College Football - Week of 11/25

[CaliforniaRaisin]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

 

You're kidding, right?

[soccer10k]

This is the first time I've ever taken a look at McFadden.

 

He's a future #1 overall pick, isn't he?

 

Depending on who comes out with him. I'd say top 5 easily.

 

Definitely. Besides AD, there isn't another running back in NCAA right now I'd rate higher than McFadden.

 

After the first few weeks I would have said Garrett Wolfe, but he had a four games stretch against below average opponents in which he stunk it up.

 

Maybe Steve Slaton but McFadden is very good.

 

I'm talking about pro potential here. As such, I don't think Wolfe is anywhere near AD, McFadden, Slaton or Lynch.

 

Ah, in that case I agree with you.

[B]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

Dude, I'm a huge LSU fan, but please tell me you're joking. Why? Flynn's a good QB, but he's half the QB that JM is.

 

No, I'm not joking. Most LSU fans I know agree with me. Russell has a great arm, but he's about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. Flynn would have beaten Auburn.

[cubweiser03]

This is the first time I've ever taken a look at McFadden.

 

He's a future #1 overall pick, isn't he?

 

Depending on who comes out with him. I'd say top 5 easily.

 

Definitely. Besides AD, there isn't another running back in NCAA right now I'd rate higher than McFadden.

 

After the first few weeks I would have said Garrett Wolfe, but he had a four games stretch against below average opponents in which he stunk it up.

 

Maybe Steve Slaton but McFadden is very good.

 

I'm talking about pro potential here. As such, I don't think Wolfe is anywhere near AD, McFadden, Slaton or Lynch.

 

Pittman from OSU has very good potential. He doesnt get all the accolades because the offense doesnt revolve around him. He will be more of a focus next year with Troy Smith gone. He's got all the skills you look for.

[CDBears1259]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

Dude, I'm a huge LSU fan, but please tell me you're joking. Why? Flynn's a good QB, but he's half the QB that JM is.

 

No, I'm not joking. Most LSU fans I know agree with me. Russell has a great arm, but he's about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. Flynn would have beaten Auburn.

 

We obviously don't know the same fans. Yeah, he's not mobile, but what he lacks in mobility he more than compensates for with his arm. I think the last 2 or 3 games have shown that he does enough with his feet to get the job done when need be. It would have taken more than Flynn to when that game. Now FLA, I may agree with you on.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Ryan Leaf's brother, Brady, is playing quarterback for Oregon right now.

 

And that was a horrible read/throw for the pick-6. Did Dixon get hurt?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

This is the first time I've ever taken a look at McFadden.

 

He's a future #1 overall pick, isn't he?

 

Depending on who comes out with him. I'd say top 5 easily.

 

Definitely. Besides AD, there isn't another running back in NCAA right now I'd rate higher than McFadden.

 

After the first few weeks I would have said Garrett Wolfe, but he had a four games stretch against below average opponents in which he stunk it up.

 

Maybe Steve Slaton but McFadden is very good.

 

I'm talking about pro potential here. As such, I don't think Wolfe is anywhere near AD, McFadden, Slaton or Lynch.

 

Pittman from OSU has very good potential. He doesnt get all the accolades because the offense doesnt revolve around him. He will be more of a focus next year with Troy Smith gone. He's got all the skills you look for.

 

I do like Pittman (he's on my college fantasy team) but I don't think he's as good as Peterson or McFadden.

 

It'll be interesting to see if he will split carries with Wells or not next year. Any chance he turns pro after this season?

Edited November 24, 2006 by CaliforniaRaisin

[cubweiser03]

Note to SEC Ref:

It's holding not holden. It's kicking team not kicken team.

Thanks

[soccer10k]

 

It's absurd that Wisconsin is in the top 10. What have they done to deserve it? The only thing I can think of is because they play in the Big 11. Yes, the rankings are based on where you are ranked in the beginning of the year as well as the prestige of your team. Look at Arkansas. Where do you think they would be ranked right now had they started in the top 5 or even the top 10 this year? They would likely be a spot or two higher and would still have a good shot to make the title game if they won out. But because they started out the year unranked and don't have the history that USC, Michigan, and Florida have, they don't get as much respect as they should.

