Time to rebuild

[CuseCubFan69]

Fire the GM now before it's too late.

 

Here's a quiz.

 

What's wrong with the statement quoted above?

 

I know it's too late already but the longer he stays the worse it's going to get.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Let me begin that I wouldn't look to trade Zambrano first. However, Zambrano is a FA after this year. If the Cubs can't get him signed to an extension, and if the Cubs aren't competing for a WS this season, it would be best to trade him rather than letting him walk for nothing.

 

I would approach him and offer him an Oswalt-like extension. If he turns that down, it's pretty apparent nothing is going to get done. At that point I'd entertain offers.

 

I'd look for one major-league ready player, one top level prospect, and a couple of projects.

 

I might even try to use him in a three-way deal that would net the Cubs a player like Cabrera, who is young, productive, and would be under team control longer than Zambrano.

[Outshined_One]

As bad as Hendry is, thank God some of you aren't the GM. Trade Zambrano????? He is one of the best pitchers in baseball and he's very young. We can trade him for some prospects that might make it to the majors someday as #4 starters.

 

Or we could trade him for some prospects who will go on to become multi-time All Stars.

 

Problem is, I trust Jim Hendry about as far as I can throw him.

[ChiCubsFan]

What's the '07 Free Agent market looking like?

[CubsWin]

Oops.

[Blueheart05]

I wonder how many pages this chicken little will get up to.

 

 

LMAO!

[Electron Blue]

Oops.

 

:)

[CubsWin]

Ramirez isn't gone yet.

 

It's just a matter of time.

Yep. About 5, possibly 6, years worth of time.

[Guest]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

[CubsWin]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

No one is saying otherwise, are they?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Oops.

 

I dunno, under the assumption that Ramirez was gone, I think it's a very supportable argument that the Cubs should rebuild. And ultimately, none of us are/were privy to the information of the negotiations, so none of us can definitively say that was a mistaken approach at that time.

[Guest]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

No one is saying otherwise, are they?

No, but you and others are acting very condescending about this.

 

Even with Ramirez signed, it might still be best to consider rebuilding if we don't land at least a couple of the premier guys on the market.

[mg420]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

[Geech]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

 

The Cobs need to aim for average and sign Jeff Weaver.

[mg420]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

 

The Cobs need to aim for average and sign Jeff Weaver.

 

perhaps you are correct but what should the chicago national leauge ball club do?

[A New Era]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

 

Just land a couple really good FA or trades and we will be BETTER.

[mg420]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

 

Just land a couple really good FA or trades and we will be BETTER.

 

just having lee back healthy (hopefully!) for a full season will be a huge boost offensively. that gives the cubs 3 potential .900 + ops guys in the lineup.

[Guest]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

 

Just land a couple really good FA or trades and we will be BETTER.

 

just having lee back healthy (hopefully!) for a full season will be a huge boost offensively. that gives the cubs 3 potential .900 + ops guys in the lineup.

Who is the third? Barrett's never done it. Jones hasn't come close.

[CubsWin]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

No one is saying otherwise, are they?

No, but you and others are acting very condescending about this.

 

Even with Ramirez signed, it might still be best to consider rebuilding if we don't land at least a couple of the premier guys on the market.

I thought it was a bit premature to assume that Ramirez hadn't signed and wouldn't sign.

 

Yes, there was one report on FoxSports.com. But it was far from definitive and there was no word from either Kinzer or the Cubs on the subject. Without waiting until Sunday to find out if anything got done at midnight the night before, the assumption was made that not only did the Cubs not resign Ramirez before he hit the open market, but that there was no chance of him returning even after he did.

 

This is faithless, overreactionary stuff. And those that participated in it, like predicting a Cubs loss in a game thread when it turns out they won, deserve a little razzing.

 

If you think I and others are being condescending, I invite you to read some of the remarks I get when I post something positive about the Cubs that is supported by facts and that some people on this board disagree with. This is razzing, Tim, but if you think it is inappropriate, so be it.

[CubsWin]

Oops.

 

I dunno, under the assumption that Ramirez was gone, I think it's a very supportable argument that the Cubs should rebuild. And ultimately, none of us are/were privy to the information of the negotiations, so none of us can definitively say that was a mistaken approach at that time.

I totally agree. Under the assumption that Ramirez was gone, the argument for rebuilding is very supportable.

