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Rutgers misses a FG and now Cincy is driving into Knights territory.

 

Cincy up by 10 points now.

 

I'm sorry, but if Rutgers has to come back against an unranked ballclub like Cincy, there just no way they should be put on the field with the likes of Ohio State.

 

That would be a travesty, IMO. Undefeated be damned.

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Quinn should win the Heisman.

Before the OSU/UM game I agreed with you.

 

Quinn's stats are still better. More yards, more TD's, same # of INT's and Smith doesn't have the benefit of a bunch of rushing yards and TD's like he did last year. Quinn's been the better QB this year.

 

And I'm not exactly one to hand out compliments to ND or their players very often.

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Huge break for Michigan. That wasn't close to PI.

 

But if contact is made and the defender has their back to the play, they are going to call it every time.

There was contact? It looked like they brushed hands at best.

 

He prevented Manningham from coming to the ball. That's interference.

 

not if the Manningham doesn't come back for the ball and there is contact, unless he fact guards, which he didn't do.

 

He didn't face guard him? What he did pretty much defines face guarding, he wasn't looking for the ball and making a play on the receiver. The ball hit him in the shoulder to boot.

 

faceguarding has to do with the hands, ie. putting your hands up trying obstruct the view of the receiver without turning around and looking for the ball. the DB never got his hands up. in fact, the ball hit the DB in the hand down by the waste.

 

I'm looking at it on Tivo, and that's exactly how it happened.

 

Faceguarding has to do with looking at the receiver and never looking at the ball. You aren't looking to make a play on the ball you are looking to prevent the wide receiver from making a play on the ball.

 

had to look into it, and didn't get the answer. what I did find, which is much more interesting, is that shouldn't have been pass interference because there is no face guarding in either pro or college football without contact.

 

there was no contact on that play.

 

http://www.nfl.com/fans/rulesschool120501.html

 

http://experts.about.com/q/College-Football-3195/Pass-Interference-face-guarding.htm

 

but I still disagree with your definition of what face guarding is. "looking to prevent the wide receiver from making a play on the ball" is nothing but a generic definition of pass interference. face guarding has to do with a deliberate attempt to interfere with the receivers ability to see the ball.

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wow, our Run D is looking weak

 

That's because it is weak. Outside of Mebane and Bishop, the front 7 aren't good.

 

Patrick Turner is not a true freshman, stupid announcers.

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Quinn should win the Heisman.

Before the OSU/UM game I agreed with you.

 

I suggest ND stop scheduling the annual 3-game swing against the academies. God love 'em (and I certainly do), but they aren't strong football programs and it takes the wind out of the sails when ND can't show what they've got against quality opponents late in the season.

 

Plus Army is no way to prepare for USC. Come on now :wink:

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FUMBLE TD!!!!! YES!!!!

 

 

Edit: Damn technicalities, incomplete pass

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Quinn should win the Heisman.

Before the OSU/UM game I agreed with you.

 

I suggest ND stop scheduling the annual 3-game swing against the academies. God love 'em (and I certainly do), but they aren't strong football programs and it takes the wind out of the sails when ND can't show what they've got against quality opponents late in the season.

 

Plus Army is no way to prepare for USC. Come on now :wink:

This was ND's first game against Army since 1998 and their first against AF since 2002. Army was the hastily added 12th game similar to Michigan and Ball State this year. (If BSU had pulled that off, ND would look in fantastic shape right now.)

 

Wow, Cal takes the fumble back 80-some yards but it's called incomplete. Now it's under review. Total judgment call for me.

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Where the heck is McGuire?

 

They kicked him out of the booth because of the odor emanating from his commentary.

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Where the heck is McGuire?

Concession line. I hear it gets long if you wait until the end of the quarter.

 

The only time the receiver had the ball close to him was when the defender's arm pinned it against him.

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Quinn should win the Heisman.

Before the OSU/UM game I agreed with you.

 

Quinn's stats are still better. More yards, more TD's, same # of INT's and Smith doesn't have the benefit of a bunch of rushing yards and TD's like he did last year. Quinn's been the better QB this year.

 

And I'm not exactly one to hand out compliments to ND or their players very often.

 

It's not a stats race---never has been. Quinn had a prime shot to show he was the Heisman favorite against Michigan in his own building, and they got slaughtered. Quinn looked overmatched at times.

 

Smith has faced down two #2 challengers and looked real good against both of them.

 

Smith is the clear Heisman winner IMO. I doubt the voting will be particularly close.

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