 

The only thing I disagree with you there on soccer is Arkansas. Even if they had been rated in the top 10 to start, that blowout loss to USC would have hurt (see what happened to Cal after they lost to Tennessee in much the same fashion). After that, the close games against Vandy and Alabama early in the season would have kept them low in the polls-low enough that this wonderful run would have kept them just about exactly where they are now. They would still have been too far behind teams like USC and Florida to have caught them in the polls at this point.

 

If they start in the top 10 they would still have been in the top 20 after the loss and probably around 15. After beating Auburn they probably would have jumped ahead of Auburn (who fell to 11 in the AP and 10 in the coaches). Then Auburn beat Florida the next week. Auburn moved to 8 and 7 in the polls and Florida fell to 9 and 10 in the polls. Arkansas probably would have been ahead of Auburn and therefore Florida as well. Then as teams ahead of them continued to lose, Arkansas would probably stay one spot ahead of Florida.

 

Either way, on second thought, they probably would only be #4 and still with an outside shot at the National Title game.

[jjgman21]

I had absolutely no opinion of the Big East conference until Cuse, backed by you, kept dominating every single college football thread whining about them being shown no respect. you have noone to blame for these conversations other than Cuse and yourself.

 

No, it's people like you and most of the media that call games like USC-Texas and OSU-Michigan games that featured great offenses but call a Louisville-WVU game a matchup that featured bad defenses. It's a horrible double standard that isn't fair to the Big East.

 

WVU and Louisville are good teams. I never said the weren't. but the notion that they could play with the power teams in the power conferences or should be considered for a shot at the national title is absurd, and I think deep down you know that.

 

They can play with the power teams. They are programs on the rise. Louisville is in a new, better conference. Wisconsin has been in the Big 10 for years. They aren't trying to improve their prestige while Louisville is so comparing the two programs isn't fair to Louisville. West Virginia was ranked #5 in the preseason and, arguably, was a Steve Slaton injury away from taking down Louisville on the road and still being undefeated.

 

the fact that two of them are rated in the top 10 is also absurd, because I think deep down you both know that the rankings are based mostly on incumbancy, and with no teams other than each other (and the improved Rutgers team) on the schedule with even a ray of hope to beat them, they will remain highly rated in both polls.

 

It's absurd that Wisconsin is in the top 10. What have they done to deserve it? The only thing I can think of is because they play in the Big 11. Yes, the rankings are based on where you are ranked in the beginning of the year as well as the prestige of your team. Look at Arkansas. Where do you think they would be ranked right now had they started in the top 5 or even the top 10 this year? They would likely be a spot or two higher and would still have a good shot to make the title game if they won out. But because they started out the year unranked and don't have the history that USC, Michigan, and Florida have, they don't get as much respect as they should.

 

your accusation of bias, similarly absurd. I guess they guy who has his schools nickname in his username is on the up and up and completely unbiased. the Big East used to be a fine conference, but they just lost their three top teams. you want to paint calling a spade a spade as biased, be my guest.

 

You are clearly a Big 11 homer. That much is obvious. As for Cuse, I think he knows he's a bit biased and he might have admitted it on here at some point. But I wasn't talking about him now was I? Once again, I have no bias though and no affiliation to any team, something I can't say about you.

 

you said you were done with this conversation, yet that pie hole is still a flappin.

 

 

I am a big 10 homer. no denying that. but I don't run around saying the big 10 is as good as better conferences when clearly they are not. I also have, you know, a legitimate case in the arguments I make in support thereof.

 

I never said Wisconsin deserved to be in the top 10. I never said Wisconsin deserved a shot at the national championship. I have claimed they get different treatment than other programs, but I think that is undeniable. stop trying to project arguments on to me just to make your arguments look better.

 

I kind of feel for you if you truly are unbiased. it really must suck to be so wrong.

[soccer10k]

Ryan Leaf's brother, Brady, is playing quarterback for Oregon right now.

 

And that was a horrible read/throw for the pick-6. Did Dixon get hurt?

 

In the Oregon-Arizona recap on ESPN it says Dixon was replaced during that game after he threw three picks.

[soccer10k]

it really must suck to be so wrong.

 

Actually I don't know what that feels like, would you care to inform me?

 

ETA: This is obviously a joke.

Edited November 24, 2006 by soccer10k

[cubweiser03]

This is the first time I've ever taken a look at McFadden.

