Dodgers sign Schmidt (EDIT: Or they might not have)

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baseball prospectus meh projection-

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=55

 

Yeah, if he puts up a 4.13 ERA next year, I won't feel so bad about missing out.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

On 590 Schmidt's agent said they will meet with the Cardinals one more time.

Uhm....HUh?!?!

 

I thought it was official.

 

Wioshful thinking on the Cards part?

 

 

Maybe.

 

I'm just reporting what's on the radio. I thought you guys might find it interesting, maybe the Cubs still have a shot to.

[Deeg]

I told you my sources on this story were good, but y'all had to be cynics...

[tkenm356]

On 590 Schmidt's agent said they will meet with the Cardinals one more time.

 

Really doubt Schmidt would be telling his Giant' teammates that he's signing with the Dodgers if he still had a meeting planned with the Cards.

 

MLB.com[/url]"]The Dodgers apparently are on the verge of acquiring the power pitcher they've coveted, as free-agent right-hander Jason Schmidt on Wednesday told former Giants teammates he accepted a three-year, $47 million offer to pitch in Los Angeles.

 

What I want to know is, who is the snitch of an ex-teammate working as a rumor source for reporters? I just imagine him calling up Mike Matheny and being like

 

Jason: I'm going ot the Dodgers

Mike: Good job, good for you.

*hangs up, Matheny dials Ken Rosenthall*

Mike: Jason Schmidt signs with Dodgers, make up a number

Ken: The eagle flies at midnight!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Haha, I dont know about anyone else but the headline on Foxsports.com

" Schimdt Happens " I thought that was pretty funny and clever

 

That is (was?) a pretty popular slogan on t-shirts for Giants fans.

[kujay]

Not to beat this horse dead, but the following is from Bernie Miklasz:

 

Talked to one of the Cardinals' higher-ups just now...

 

DeWitt and Jocketty have been told that there's no deal yet -- and that they (Schmidt and his agents) would like to still have discussions.... so as far as the Cardinals are concerned, there's still reason to have discussion with Schmidt's agents... and I am told the Cardinals are making a "strong" offer.

 

---B

 

Interesting.

[TruffleShuffle]

Not to beat this horse dead, but the following is from Bernie Miklasz:

 

Talked to one of the Cardinals' higher-ups just now...

 

DeWitt and Jocketty have been told that there's no deal yet -- and that they (Schmidt and his agents) would like to still have discussions.... so as far as the Cardinals are concerned, there's still reason to have discussion with Schmidt's agents... and I am told the Cardinals are making a "strong" offer.

 

---B

 

Interesting.

 

A strong deal will have to be something like 4/$70M.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Not to beat this horse dead, but the following is from Bernie Miklasz:

 

Talked to one of the Cardinals' higher-ups just now...

 

DeWitt and Jocketty have been told that there's no deal yet -- and that they (Schmidt and his agents) would like to still have discussions.... so as far as the Cardinals are concerned, there's still reason to have discussion with Schmidt's agents... and I am told the Cardinals are making a "strong" offer.

 

---B

 

Interesting.

 

A strong deal will have to be something like 4/$70M.

 

 

There's a chance but I think Schmidt is just angling to get a few more dollars out of L.A.

 

BTW, Bernie is a very credible source.

 

We shall see.

Edited December 6, 2006 by CardsFanInChiTown

[kujay]

Like I said before, Hendry cannot let this happen.

 

If there's nothing he can do about it, and Schmidt is drinking the red kool-aid, I guess that's fine.

 

But if it's all about the benjis, Hendry better show him enough to get it done.

[TruffleShuffle]

Like I said before, Hendry cannot let this happen.

 

If there's nothing he can do about it, and Schmidt is drinking the red kool-aid, I guess that's fine.

 

But if it's all about the benjis, Hendry better show him enough to get it done.

 

Being as Schmidt wants to stay out west and has a deal that would give him $16M per over the next 3 years, he's going to need to be blown away. 4/$70M would probably do that - but I don't want the Cubs to invest that sort of money in him, really.

