Its Bowl Season...

[soccer10k]

Of the eligible at large teams, after Boise St, Michigan, and LSU, ND was the most deserving of a BCS bowl.

 

Go ahead and say that UW/Auburn/whoever else you want to was more deserving but they're ineligible because of the rule.

[jjgman21]

I'll call it. Florida will beat Ohio State.

 

if they don't, this post is buried in the morass of electronic dribble drabble. if they do, you pull it back up and thump your chest.

 

you gonna make your case over the next four weeks?

[Andy]

But if as you guys say LSU clobbers ND and Wisconsin and Auburn handle their business, you can absolutely trash the Irish being in there. Lord knows they'd deserve it.

 

I REALLY want to win a bowl game and beat a top 25 team. Because I'm sick to death of both those stats.

[jjgman21]

Orange Bowl has Louisville vs Wake Forest. Once again, no surprise.

 

this bites as that matchup will do nothing to settle the long debate. Wake blows.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

That idiotic rule better be gone before next season.

[TruffleShuffle]

Orange Bowl has Louisville vs Wake Forest. Once again, no surprise.

 

this bites as that matchup will do nothing to settle the long debate. Wake blows.

 

ratings for this game are going to be terrible. Nobody cares much about either of these clubs. At least Rutgers would've gotten some people to watch since they're a national feel-good story.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

[Andy]

That idiotic rule better be gone before next season.

I agree. I want there to be no doubt from now on when ND makes the BCS. Otherwise every time a 10-2 ND gets in over other teams this same crap will go on.

[Andy]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

[TruffleShuffle]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

 

hate to say it, but I have to agree with you on this one. ND didn't lose to an average team like the other two did.

[soccer10k]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

 

A one loss Rutgers or WVU? Maybe. But not with two losses. WVU's loss to South Florida screwed them.

[Andy]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

 

A one loss Rutgers or WVU? Maybe. But not with two losses. WVU's loss to South Florida screwed them.

That WVU-Rutgers game helped. If Rutgers had won, this board would have melted down with all the people yelping for Louisville with 1 loss as an at-large, and I hate to say it but they'd have been right. The way it went down ensured that neither of WVU or Rutgers could be reasonably argued for.

[soccer10k]

Orange Bowl has Louisville vs Wake Forest. Once again, no surprise.

 

this bites as that matchup will do nothing to settle the long debate. Wake blows.

 

Not to mention the fact that WVU is stuck playing Georgia Tech and Rutgers has to play Kansas State. I wish either Louisville or WVU got to play a Pac 10/Big 10/SEC team. But no.

 

At least we get an Arkansas-Wisconsin matchup though.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

 

Both teams actually beat a good team(Top 15), and I'm not so sure the schedules are that different, that's what I'd have to look into. Not to say that this would say that WVU or Rutgers got shafted, but simply that they were just as good an option.

[soccer10k]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

 

A one loss Rutgers or WVU? Maybe. But not with two losses. WVU's loss to South Florida screwed them.

That WVU-Rutgers game helped. If Rutgers had won, this board would have melted down with all the people yelping for Louisville with 1 loss as an at-large, and I hate to say it but they'd have been right. The way it went down ensured that neither of WVU or Rutgers could be reasonably argued for.

 

I was torn for that game. I wanted 2 Big East teams and the only way that had the potential to happen would be if Rutgers won. But I had no faith in the bowls picking Louisville over Notre Dame. WVU losing to South Florida killed any hope of 2 Big East teams. If they finish with one loss I think they would have been picked as an at large because of how highly they were rated at the beginning of the year.

[jjgman21]

I said earlier that all five of the top bowls behind the Nat Champ would be more compelling. I take it back.

 

 

the best football game to watch this year will be the Cap One bowl

 

all the other games will be blowouts. what a shame. the matchups even amongst the teams picked for the BCS could have been arranged so much better to create more compelling games.

 

doesn't this sound alot more entertaining

 

OSU v. UM

Florida v. Louisville

Boise v. Wake

LSU v. USC

Oklahoma v. ND

 

but no, they had to blow it all up due to the 'I don't want to see a rematched even though I've seen multiple rematches before and played it up as a good thing' sentiment.

[Mark_R]

I said earlier that all five of the top bowls behind the Nat Champ would be more compelling. I take it back.

 

 

the best football game to watch this year will be the Cap One bowl

 

all the other games will be blowouts. what a shame. the matchups even amongst the teams picked for the BCS could have been arranged so much better to create more compelling games.

 

doesn't this sound alot more entertaining

 

OSU v. UM

Florida v. Louisville

Boise v. Wake

LSU v. USC

Oklahoma v. ND

 

but no, they had to blow it all up due to the 'I don't want to see a rematched even though I've seen multiple rematches before and played it up as a good thing' sentiment.

 

Do you even realize that the bowls pick the teams they want in a certain order or does that fact escape you?

 

Your utopia scheduling is totally unrealistic.

[CubColtPacer]

I don't have the motivation to do it right now, but after a cursory look I think a reasonable argument could be constructed that WVU or Rutgers deserve the at-large over Notre Dame.

NO, NO, and NO.

 

Rutgers clobbered by Cincy. Out.

WVU lost at home to South Florida. Out.

 

Both teams played schedules ridiculously easier than ND's. Out.