 

He's a future #1 overall pick, isn't he?

 

Depending on who comes out with him. I'd say top 5 easily.

 

Definitely. Besides AD, there isn't another running back in NCAA right now I'd rate higher than McFadden.

 

After the first few weeks I would have said Garrett Wolfe, but he had a four games stretch against below average opponents in which he stunk it up.

 

Maybe Steve Slaton but McFadden is very good.

 

I'm talking about pro potential here. As such, I don't think Wolfe is anywhere near AD, McFadden, Slaton or Lynch.

 

Pittman from OSU has very good potential. He doesnt get all the accolades because the offense doesnt revolve around him. He will be more of a focus next year with Troy Smith gone. He's got all the skills you look for.

 

I do like Pittman (he's on my college fantasy team) but I don't think he's as good as Peterson or McFadden.

 

It'll be interesting to see if he will split carries with Wells or not next year. Any chance he turns pro after this season?

 

Yeah i like AD better, need to see McFadden not so much out of the spread but he looks real good. Im not sure about Slaton though. His average looks great because he breaks 40-50 yard runs but i dont think he is steady enough on the other runs.

 

I think Wells will get carries but i dont think he will take away too many carries from Pittman.

[B]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

Dude, I'm a huge LSU fan, but please tell me you're joking. Why? Flynn's a good QB, but he's half the QB that JM is.

 

No, I'm not joking. Most LSU fans I know agree with me. Russell has a great arm, but he's about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. Flynn would have beaten Auburn.

 

We obviously don't know the same fans. Yeah, he's not mobile, but what he lacks in mobility he more than compensates for with his arm. I think the last 2 or 3 games have shown that he does enough with his feet to get the job done when need be. It would have taken more than Flynn to when that game. Now FLA, I may agree with you on.

 

Well, count me in the group that hopes he jumps to the NFL after this season.

[CDBears1259]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

Dude, I'm a huge LSU fan, but please tell me you're joking. Why? Flynn's a good QB, but he's half the QB that JM is.

 

No, I'm not joking. Most LSU fans I know agree with me. Russell has a great arm, but he's about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. Flynn would have beaten Auburn.

 

We obviously don't know the same fans. Yeah, he's not mobile, but what he lacks in mobility he more than compensates for with his arm. I think the last 2 or 3 games have shown that he does enough with his feet to get the job done when need be. It would have taken more than Flynn to when that game. Now FLA, I may agree with you on.

 

Well, count me in the group that hopes he jumps to the NFL after this season.

 

I have no problem with him jumping to the NFL, but only so we can see Ryan Perrilloux.

[jjgman21]

 

Whined, yeah maybe. Why? Because of people like you that have such an incredibly closed mind when it comes to this topic. You are not alone by any means and because of assumptions like the ones you make are the reason why I have to get the message out. Having blinders on just because I'm a Syracuse fan is just plain silly to me. You prove soccers point once you mentioned that it's "absurd" that they even have a team in the Top 10. You're the one that bias Jigman, not me.

 

is it possible that many many people look at the situation with an open mind and just come to a contrary conclusion than you? I remember back in the early season when you started this crap. I looked at the Big East and said to myself 'he's got to be kidding me.'

 

look, I know better than anyone what it is to be under rated. the Badgers smacked Auburn down in the Cap One Bowl last year only to finish right behind them in the polls. the Badgers went into this season not even sniffing the top 30 even though they returned nearly the entire team (and its not like Davis and Alvarez were irreplacable) that smacked that Auburn team down.

 

the Badgers were underdogs in all three of their Rose Bowl victories. the Badgers have to battle their way into the top 25 year after year, and almost always manage to do so, despite the reluctance of the pollsters to put them there. what on earth does a team have to do other than go 8-3 in 14 years of Bowl competition, most of the time being severe underdogs, to gain a measure of respect?

 

one year the Badgers are rated appropriately. then Purdue gives them a tough game, dirty blocks knock three NFL ready D-lineman out of the next few games, and the Badgers are right back to 1992 trying to gain a measure of respect. at the same time, I had no misgivings about the Badgers not having a chance both times they faced Georgia in Bowl games. I am willing to call a spade a spade. are you? are you really going to imply that I am wrong about how the Big East would fair in games against the Big Ten?