[kujay]

Like I said before, Hendry cannot let this happen.

 

If there's nothing he can do about it, and Schmidt is drinking the red kool-aid, I guess that's fine.

 

But if it's all about the benjis, Hendry better show him enough to get it done.

 

Being as Schmidt wants to stay out west and has a deal that would give him $16M per over the next 3 years, he's going to need to be blown away. 4/$70M would probably do that - but I don't want the Cubs to invest that sort of money in him, really.

 

I know, and I see that my reaction is a kneejerk one, but I think it's worth a few extra million to keep him away from St. Louis.

[TruffleShuffle]

Like I said before, Hendry cannot let this happen.

 

If there's nothing he can do about it, and Schmidt is drinking the red kool-aid, I guess that's fine.

 

But if it's all about the benjis, Hendry better show him enough to get it done.

 

Being as Schmidt wants to stay out west and has a deal that would give him $16M per over the next 3 years, he's going to need to be blown away. 4/$70M would probably do that - but I don't want the Cubs to invest that sort of money in him, really.

 

I know, and I see that my reaction is a kneejerk one, but I think it's worth a few extra million to keep him away from St. Louis.

 

Then we give him 4/$74M and make Jason Freakin Schmidt the highest paid pitcher in baseball. That'd make sense if he were that good. He's hardly even a #1 any more, and might not even be a #2 by the time his contract is up.

 

Please, Cardinals, give him 4/$70M. I'd be thrilled.

[killthegoat06]

Rotoworld

 

Although Jason Schmidt said earlier that a deal had been agreed to, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti refused to confirm that his team had signed the right-hander to a three-year, $47 million contract.

 

Besides the physical, there's apparently still a few details to be worked out. As a result, Schmidt is no longer commenting on the agreement. The soon-to-be 34-year-old Schmidt picked the Dodgers over the Cardinals and Mariners.

[cubs121]

Rotoworld

 

Although Jason Schmidt said earlier that a deal had been agreed to, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti refused to confirm that his team had signed the right-hander to a three-year, $47 million contract.

 

Besides the physical, there's apparently still a few details to be worked out. As a result, Schmidt is no longer commenting on the agreement. The soon-to-be 34-year-old Schmidt picked the Dodgers over the Cardinals and Mariners.

so what does this mean?

[killthegoat06]

Rotoworld

 

Although Jason Schmidt said earlier that a deal had been agreed to, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti refused to confirm that his team had signed the right-hander to a three-year, $47 million contract.

 

Besides the physical, there's apparently still a few details to be worked out. As a result, Schmidt is no longer commenting on the agreement. The soon-to-be 34-year-old Schmidt picked the Dodgers over the Cardinals and Mariners.

so what does this mean?

 

Probably that Schmidt is committed to the Dodgers but a contract hasn't actually been signed.

[E.J.]

This is from Rosenthal from 34 minutes ago:

 

Ken Rosenthal[/url]"]Don't look now, but the World Series champion Cardinals could lose free-agent right-handers Jeff Suppan and Jeff Weaver and make their rotation even stronger.

 

The Cardinals are making a strong run at free-agent right-hander Jason Schmidt while continuing to express interest in other free-agent pitchers, according to major-league sources.

[KingCubsFan]

This is from Rosenthal from 34 minutes ago:

 

Ken Rosenthal[/url]"]Don't look now, but the World Series champion Cardinals could lose free-agent right-handers Jeff Suppan and Jeff Weaver and make their rotation even stronger.

 

The Cardinals are making a strong run at free-agent right-hander Jason Schmidt while continuing to express interest in other free-agent pitchers, according to major-league sources.

And this: http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=424640&sid=dc75bbd6b45a4f3390ddc9c4d8943239

[E.J.]

This is from Rosenthal from 34 minutes ago:

 

Ken Rosenthal[/url]"]Don't look now, but the World Series champion Cardinals could lose free-agent right-handers Jeff Suppan and Jeff Weaver and make their rotation even stronger.

 

The Cardinals are making a strong run at free-agent right-hander Jason Schmidt while continuing to express interest in other free-agent pitchers, according to major-league sources.

