Carrie Muskat

[RynoRules]

A guy who is investigating baseball cards on the internet, and sending in questions to the cubs website is not a casual fan.

 

I don't know that I agree on that part. There are plenty of people investigating baseball cards for the profit of turning a buck that couldn't care less about said team or organization.

 

Obviously this guy cares about the Cubs.

 

Maybe, but perhaps he has no clue about any other org. I know plenty of people who know nothing about their fave teams other then the 25 guys on the ML roster and the manager. That was me as a youngster, and yes, I loved and obsessively collected baseball cards at the time. Your argument that b/c he collects cards he must be more than a 'casual fan" is weak.

 

I am constatntly surprised at how much detail many on this bd know about minor league systems. If I ask a question that reveals my ignorance about the Cubs farm system (for example, "Why did Hendry trade Sisco to KC?" (FYI: I know that in fact he was Rule V draftee)), I am an idiot in your book?

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm going to agree with Goony on this. It's a pretty stupid question to ask on an internet Q&A.

 

Supposing Pujols had been a Cub at one point, there's no way on the planet even a casual fan wouldn't have known about it.

 

Assuming the casual fan tunes into national games and the playoffs, and considering the best player on a world series team would have been cast aside by the most "cursed" and inept organization in baseball history, don't you think it would be a staple of newspaper columnists criticisms, laments and jabs? Wouldn't it be a constant theme of sports radio? It's not like Lou Brock for Broglio or anything-Pujols has only been in the league for 6 or so years. The freshness of the stupidity would guarantee a constant chorus of criticism and mocking of the Cubs for bailing on the game's best player.

 

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

 

You're making assumptions on what the person knows. Just because he has internet access doesn't make him knowledgeable about the Cubs or even baseball for that matter. Maybe he thinks it's possible for the Cubs to lose minor league players by some draft? Who knows what he has knowledge of?

 

Was Peoria part of the Cubs system? Yes. Did Pujols play for Peoria? Yes. Why is that such a stupid question for a fan that may not know that much to ask?

[goonys evil twin]

A guy who is investigating baseball cards on the internet, and sending in questions to the cubs website is not a casual fan.

 

I don't know that I agree on that part. There are plenty of people investigating baseball cards for the profit of turning a buck that couldn't care less about said team or organization.

 

Obviously this guy cares about the Cubs.

 

Maybe, but perhaps he has no clue about any other org. I know plenty of people who know nothing about their fave teams other then the 25 guys on the ML roster and the manager. That was me as a youngster, and yes, I loved and obsessively collected baseball cards at the time. Your argument that b/c he collects cards he must be more than a 'casual fan" is weak.

 

That wasn't my argument, so your rebuttal was therefore weak.

 

Here are the facts.

 

He has internet access and knows how to use it. He knows how to get to the Cubs website, find the Q&A section and submit a question. He goes to ebay and searches for, and apparantly examines baseball cards. He knows the Peoria Chiefs are the Cubs single A team.

 

I'm assuming he's not a youngster. If he's 8, I take it back. But his wording makes me believe he's got to be at least older than 18.

 

Therefore, you negate any chance that he's only aware of the 25 man roster. He should clearly know that was a stupid question.

 

I wasn't going to make a big deal out of this until people were aghast that I agreed it was a stupid question.

[CuseCubFan69]

A guy who is investigating baseball cards on the internet, and sending in questions to the cubs website is not a casual fan.

 

I don't know that I agree on that part. There are plenty of people investigating baseball cards for the profit of turning a buck that couldn't care less about said team or organization.

 

Obviously this guy cares about the Cubs.

 

Maybe, but perhaps he has no clue about any other org. I know plenty of people who know nothing about their fave teams other then the 25 guys on the ML roster and the manager. That was me as a youngster, and yes, I loved and obsessively collected baseball cards at the time. Your argument that b/c he collects cards he must be more than a 'casual fan" is weak.

 

That wasn't my argument, so your rebuttal was therefore weak.

 

Here are the facts.

