GM Rankings

[KingCubsFan]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

[YearofDaCubs]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

[daske17]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

 

I don't know about all that now. Hendry may be bad, but is he worse that Jim Bowden or J.P. Ricciardi? I'd put him somewhere between 15-17 personally.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Ouch! Behind Bowden?

[YearofDaCubs]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

 

I don't know about all that now. Hendry may be bad, but is he worse that Jim Bowden or J.P. Ricciardi? I'd put him somewhere between 15-17 personally.

Hendry is bad, very bad. Any monkey can sign players through FA if they have the available funds to do so, and Soriano didn't come cheap either.

[CubinNY]

I don't know about the rankings. I think they are subjective. But the comments are right on the money for each GM. I do think Cashman is better than he is percieved to be. Anyone who can manage the NY media and Steinbrenner's Tampa group is pretty damn good.

[Elrhino]

If Kerry Wood and Mark Prior could stay healty, where is Hendry ranked?

[daske17]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

 

I don't know about all that now. Hendry may be bad, but is he worse that Jim Bowden or J.P. Ricciardi? I'd put him somewhere between 15-17 personally.

Hendry is bad, very bad. Any monkey can sign players through FA if they have the available funds to do so, and Soriano didn't come cheap either.

 

Well, if that's the case, then Omar Minaya shouldn't be listed as high as he is. He seemed to throw nothing but money at Beltran and Pedro, traded for Delgado while picking up most of the tab, and had his minor leaguers already in place before becoming GM.

 

I'm not saying that Hendry is the best GM ever, I just don't believe he's as bad as ranked.

[jyoung55]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

 

I don't know about all that now. Hendry may be bad, but is he worse that Jim Bowden or J.P. Ricciardi? I'd put him somewhere between 15-17 personally.

Hendry is bad, very bad. Any monkey can sign players through FA if they have the available funds to do so, and Soriano didn't come cheap either.

 

Whether you think its a fluke or not, I dont know how you judge Hendry without at least mentioning Lee, Barrett and, here's the big one, RAMIREZ.

[abuck1220]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

 

I don't know about all that now. Hendry may be bad, but is he worse that Jim Bowden or J.P. Ricciardi? I'd put him somewhere between 15-17 personally.

Hendry is bad, very bad. Any monkey can sign players through FA if they have the available funds to do so, and Soriano didn't come cheap either.

 

Whether you think its a fluke or not, I dont know how you judge Hendry without at least mentioning Lee, Barrett and, here's the big one, RAMIREZ.

 

i judge hendry by wins. and in that regard, he's bad.

 

and if you judge him by win per dollar, he's the worst.

[David]

If Jim Hendry hadn't hired Dusty Baker who went on to overuse and abuse Prior and Wood's arms to the point of injury, where is Hendry ranked?

 

 

Fixed.

[cheapseats]

If Kerry Wood and Mark Prior could stay healty, where is Hendry ranked?

 

He'd rank higher, because it would mean he didn't sign Dusty Baker to manage the team in 2003.

[USSoccer]

This is a stupid list. Hendry is terrible, but not near Jim Bowden terrible. Dayton Moore shouldn't even be ranked-has he been on the job for a full season yet?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I read at the top that Dayn Perry wrote it, so I knew it would have little validity.

 

While Hendry hasn't done a great job over the last two years, I still would rank him over Coletti, Bowden, and a few others ranked ahead of him. The top of the list is fairly spot on, but I'm not completely sold on the totality of his rankings.

[jyoung55]

 

Whether you think its a fluke or not, I dont know how you judge Hendry without at least mentioning Lee, Barrett and, here's the big one, RAMIREZ.

 

i judge hendry by wins. and in that regard, he's bad.

 

and if you judge him by win per dollar, he's the worst.

 

Fair enough.

[YearofDaCubs]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576

Not sure if Epstein should be that high...

Epstein has been pretty good. Got them a WS ring, and he signed all the available FA's this year that I wanted the Cubs to sign. Hendry is where he deserves. Those bottom tier GMs are pretty bad.

 

I don't know about all that now. Hendry may be bad, but is he worse that Jim Bowden or J.P. Ricciardi? I'd put him somewhere between 15-17 personally.

Hendry is bad, very bad. Any monkey can sign players through FA if they have the available funds to do so, and Soriano didn't come cheap either.

 

Whether you think its a fluke or not, I dont know how you judge Hendry without at least mentioning Lee, Barrett and, here's the big one, RAMIREZ.

I never said Hendry never made a good move. I think those trades were great. But he failed to recognize glaring weaknesses in the past and resolve them. He always seems to overpay for mediocre players and up until recently was hesitant to pay top dollar for FAs although I think that was more MacPhail than him. Leaving Baker out there for another year and letting him finish up the season didn't do us any favors either. I also question his game plan during the off-season's to solidify the team for the upcoming season. IMO, He's done more bad than good and looks to be a bottom tier GM.

