Official - Randy Johnson traded to the D'Backs

[nilodnayr]

Now that Zito is off the mkt, could the Rangers be suitors here?

 

I think they can put up a similar package to what the Yanks asked the Dbacks for...Otsuka and one of Hurley and Diamond and one of Loe, Volquez, or Rheinecker.

[CheeseHead Cubs Fan]

Interesting....

The New York Daily News says the Yankees and Diamondbacks could complete a Randy Johnson deal before next week.

Once a deal is agreed to, the Diamondbacks will want to discuss a one-year extension with Johnson, and if they don't like what they hear then, the trade could still fall apart. The Yankees are asking for two members from a group of pitching prospects that includes Dustin Nippert, Micah Owings and Ross Ohlendorf. The report doesn't say anything about them getting one of the Diamondbacks' relievers, such as Luis Vizcaino or Brandon Medders.

 

rotoworld.com

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to the Star-Ledger, a deal sending the Unit to Arizona could be close.

 

A baseball official who spoke with one of the teams involved yesterday said a trade that would send Johnson from the Yankees back to the Arizona Diamondbacks was nearing its completion. While several complicated details remained to be worked out -- mostly involving deferred money owed to Johnson by the Diamondbacks -- the official said those issues could be worked out by today and a deal could be done soon.

 

Link.

 

The Yankees are seeking three young pitchers from Arizona, with much of their focus on right-handed reliever Brandon Medders, whom they think could help their 2007 bullpen. But once the teams agree on players to be exchanged, the Diamondbacks and Johnson would want to open a 72-hour negotiating window during which they could work out financial issues and, most likely, a contract extension

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I think if they come away with Nippert and Ownings the Yankees might have something there.

 

Nippert has good control, a good fastball, a good hard curveball, and he's close to ready.

 

Ownings could be a nice reliever.

[CheeseHead Cubs Fan]

Done deal according to WFAN. Two prospects = Johnson back to AZ.

[nilodnayr]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

[abuck1220]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

[Backtobanks]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

Let's hope they don't get that chance because the Cubs have signed him to an extension.

[nilodnayr]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

I dont think many would disagree, but that still doesnt mean they have to trade Johnson.

[nilodnayr]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

I dont think many would disagree, but that still doesnt mean they have to trade Johnson.

[NCCubFan]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

I dont think many would disagree, but that still doesnt mean they have to trade Johnson.

You can say that again (oh, wait; you DID say that again). :D

[BigbadB]

I think if they come away with Nippert and Ownings the Yankees might have something there.

 

Nippert has good control, a good fastball, a good hard curveball, and he's close to ready.

 

Ownings could be a nice reliever.

 

Not to be too nitpicky, but I believe it's Owings.

[nilodnayr]

I think if they come away with Nippert and Ownings the Yankees might have something there.

 

Nippert has good control, a good fastball, a good hard curveball, and he's close to ready.

 

Ownings could be a nice reliever.

 

Not to be too nitpicky, but I believe it's Owings.

 

Ownings is his message board handle. If he were really cool it'd be Pwnings.

[nilodnayr]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

I dont think many would disagree, but that still doesnt mean they have to trade Johnson.

You can say that again (oh, wait; you DID say that again). :D

 

:D

 

Rumor has it that the Yanks believe they can lure Clemens for a full year and in order to do so had to get rid of Johnson since they are not the best of friends. And that they are stockpiling prospects for a Santana/Willis trade. Although, I think they have quite a ways to go unless they are going to give up hughes on that front. Both teams are going to want quality over quantity. And right now other than Hughes thats Tabata and Duncan and thats it. Owings and Nippert would help, but they probably still need to get more. But at least Cashman has a plan here.

[Backtobanks]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

I dont think many would disagree, but that still doesnt mean they have to trade Johnson.

You can say that again (oh, wait; you DID say that again). :D

 

:D

 

Rumor has it that the Yanks believe they can lure Clemens for a full year and in order to do so had to get rid of Johnson since they are not the best of friends. And that they are stockpiling prospects for a Santana/Willis trade. Although, I think they have quite a ways to go unless they are going to give up hughes on that front. Both teams are going to want quality over quantity. And right now other than Hughes thats Tabata and Duncan and thats it. Owings and Nippert would help, but they probably still need to get more. But at least Cashman has a plan here.

 

Willis maybe, but no way they could get Santana.

[RynoRules]

I don't get why AZ wanted to do this.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Yanks lose out on the big three and then deal The Unit...genius.

 

i'd take zambrano over any of those three, and that's probably what the yankees are thinking too.

 

I dont think many would disagree, but that still doesnt mean they have to trade Johnson.