 

He has internet access and knows how to use it. He knows how to get to the Cubs website, find the Q&A section and submit a question. He goes to ebay and searches for, and apparantly examines baseball cards. He knows the Peoria Chiefs are the Cubs single A team.

 

I'm assuming he's not a youngster. If he's 8, I take it back. But his wording makes me believe he's got to be at least older than 18.

 

Therefore, you negate any chance that he's only aware of the 25 man roster. He should clearly know that was a stupid question.

 

I wasn't going to make a big deal out of this until people were aghast that I agreed it was a stupid question.

 

How dare you say I was aghast! As one gentleman to another I demand an apoligy

[USSoccer]

I'm going to agree with Goony on this. It's a pretty stupid question to ask on an internet Q&A.

 

Supposing Pujols had been a Cub at one point, there's no way on the planet even a casual fan wouldn't have known about it.

 

Assuming the casual fan tunes into national games and the playoffs, and considering the best player on a world series team would have been cast aside by the most "cursed" and inept organization in baseball history, don't you think it would be a staple of newspaper columnists criticisms, laments and jabs? Wouldn't it be a constant theme of sports radio? It's not like Lou Brock for Broglio or anything-Pujols has only been in the league for 6 or so years. The freshness of the stupidity would guarantee a constant chorus of criticism and mocking of the Cubs for bailing on the game's best player.

 

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

 

You're making assumptions on what the person knows. Just because he has internet access doesn't make him knowledgeable about the Cubs or even baseball for that matter. Maybe he thinks it's possible for the Cubs to lose minor league players by some draft? Who knows what he has knowledge of?

 

Was Peoria part of the Cubs system? Yes. Did Pujols play for Peoria? Yes. Why is that such a stupid question for a fan that may not know that much to ask?

 

Because it's not as if he's asking if a player of the fame of say...JD Drew, or Vernon Wells was a Cub. He's asking about Albert Pujols. Perennial league MVP candidate. Best player in the NL, and a player who plays for the Cubs' principle rival. He's not an obscure name. He's a name the casual fan should know, and casual fans again would pay attention to media ripping the Cubs for not retaining the best player in the league.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm going to agree with Goony on this. It's a pretty stupid question to ask on an internet Q&A.

 

Supposing Pujols had been a Cub at one point, there's no way on the planet even a casual fan wouldn't have known about it.

 

Assuming the casual fan tunes into national games and the playoffs, and considering the best player on a world series team would have been cast aside by the most "cursed" and inept organization in baseball history, don't you think it would be a staple of newspaper columnists criticisms, laments and jabs? Wouldn't it be a constant theme of sports radio? It's not like Lou Brock for Broglio or anything-Pujols has only been in the league for 6 or so years. The freshness of the stupidity would guarantee a constant chorus of criticism and mocking of the Cubs for bailing on the game's best player.

 

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

 

You're making assumptions on what the person knows. Just because he has internet access doesn't make him knowledgeable about the Cubs or even baseball for that matter. Maybe he thinks it's possible for the Cubs to lose minor league players by some draft? Who knows what he has knowledge of?

 

Was Peoria part of the Cubs system? Yes. Did Pujols play for Peoria? Yes. Why is that such a stupid question for a fan that may not know that much to ask?

 

Because it's not as if he's asking if a player of the fame of say...JD Drew, or Vernon Wells was a Cub. He's asking about Albert Pujols. Perennial league MVP candidate. Best player in the NL, and a player who plays for the Cubs' principle rival. He's not an obscure name. He's a name the casual fan should know, and casual fans again would pay attention to media ripping the Cubs for not retaining the best player in the league.

 

Again you assume what he knows and what he doesn't. Also, how do you know this media ripping of the Cubs would even be in his train of thought?

[USSoccer]

I'm going to agree with Goony on this. It's a pretty stupid question to ask on an internet Q&A.

 

Supposing Pujols had been a Cub at one point, there's no way on the planet even a casual fan wouldn't have known about it.