 

My oops comment wasn't about that, though. It was about the assumption. I thought that was obvious. Sorry for any confusion.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

No one is saying otherwise, are they?

No, but you and others are acting very condescending about this.

 

Even with Ramirez signed, it might still be best to consider rebuilding if we don't land at least a couple of the premier guys on the market.

I thought it was a bit premature to assume that Ramirez hadn't signed and wouldn't sign.

 

Yes, there was one report on FoxSports.com. But it was far from definitive and there was no word from either Kinzer or the Cubs on the subject. Without waiting until Sunday to find out if anything got done at midnight the night before, the assumption was made that not only did the Cubs not resign Ramirez before he hit the open market, but that there was no chance of him returning even after he did.

 

This is faithless, overreactionary stuff. And those that participated in it, like predicting a Cubs loss in a game thread when it turns out they won, deserve a little razzing.

 

If you think I and others are being condescending, I invite you to read some of the remarks I get when I post something positive about the Cubs that is supported by facts and that some people on this board disagree with. This is razzing, Tim, but if you think it is inappropriate, so be it.

 

Rotoworld and ESPN.com were also reporting it, that's really not an assumption. I think the reaction was based on what seemed at the time to be solid information.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

No one is saying otherwise, are they?

No, but you and others are acting very condescending about this.

 

Even with Ramirez signed, it might still be best to consider rebuilding if we don't land at least a couple of the premier guys on the market.

I thought it was a bit premature to assume that Ramirez hadn't signed and wouldn't sign.

 

Yes, there was one report on FoxSports.com. But it was far from definitive and there was no word from either Kinzer or the Cubs on the subject. Without waiting until Sunday to find out if anything got done at midnight the night before, the assumption was made that not only did the Cubs not resign Ramirez before he hit the open market, but that there was no chance of him returning even after he did.

 

This is faithless, overreactionary stuff. And those that participated in it, like predicting a Cubs loss in a game thread when it turns out they won, deserve a little razzing.

 

If you think I and others are being condescending, I invite you to read some of the remarks I get when I post something positive about the Cubs that is supported by facts and that some people on this board disagree with. This is razzing, Tim, but if you think it is inappropriate, so be it.

 

Rotoworld and ESPN.com were also reporting it, that's really not an assumption. I think the reaction was based on what seemed at the time to be solid information.

 

The list is actually quite lengthy.

[erik316wttn]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

 

as were the cards this year. it shouldnt take too much more to win the central in 2007.

 

Just land a couple really good FA or trades and we will be BETTER.

 

Is it really that much of a goal to aim to be better than a 96-loss team?

[RichHillIsABeast]

Don't be too smug yet. If we lose out on the top 3 pitchers and someone else snags Drew and Soriano, well, we'd still be at best an average team.

No one is saying otherwise, are they?

No, but you and others are acting very condescending about this.

 

Even with Ramirez signed, it might still be best to consider rebuilding if we don't land at least a couple of the premier guys on the market.

I thought it was a bit premature to assume that Ramirez hadn't signed and wouldn't sign.

 

Yes, there was one report on FoxSports.com. But it was far from definitive and there was no word from either Kinzer or the Cubs on the subject. Without waiting until Sunday to find out if anything got done at midnight the night before, the assumption was made that not only did the Cubs not resign Ramirez before he hit the open market, but that there was no chance of him returning even after he did.

 

This is faithless, overreactionary stuff. And those that participated in it, like predicting a Cubs loss in a game thread when it turns out they won, deserve a little razzing.

 

If you think I and others are being condescending, I invite you to read some of the remarks I get when I post something positive about the Cubs that is supported by facts and that some people on this board disagree with. This is razzing, Tim, but if you think it is inappropriate, so be it.

 

Rotoworld and ESPN.com were also reporting it, that's really not an assumption. I think the reaction was based on what seemed at the time to be solid information.

 

Not signing before the deadline didn't mean he wouldn't sign. People assumed he was gone and slammed Hendry right and left.

 

That was the overreaction, not whether or not that report was accurate.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Not signing before the deadline didn't mean he wouldn't sign. People assumed he was gone and slammed Hendry right and left.

 

That was the overreaction, not whether or not that report was accurate.

 

I don't think it's overreacting when it looks like a player like A-Ram leaves your team to test a weak FA market that's flush with cash. If a player wants to test the FA market then it's reasonable to assume he going to want full market value. The freak out was completely justified and understandable.

 

But that's just my opinion.