[photoguy9883]

ESPN ranked their top five yesterday.

[Derwood]

ESPN ranked their top five yesterday.

 

which is actually a top 7

[Rob]

Both lists are horrible.

 

Perry had Coletti and Bowden above Hendry... I'm no fan of Hendry's anymore, but those two are bottom five GMs... Hendry isn't.

 

ESPN had Gillick and Schuerholz tied... and behind Terry Ryan? Puh-leaze.

[abuck1220]

This is a stupid list. Hendry is terrible, but not near Jim Bowden terrible. Dayton Moore shouldn't even be ranked-has he been on the job for a full season yet?

 

bowden fleeced both the rangers (for soriano...was he the gm then?) and the reds (for lopez and kearns). his team was operating with a significantly lower payroll than the cubs (and playing in a tougher division), and the nats won more games than the cubs.

 

i'd probably rather have hendry than bowden, but it's not unthinkable that someone would rank him ahead of hendry.

 

 

i don't know why hendry gets any kind of credit from anyone. since he's taken over the losses have increased each year (despite an increasing payroll) and the farm system has gone in the toilet. so he traded for ramirez and lee...what's that gotten him?

[Tracer Bullet]

I admit bias, but I don't think Jocketty should be #2. He has benefited from what is a frequently terrible division (3 straight WS appearances notwithstanding). Plus, Tatis and Vina count in his favor?

 

I'd put Ryan 2 and Beane 3.

[CubColtPacer]

This is a stupid list. Hendry is terrible, but not near Jim Bowden terrible. Dayton Moore shouldn't even be ranked-has he been on the job for a full season yet?

 

bowden fleeced both the rangers (for soriano...was he the gm then?) and the reds (for lopez and kearns). his team was operating with a significantly lower payroll than the cubs (and playing in a tougher division), and the nats won more games than the cubs.

 

i'd probably rather have hendry than bowden, but it's not unthinkable that someone would rank him ahead of hendry.

 

 

i don't know why hendry gets any kind of credit from anyone. since he's taken over the losses have increased each year (despite an increasing payroll) and the farm system has gone in the toilet. so he traded for ramirez and lee...what's that gotten him?

 

While I'm going to try to stay out of the reasons for credit/blame for Hendry, the fact that the losses have increased each year under his tenure is just not correct. They increased for 2 years, and then dropped the next 2 years back to the level they were before Hendry. If they increase significantly next year, some of last year can be forgiven (he still didn't build a contending team, but it is possible that the injuries took the team from a .500 team to a terrible team). If the wins don't get the Cubs past the .500 mark this year, then Hendry just becomes someone who got the team to around .500-which is an improvement over the previous regime, but still not good enough to really make a difference.

[Garwilly]

I admit bias, but I don't think Jocketty should be #2. He has benefited from what is a frequently terrible division (3 straight WS appearances notwithstanding). Plus, Tatis and Vina count in his favor?

 

I'd put Ryan 2 and Beane 3.

 

Houston beat Stl in the 2005 NLCS.

 

3 straight NLCS, 2 of 3 WS.

 

Still impressive though.

[goonys evil twin]

If the wins don't get the Cubs past the .500 mark this year, then Hendry just becomes someone who got the team to around .500-which is an improvement over the previous regime, but still not good enough to really make a difference.

 

Hendry became GM in 2002. In the 4 years before that, the team won 310 games. In the 4 seasons after that, they won 322. So, I guess technically that's an improvement, but it's negligible at best.

[YearofDaCubs]

This is a stupid list. Hendry is terrible, but not near Jim Bowden terrible. Dayton Moore shouldn't even be ranked-has he been on the job for a full season yet?

 

bowden fleeced both the rangers (for soriano...was he the gm then?) and the reds (for lopez and kearns). his team was operating with a significantly lower payroll than the cubs (and playing in a tougher division), and the nats won more games than the cubs.

 

i'd probably rather have hendry than bowden, but it's not unthinkable that someone would rank him ahead of hendry.

 

 

i don't know why hendry gets any kind of credit from anyone. since he's taken over the losses have increased each year (despite an increasing payroll) and the farm system has gone in the toilet. so he traded for ramirez and lee...what's that gotten him?

 

While I'm going to try to stay out of the reasons for credit/blame for Hendry, the fact that the losses have increased each year under his tenure is just not correct. They increased for 2 years, and then dropped the next 2 years back to the level they were before Hendry. If they increase significantly next year, some of last year can be forgiven (he still didn't build a contending team, but it is possible that the injuries took the team from a .500 team to a terrible team). If the wins don't get the Cubs past the .500 mark this year, then Hendry just becomes someone who got the team to around .500-which is an improvement over the previous regime, but still not good enough to really make a difference.

Hendry relying on Prior and Wood year after year doesn't help his cause. Now in 2007 he finally realizes he needs more SP? This problem should have been patched up long ago.