 

Assuming the casual fan tunes into national games and the playoffs, and considering the best player on a world series team would have been cast aside by the most "cursed" and inept organization in baseball history, don't you think it would be a staple of newspaper columnists criticisms, laments and jabs? Wouldn't it be a constant theme of sports radio? It's not like Lou Brock for Broglio or anything-Pujols has only been in the league for 6 or so years. The freshness of the stupidity would guarantee a constant chorus of criticism and mocking of the Cubs for bailing on the game's best player.

 

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

 

You're making assumptions on what the person knows. Just because he has internet access doesn't make him knowledgeable about the Cubs or even baseball for that matter. Maybe he thinks it's possible for the Cubs to lose minor league players by some draft? Who knows what he has knowledge of?

 

Was Peoria part of the Cubs system? Yes. Did Pujols play for Peoria? Yes. Why is that such a stupid question for a fan that may not know that much to ask?

 

Because it's not as if he's asking if a player of the fame of say...JD Drew, or Vernon Wells was a Cub. He's asking about Albert Pujols. Perennial league MVP candidate. Best player in the NL, and a player who plays for the Cubs' principle rival. He's not an obscure name. He's a name the casual fan should know, and casual fans again would pay attention to media ripping the Cubs for not retaining the best player in the league.

 

Again you assume what he knows and what he doesn't. Also, how do you know this media ripping of the Cubs would even be in his train of thought?

 

Am I seeing a card on Ebay correctly -- did we let another great player go? Did Albert Pujols actually play for the Peoria Chiefs and was he actually signed by the Cubs to a Minor League contract? If so, why did we let him go and how did the Cardinals come about acquiring him?

-- Robert R., Chandler, Ind.

 

First off, he knew enough about Pujols to inquire if the Cubs gave up on him, implying that he knows that Pujols is great, and knew the Cubs are now affiliated with Peoria. He uses the pronoun "we", and the word "another", implying he knows about past players the Cubs let go that turned out to be very good.

 

If you're assuming this person is an adult (which is the basis of the argument), in the time it took him to find the Q&A and submit his question, he could have simply asked himself "If Albert Pujols, who I know is great, and plays for the Cardinals, used to be in the Cubs system, why haven't I heard about the fact that we let ANOTHER prospect get away to St Louis?".

 

Simple critical thinking could have answered his question. Instead, he asked a stupid one to the Cubs' Q&A person.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm going to agree with Goony on this. It's a pretty stupid question to ask on an internet Q&A.

 

Supposing Pujols had been a Cub at one point, there's no way on the planet even a casual fan wouldn't have known about it.

 

Assuming the casual fan tunes into national games and the playoffs, and considering the best player on a world series team would have been cast aside by the most "cursed" and inept organization in baseball history, don't you think it would be a staple of newspaper columnists criticisms, laments and jabs? Wouldn't it be a constant theme of sports radio? It's not like Lou Brock for Broglio or anything-Pujols has only been in the league for 6 or so years. The freshness of the stupidity would guarantee a constant chorus of criticism and mocking of the Cubs for bailing on the game's best player.

 

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

 

You're making assumptions on what the person knows. Just because he has internet access doesn't make him knowledgeable about the Cubs or even baseball for that matter. Maybe he thinks it's possible for the Cubs to lose minor league players by some draft? Who knows what he has knowledge of?

 

Was Peoria part of the Cubs system? Yes. Did Pujols play for Peoria? Yes. Why is that such a stupid question for a fan that may not know that much to ask?

 

Because it's not as if he's asking if a player of the fame of say...JD Drew, or Vernon Wells was a Cub. He's asking about Albert Pujols. Perennial league MVP candidate. Best player in the NL, and a player who plays for the Cubs' principle rival. He's not an obscure name. He's a name the casual fan should know, and casual fans again would pay attention to media ripping the Cubs for not retaining the best player in the league.

 

Again you assume what he knows and what he doesn't. Also, how do you know this media ripping of the Cubs would even be in his train of thought?

 

First off, he knew enough about Pujols to inquire if the Cubs gave up on him, implying that he knows that Pujols is great, and knew the Cubs are now affiliated with Peoria.