And this: http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=424640&sid=dc75bbd6b45a4f3390ddc9c4d8943239

 

12 minutes later, and apparently Rosenthal has changed his mind. :lol:

 

Ken Rosenthal[/url]"]The Dodgers have landed the biggest free-agent pitching prize to date, reaching a preliminary agreement on a three-year, $47 million contract with right-hander Jason Schmidt, FOXSports.com has learned.

 

Schmidt, 33, chose the Dodgers over the Cardinals and Mariners, both of whom were seeking to add him to the top of their rotation.

[wekse]

this is fuggin' ridiculous...wake me up when this jerk decides what he's gonna do, hah.

[Mizzou]

3 years/$47 million? Not a bad contract. :(

Not to bring something up that I'm sure has been beat to death in the last 10 pages, but... seriously? Nearly 16M per year for Jason Schmidt isn't bad to you? That's awful in my eyes, especially when you look at the deal that Chris Carpenter just signed.

[goonys evil twin]

3 years/$47 million? Not a bad contract. :(

Not to bring something up that I'm sure has been beat to death in the last 10 pages, but... seriously? Nearly 16M per year for Jason Schmidt isn't bad to you? That's awful in my eyes, especially when you look at the deal that Chris Carpenter just signed.

 

Chris Carpenter was under team control for the next two years at a pretty low price, so he didn't have much room to ask for more.

[Drew Doughty]

3 years/$47 million? Not a bad contract. :(

Not to bring something up that I'm sure has been beat to death in the last 10 pages, but... seriously? Nearly 16M per year for Jason Schmidt isn't bad to you? That's awful in my eyes, especially when you look at the deal that Chris Carpenter just signed.

 

Carpenter signed like...3/57 didn't he? All his new deal did was guarantee 2008. The money for the first two years didn't change.

 

Three years for Schmidt is the right amount of years, and one/two less than he was expected to sign for. It's a good deal.

[Mizzou]

3 years/$47 million? Not a bad contract. :(

Not to bring something up that I'm sure has been beat to death in the last 10 pages, but... seriously? Nearly 16M per year for Jason Schmidt isn't bad to you? That's awful in my eyes, especially when you look at the deal that Chris Carpenter just signed.

 

Chris Carpenter was under team control for the next two years at a pretty low price, so he didn't have much room to ask for more.

Still though, Chris Carpenter is going to make 13M for the next 5 years while Jason Schmidt is going to make 16M. Schmidt's contract is in no way a good one, not for the Dodgers that is.

[Drew Doughty]

3 years/$47 million? Not a bad contract. :(

Not to bring something up that I'm sure has been beat to death in the last 10 pages, but... seriously? Nearly 16M per year for Jason Schmidt isn't bad to you? That's awful in my eyes, especially when you look at the deal that Chris Carpenter just signed.

 

Chris Carpenter was under team control for the next two years at a pretty low price, so he didn't have much room to ask for more.

Still though, Chris Carpenter is going to make 13M for the next 5 years while Jason Schmidt is going to make 16M. Schmidt's contract is in no way a good one, not for the Dodgers that is.

 

It's really a 4/61 deal (not 3/57, don't know where I pulled that number from) I think. That's what I read yesterday and again just now.

[Mizzou]

3 years/$47 million? Not a bad contract. :(

Not to bring something up that I'm sure has been beat to death in the last 10 pages, but... seriously? Nearly 16M per year for Jason Schmidt isn't bad to you? That's awful in my eyes, especially when you look at the deal that Chris Carpenter just signed.

 

Chris Carpenter was under team control for the next two years at a pretty low price, so he didn't have much room to ask for more.

Still though, Chris Carpenter is going to make 13M for the next 5 years while Jason Schmidt is going to make 16M. Schmidt's contract is in no way a good one, not for the Dodgers that is.

 

It's really a 4/61 deal (not 3/57, don't know where I pulled that number from)

Even if you look at it that way, it just helps to prove my point that the Dodgers overpaid bigtime.