You can say that again (oh, wait; you DID say that again). :D

 

:D

 

Rumor has it that the Yanks believe they can lure Clemens for a full year and in order to do so had to get rid of Johnson since they are not the best of friends. And that they are stockpiling prospects for a Santana/Willis trade. Although, I think they have quite a ways to go unless they are going to give up hughes on that front. Both teams are going to want quality over quantity. And right now other than Hughes thats Tabata and Duncan and thats it. Owings and Nippert would help, but they probably still need to get more. But at least Cashman has a plan here.

 

Willis maybe, but no way they could get Santana.

 

Don't say that. I package starting with Hughes/Tabata and includes Duncan/Sanchez (the kid they got from Detroit) could be enough to get the Twins at least interested. But I'm sure Minny is going to want to get Santana signed to a new contract, because, if I am not mistaken, the Twins are getting a new stadium, and I'm sure they want Santana/Mauer/Morneau to be the foundation of the team.

[Outshined_One]

Santana got a four year extension back before the 2005 season. He won't be a FA for another two years at the minimum.

 

I could understand if he were going to be a FA next offseason or something...but his deal is incredibly cheap for his production (his extension was 4/40) and he's entering his prime years. I don't think the Yankees have the ammunition to get him, even if the deal was Hughes/Tabata/Sanchez. It'd take some unholy combination of prospects and young players that I think maybe a select few teams have to pry Santana away from the Twins.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Santana got a four year extension back before the 2005 season. He won't be a FA for another two years at the minimum.

 

I could understand if he were going to be a FA next offseason or something...but his deal is incredibly cheap for his production (his extension was 4/40) and he's entering his prime years. I don't think the Yankees have the ammunition to get him, even if the deal was Hughes/Tabata/Sanchez. It'd take some unholy combination of prospects and young players that I think maybe a select few teams have to pry Santana away from the Twins.

 

Look I don't want Santana to go to NY, and I would prefer to see Santana spend his career with the Twins (or the Cubs), but unless they can get him signed to a long-term contract after 2007 season/pre 2008 season, I think you have to atleast consider the option. Personally, I believe the Dodgers/Angels have better shots of landing Santana then the Yankees. With that said, the Twins don't have to considering moving Santana for another year and a half. So the possibility of the Yankees grabbing him is moot, seeing as Steinbrenner doesn't have patient, and would rather go go after Willis now, instead of Santana later (ie settling for Mondesi a few yrs back, instead of being able to get Cliff Floyd).

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to the NY Daily News, trade discussions are being held up over discussions for an extension.

 

Link.

 

The Yankees' possible trade of Randy Johnson to the Diamondbacks, a deal that appeared to be gaining steam toward the end of last week, has slowed over the structuring of a potential contract extension for Johnson, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations.

 

As part of an agreement for waiving his no-trade clause, Johnson is looking for an extension, but the Diamondbacks, who already owe Johnson about $40 million in deferred money, apparently are looking for a way to factor some of that cash into the extension, the source said. Arizona also is trying to convince the Yankees to kick in some of Johnson's $16 million salary for next season.

[CuseCubFan69]

I don't get why AZ wanted to do this.

 

Me either.

 

I wonder if it would be better for Johnsons career to be a closer instead?

[nilodnayr]

My thoughts...the whole stockpiling talent for Santana/Willis thing isn't for this offseason, its for next offseason. And depending on what happens this year, I really think the Yanks are not going to trade Hughes. Which means, they still don't have enough for Santana. They could probably get Willis though, for what they have now. Tabata's stock could go way up this year.

[nilodnayr]

I think he'll stay with the Yankees simply because they won't get enough in return. I guess thats the consequence they face after getting him... but whats the consequence? I dont understand why they even want him gone. He's had 2 straight 17-win seasons with the Yankees.. Totalling 34 wins and 18 losses. He's also eaten up 200 innings each year despite his high ERA in 2006.

 

His 2006 season netted him 17 wins because he had hands-down the best offense in the game behind him.

 

As of now, they're rotation consists of Mussina, Pettitte, Wang, Johnson, and Pavano. It's a strong 1-3, but if they could net a decent #4 pitcher who isn't facing the injury risks and performance decline Johnson is, or if they feel that Jeff Karstens is ready to start full-time, all while getting rid of his $15M+ contract, it's a no-brainer on their part.

 

IF Johnson is healthy theres a very very good chance he will be the #1 pitcher in that rotation.

 

Nate Silver agrees.

 

Thats why AZ would do this. Plus he might help revenue, just a bit. And if AZ gets into the playoffs Webb and RJ would be tough to beat.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

It also appears the Yankees could be pushing hard for Clemens, but there desire is for a full season of Clemens.

[nilodnayr]

It also appears the Yankees could be pushing hard for Clemens, but there desire is for a full season of Clemens.

 

See my post on page 2 :)