 

 

 

I know what it's like. If only the Badgers were dominating a lesser conference over these last few years. maybe then they would get the respect that Louisville gets nationally, deservedly or not.

Edited November 24, 2006 by jjgman21

[B]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

Dude, I'm a huge LSU fan, but please tell me you're joking. Why? Flynn's a good QB, but he's half the QB that JM is.

 

No, I'm not joking. Most LSU fans I know agree with me. Russell has a great arm, but he's about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. Flynn would have beaten Auburn.

 

We obviously don't know the same fans. Yeah, he's not mobile, but what he lacks in mobility he more than compensates for with his arm. I think the last 2 or 3 games have shown that he does enough with his feet to get the job done when need be. It would have taken more than Flynn to when that game. Now FLA, I may agree with you on.

 

Well, count me in the group that hopes he jumps to the NFL after this season.

 

I have no problem with him jumping to the NFL, but only so we can see Ryan Perrilloux.

 

That's fine by me, but I doubt he'll start over Flynn.

[CDBears1259]

LSU would've been better served to becnh Russell a long time ago and play Matt Flynn.

Dude, I'm a huge LSU fan, but please tell me you're joking. Why? Flynn's a good QB, but he's half the QB that JM is.

 

No, I'm not joking. Most LSU fans I know agree with me. Russell has a great arm, but he's about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. Flynn would have beaten Auburn.

 

We obviously don't know the same fans. Yeah, he's not mobile, but what he lacks in mobility he more than compensates for with his arm. I think the last 2 or 3 games have shown that he does enough with his feet to get the job done when need be. It would have taken more than Flynn to when that game. Now FLA, I may agree with you on.

 

Well, count me in the group that hopes he jumps to the NFL after this season.

 

I have no problem with him jumping to the NFL, but only so we can see Ryan Perrilloux.

 

That's fine by me, but I doubt he'll start over Flynn.

 

Talent-wise, it's probably JP's to lose, experience wise and system knowledge surely favors MF.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

FUMBLE!!!

[Productive Outs]

UK vs UT tomorrow. it would awesome if UK somehow pulled this one out, but i don't see it happening. regardless, UK is in a bowl game! woo. i am loving the season andre' woodson is having. almost 3,000 yards, 61.1 completion percentage, 27 td, and 7 int. 153.23 QB rating.

 

colt brennan's numbers are crazy though :shock:

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Yeah i like AD better, need to see McFadden not so much out of the spread but he looks real good. Im not sure about Slaton though. His average looks great because he breaks 40-50 yard runs but i dont think he is steady enough on the other runs.

 

I think Wells will get carries but i dont think he will take away too many carries from Pittman.

 

McFadden will be fine in a normal NFL offense, imo. I certainly have some questions about Slaton, but he's also a weapon in the passing game which is a good sign.

[soccer10k]

Yeah i like AD better, need to see McFadden not so much out of the spread but he looks real good. Im not sure about Slaton though. His average looks great because he breaks 40-50 yard runs but i dont think he is steady enough on the other runs.

 

I think Wells will get carries but i dont think he will take away too many carries from Pittman.

 

McFadden will be fine in a normal NFL offense, imo. I certainly have some questions about Slaton, but he's also a weapon in the passing game which is a good sign.

 

Yeah, I always wonder about the running backs in gimmick offenses but both McFadden and Slaton look good.

[Warpticon]

Yeah i like AD better, need to see McFadden not so much out of the spread but he looks real good. Im not sure about Slaton though. His average looks great because he breaks 40-50 yard runs but i dont think he is steady enough on the other runs.

 

I think Wells will get carries but i dont think he will take away too many carries from Pittman.

 

McFadden will be fine in a normal NFL offense, imo. I certainly have some questions about Slaton, but he's also a weapon in the passing game which is a good sign.

 

McFadden managed 1100 yards last year in a standard set only, so I don't think he'll have problems running outside of the Wildcat.

[jjgman21]

it really must suck to be so wrong.

 

Actually I don't know what that feels like, would you care to inform me?

 

 

 

I would be much more worried about the quarterback situation if I was the Bears.

 

and all that followed in that discussion.

 

Army being rated higher than U of I should play any role in comparing two teams SOS.

 

there's two right there.

[cubweiser03]

Has LSU done anything against the wildcat formation. Dick hasnt done anything really. They should keep running it.