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I'd love the contract if it were 3-4 years. 8 years is crazy

 

I think that's what it took to get him to sign, you have to go the extra yard if you want the big signing IMO.

 

Exactly.

 

I'd like to see how this deal is structured. I wonder if we still have the money to get drew? If not, then maybe we trade for ManRam?

 

I want to see it too. I admit this is kind of exciting because I can't remember the Cubs ever signing one the top 3 free agents since I've been a fan. I really wish it were Vlad or Beltran from the previous years but what the heck.

Hasn't happened since Andre Dawson.

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You know, some people will never be happy. If we go through the offseason and lose Soriano and Drew to other teams people would have whined and moaned about how Hendry never gets the top tier free agents. Now for once the guy went out shopping against half the teams in the majors who want this guy and finally gets the guy. So everyone whines and moans about how its to much for to long. Well sorry people but you cant have it both ways, this was probably the only way we were going to get Soriano. Hendry's rear end is over the fire and he's going all out ti try to win before he loses his job. Im not angry at the guy for finally being determined to get his target. Am I happy about an 8 year contract? No. Thats the only way we were going to get this bat into our lineup though so for that Im grateful. 4 years down the road Im sure we'll all be mad about how Soriano's contract is eating away at our budget. For now though I'll relish that we actually got the big name free agent and I'll enjoy his production in the lineup for as long as it last.

Co-sign. Too many people expect Hendry to sign people like Soriano to 4 year deals, and trade crap like Roberto Novoa for something worthwhile.

 

Would you be happy with signing Michael Barrett to a 7/100 extension? Of course not, because that would be a heinous overpayment to someone who is a good, but not spectacular offensive player and a below average defender. Soriano is the exact same thing, except we gave him the contract.

 

The Barrett analogy is missing something, though. On the market, Barrett doesn't have that kind of value; Soriano, we can only believe at this point, does. While the production is similar, the Value is not, for better or worse.

 

It's fun to talk about what we are paying for production, but it's not that simple. We did what we had to do to get "another Barrett," not what made "sense" by regular logic.

 

Except that we way overpaid for that "other Barrett", when there were others out there that were as good or better, and cheaper too.

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I'd love the contract if it were 3-4 years. 8 years is crazy

 

I think that's what it took to get him to sign, you have to go the extra yard if you want the big signing IMO.

 

Exactly.

 

I'd like to see how this deal is structured. I wonder if we still have the money to get drew? If not, then maybe we trade for ManRam?

 

I want to see it too. I admit this is kind of exciting because I can't remember the Cubs ever signing one the top 3 free agents since I've been a fan. I really wish it were Vlad or Beltran from the previous years but what the heck.

Hasn't happened since Andre Dawson.

 

Andre was a gift but you're right he was a big signing.

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More Rotoworld:

 

ESPN Radio 1000 is reporting that the Cubs and Alfonso Soriano have agreed to an eight-year, $136 million contract.

That's $17 million per year for eight years. So, it's Carlos Beltran's deal plus a year. Beltran, though, was three years younger and a clearly superior player when he received his contract. If the Cubs knew in advance they were going to spend all this money this winter, it would have made sense to bring in a better general manager first.

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More Rotoworld:

 

ESPN Radio 1000 is reporting that the Cubs and Alfonso Soriano have agreed to an eight-year, $136 million contract.

That's $17 million per year for eight years. So, it's Carlos Beltran's deal plus a year. Beltran, though, was three years younger and a clearly superior player when he received his contract. If the Cubs knew in advance they were going to spend all this money this winter, it would have made sense to bring in a better general manager first.

 

That wasn't a nice thing to say. True perhaps but not nice.

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According to a thread at BCB Dave Kaplan on WGN radio is reporting the deal as $90 million, no mention of years. That makes more sense.

 

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2006/11/19/151938/84

 

starting to feel better...regaining optimism.

 

I'd love that...

 

But espn already announced it at 8/136...I bet Kaplan is wrong.

 

I'm hoping Kaplan has the guaranteed years value - 5 yrs with 3 option years brings you close to 135 @ 18mill per year

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More Rotoworld:

 

ESPN Radio 1000 is reporting that the Cubs and Alfonso Soriano have agreed to an eight-year, $136 million contract.

That's $17 million per year for eight years. So, it's Carlos Beltran's deal plus a year. Beltran, though, was three years younger and a clearly superior player when he received his contract. If the Cubs knew in advance they were going to spend all this money this winter, it would have made sense to bring in a better general manager first.

 

:lol:

 

... :cry:

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Paul Sullivan says 8/136. The Cubs plan to put him in CF.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061119cubs

soriano,1,6514808.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

 

Interesting. Maybe a Jones and others trade to Boston for Manny?

 

With the 40 man roster squeeze coming tomorrow, I wouldn't be surprised to see a multi player trade go down today or tomorrow

 

Ohhh, good call.

 

Izturis + Jones + ? for manny?

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Yeah, when it comes out i bet its 5 years with 3 option years. I'd be more than fine with that.

 

Player options, of course.

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Yeah, when it comes out i bet its 5 years with 3 option years. I'd be more than fine with that.

 

Player options, of course.

 

Eh.

 

I understand people are all "outraged" that we spent so much money for such a long time. But, the way I see it: Yeah, its a poor contract. But Hendry and the cubs organization are proving they want to win. They are proving they are actually, for the first time since i've been a fan, willing to go out and shell out cash for a good player.

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Yeah, when it comes out i bet its 5 years with 3 option years. I'd be more than fine with that.

 

Player options, of course.

 

Eh.

 

I understand people are all "outraged" that we spent so much money for such a long time. But, the way I see it: Yeah, its a poor contract. But Hendry and the cubs organization are proving they want to win. They are proving they are actually, for the first time since i've been a fan, willing to go out and shell out cash for a good player.

Dedication doesn't make up for stupidity

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now go get another big bat Hendry. Drew, Lee, A,Jones,Wells,Dunn ect will all make nice with Fonzie and Murton in the outfield.
Andy GOAT

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So the Cubs now have the best lineup in the division.

And I see no way the pitching staff can be any worse. At the least, we probably won't have to start 15 different pitchers or whatever the nuts number was.

 

All it took is one giant move, and the Cubs are a contender if Soriano puts up even a 320 OBP with his 35-some homers.

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Yeah, when it comes out i bet its 5 years with 3 option years. I'd be more than fine with that.

 

Player options, of course.

 

Eh.

 

I understand people are all "outraged" that we spent so much money for such a long time. But, the way I see it: Yeah, its a poor contract. But Hendry and the cubs organization are proving they want to win. They are proving they are actually, for the first time since i've been a fan, willing to go out and shell out cash for a good player.

Dedication doesn't make up for stupidity

 

True. But i'd rather see him be stupid with Soriano then stupid with neifi/jones.

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