value that a good hitting pitcher brought to a team over a really poor hitting one.

 

I'm interested and would like a link.

 

I read this too, I think it was at the hardball times.

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If it's any consolation, I think Marquis can hit better than Izturis. :D

 

16.5m better? Not really.

 

That's true-and there was an article lately that had the difference between a good hitting pitcher and a poor hitting pitcher as something like .4 ERA, right? I think that was about the difference-it was somewhere in between .3 and .6 extra value that a good hitting pitcher brought to a team over a really poor hitting one.

 

I'm interested and would like a link.

 

Here it is-thanks to IMB for helping me remember where to look:

 

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/hitting-pitchers/

 

They have the difference between the best hitting pitchers and the worst at about half a run of ERA.

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so Marquis's ERA really was 5.50 last season? :lol:

 

No, the difference between the two extremes is half a run, it appears. So compared to average he lowered his ERA by ~.25

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