 

If you're assuming this person is an adult (which is the basis of the argument), in the time it took him to find the Q&A and submit his question, he could have simply asked himself "If Albert Pujols, who I know is great, and plays for the Cardinals, used to be in the Cubs system, why haven't I heard about the fact that we let ANOTHER prospect get away to St Louis?".

 

Simple critical thinking could have answered his question.

 

Let's say he looks at Pujols stats and sees that he played for Peoria. Then he wonders since the Cubs have ties to them and he writes to Cubs.com that question. What's wrong with that? He went to the source to learn the answer. I suppose it semantics on what you think is a stupid question and what I think is one because I think it's a valid question from a causual or less type fan. What if he asked what the Triple Crown is in baseball? Is that stupid?

[goonys evil twin]

Simple critical thinking could have answered his question. Instead, he asked a stupid one to the Cubs' Q&A person.

 

As stupid as it is, it's also incredibly lazy.

 

It's kind of like the people who would go on to the ESPN message board and ask others to find them stats on a player. That always cracked me up.

[CuseCubFan69]

Simple critical thinking could have answered his question. Instead, he asked a stupid one to the Cubs' Q&A person.

 

As stupid as it is, it's also incredibly lazy.

 

It's kind of like the people who would go on to the ESPN message board and ask others to find them stats on a player. That always cracked me up.

 

I disagree and this could go on forever so I'm done.

 

USS...your wife is a teacher, ask her if it's a stupid question.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm going to agree with Goony on this. It's a pretty stupid question to ask on an internet Q&A.

 

Supposing Pujols had been a Cub at one point, there's no way on the planet even a casual fan wouldn't have known about it.

 

Assuming the casual fan tunes into national games and the playoffs, and considering the best player on a world series team would have been cast aside by the most "cursed" and inept organization in baseball history, don't you think it would be a staple of newspaper columnists criticisms, laments and jabs? Wouldn't it be a constant theme of sports radio? It's not like Lou Brock for Broglio or anything-Pujols has only been in the league for 6 or so years. The freshness of the stupidity would guarantee a constant chorus of criticism and mocking of the Cubs for bailing on the game's best player.

 

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

 

You're making assumptions on what the person knows. Just because he has internet access doesn't make him knowledgeable about the Cubs or even baseball for that matter. Maybe he thinks it's possible for the Cubs to lose minor league players by some draft? Who knows what he has knowledge of?

 

Was Peoria part of the Cubs system? Yes. Did Pujols play for Peoria? Yes. Why is that such a stupid question for a fan that may not know that much to ask?

 

Because it's not as if he's asking if a player of the fame of say...JD Drew, or Vernon Wells was a Cub. He's asking about Albert Pujols. Perennial league MVP candidate. Best player in the NL, and a player who plays for the Cubs' principle rival. He's not an obscure name. He's a name the casual fan should know, and casual fans again would pay attention to media ripping the Cubs for not retaining the best player in the league.

 

Again you assume what he knows and what he doesn't. Also, how do you know this media ripping of the Cubs would even be in his train of thought?

 

Based on his question, I make no assumptions about his knowledge. His lack of knowledge, maybe.

[Mizzou]

It's a stupid, stupid question to ask.

Jeez, isn't that a little freaking harsh?

[soccer10k]

All I know is that this ensuing argument about this question is far and away dumber than the question may or may not be.

 

EDIT: Spelling.

Edited January 27, 2007 by soccer10k

[BigbadB]

All I know is that this ensuing argument about this question is far and way dumber than the question may or may not be.

 

I don't agree with you on much, but I think I'll have to agree with you here. :P

[A New Era]

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. And Carrie Muskat is full of em.

[abuck1220]

how is this even a debate? it's the dumbest question i've ever seen posed to an internet Q&A. hands down.

 

and it's not just the (idiotic) content of the question...it's his, "oh boy, here we go again...the dumb-dumb cubs...i can't believe they albert pujols go...they are always doing stupid stuff like that!" attitude. as if he's saying that if only he were in charge, he'd have NEVER let this happen.

 

guy is a huge moron, and he deserves to be mocked.