 

Both teams actually beat a good team(Top 15), and I'm not so sure the schedules are that different, that's what I'd have to look into. Not to say that this would say that WVU or Rutgers got shafted, but simply that they were just as good an option.

 

Rutgers was ineligible anyway-they were outside the top 14, which means they couldn't be picked even if the bowls wanted them.

 

WV had an ok case (they beat Maryland non-conference plus their conference wins, but I think ND's schedule still stacks up favorably) while Rutgers would have no case, as they would only be looking at their conference wins, because their best non-conference wins were Illinois and Navy.

[jjgman21]

I said earlier that all five of the top bowls behind the Nat Champ would be more compelling. I take it back.

 

 

the best football game to watch this year will be the Cap One bowl

 

all the other games will be blowouts. what a shame. the matchups even amongst the teams picked for the BCS could have been arranged so much better to create more compelling games.

 

doesn't this sound alot more entertaining

 

OSU v. UM

Florida v. Louisville

Boise v. Wake

LSU v. USC

Oklahoma v. ND

 

but no, they had to blow it all up due to the 'I don't want to see a rematched even though I've seen multiple rematches before and played it up as a good thing' sentiment.

 

Do you even realize that the bowls pick the teams they want in a certain order or does that fact escape you?

 

Your utopia scheduling is totally unrealistic.

 

well I should have condemned both the sentiment and the system in general in my post, but I think your tone is way out of line regardless of my omission. I was merely pointing out that the bowl games in general will suck. I think that's pretty hard to argue with.

[Mark_R]

well I should have condemned both the sentiment and the system in general in my post, but I think your tone is way out of line regardless of my omission. I was merely pointing out that the bowl games in general will suck. I think that's pretty hard to argue with.

 

I just hate seeing hypotheticals that have zero chance of happening. Let me say this, yours would be more entertaining to see.

 

I agree it would be nice if we could get good games all the way across the board and have the best teams (1-10) playing each other according 1-2, 3-4, you get the picture. That would be awesome. Sadly, its not possible as of now. This year's bland Fiesta and Orange Bowl are why we need a playoff. Two incredibly uninteresting games with some very uninteresting and unexciting teams (cept Louisville)

[tadowdaddy]

Christ.. now we have to play Rutgers.. Come on Big 12.. UGH!

[TruffleShuffle]

OK well we've spent lots of time talking about the 5 BCS bowls - here are what I think are the 5 best non-BCS bowls, along with the 5 worst, and the 5 biggest mismatches (IMO):

 

5 Best

1. Wisconsin vs Arkansas - Capitol One Bowl

2. Nebraska vs Auburn - Cotton Bowl

3. Tennessee vs Penn State - Outback Bowl

4. Oregon vs BYU - Las Vegas Bowl

5. Texas vs Iowa - Alamo Bowl

 

 

5 Worst

1. Troy vs Rice - New Orleans Bowl

2. Central Michigan vs Middle Tennessee - Motor City Bowl

3. East Carolina vs South Florida - Papjohns.com (???) Bowl

4. Western Michigan vs Cincinnati - International Bowl

5. Oklahoma State vs Alabama - Independence Bowl

 

 

5 Biggest Mismatches

1. Rutgers vs Kansas State - Texas Bowl

2. TCU vs Northern Illinois - San Diego ... Poinsettia Bowl

3. Arizona State vs Hawai'i - Hawai'i Bowl

4. LSU vs Notre Dame - Sugar Bowl

5. Boston College vs Navy - Meineke Car Care Bowl

[CubColtPacer]

OK well we've spent lots of time talking about the 5 BCS bowls - here are what I think are the 5 best non-BCS bowls, along with the 5 worst, and the 5 biggest mismatches (IMO):

 

5 Best

1. Wisconsin vs Arkansas - Capitol One Bowl

2. Nebraska vs Auburn - Cotton Bowl

3. Tennessee vs Penn State - Outback Bowl

4. Oregon vs BYU - Las Vegas Bowl

5. Texas vs Iowa - Alamo Bowl

 

 

5 Worst

1. Troy vs Rice - New Orleans Bowl

2. Central Michigan vs Middle Tennessee - Motor City Bowl

3. East Carolina vs South Florida - Papjohns.com (???) Bowl

4. Western Michigan vs Cincinnati - International Bowl

5. Oklahoma State vs Alabama - Independence Bowl

 

 

5 Biggest Mismatches

1. Rutgers vs Kansas State - Texas Bowl

2. TCU vs Northern Illinois - San Diego ... Poinsettia Bowl

3. Arizona State vs Hawai'i - Hawai'i Bowl

4. LSU vs Notre Dame - Sugar Bowl

5. Boston College vs Navy - Meineke Car Care Bowl

 

Hey-you said yourself that they were all supposed to be non-BCS bowls-you had to slip one in there, didn't you :D

[TruffleShuffle]

Hey-you said yourself that they were all supposed to be non-BCS bowls-you had to slip one in there, didn't you :D

 

Well, I was ignoring the no-BCS Bowl rule for the mismatches... but I guess if you want to replace it, you could put in Penn State-Tennessee in the Outback Bowl, or Texas vs Iowa in the Alamo Bowl.

[Andy]

I'd put FSU-UCLA in the mismatch category given the Bruins' last game and given FSU's 6-6 record with no good wins on their resume.

 

And I've seen Western play. WMU/Cincy is absolutely a tremendous mismatch. The Broncos are gooood.