Bring Back Moises

[abuck1220]

Alou can still hit, he's proven that. The problem with signing Moises would be to hope and pray he could play a full season without getting hurt, and I don't think he can play a full season without getting hurt anymore.

 

If he's signed as the fourth outfielder, that's not as much of a problem.

 

He's still a guy that can put up a great average and still give you a decent amount of HR's a year. I'm sure a starting job will be open to him somewhere.

 

You may be right. But then again, if we offered him more money to be the 4th OF than another team offered him to start, would he take the extra cash for the limited role.

 

My guess is most NL teams will be worried about his age and durability in the field and won't pay him big bucks for that reason. So, it would have to be an AL team with an opening at DH that signs him. I can see Cleveland, Detroit, and Texas...maybe Minnesota. How large of a contract will those teams offer?

 

I can see the Cubs topping what those teams will offer even if they are planning on using him in a more limited role.

 

I really see the Astros most likely to try to get him.

 

I dont see any of those teams signing Alou. Why would anyone in their right mind sign a injury prone 41yr old to a $7 million contract?

 

exactly. so why do you keep saying he's going to get a 7 mil contract?

 

you seem to seem to be simultaneously saying that no one's going to give it to him, but that is what it will take to get him.

[Guest]

Why does anyone believe that if we signed Alou we wouldn't have Alou and Jones starting against all right handers?

[beowulf28]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

 

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

If used in a platoon role, I think the chance of injury is lessened. If we have Alou along with Jones and Murton, the damage when he is injured is lessened as well.

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

I think his age and injury history will keep most teams from spending a lot on him. He made 7 million last year. I think 4-6 is a decent range to expect for him.

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

We've tried the nice guy route and sucked. I'll take a team full of pissing bastards if we can win.

 

We've pretty much sucked since Alou left town.

[baseball7897]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

[CubinNY]

Why does anyone believe that if we signed Alou we wouldn't have Alou and Jones starting against all right handers?

 

That's what I worry about.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Why does anyone believe that if we signed Alou we wouldn't have Alou and Jones starting against all right handers?

 

I think Alou will get roughly 100 starts. At his age, I don't think he would get more than that without getting hurt.

 

Assume that the Cubs will face a LH in 65 games next season. If all of those starts went to Alou, he'd take 35 starts from Murton to get to 100 games started.

 

Alou could start 100 games. Jones would likely start about 97 games or roughly 100. Murton still starts 120-130 games. I don't see that as that much of a problem. Having the option of one of those players as a pinch hitter also looks to be quite an advantage.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

 

Who?

[baseball7897]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

 

Who?

 

Oakland. They had success with Big Hurt. I dont see why they wouldnt take another risk on a Big Hurt type player.

Edited October 27, 2006 by baseball7897

[USSoccer]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

 

Who?

 

Oakland. They had success with Big Hurt, I dont see why they wouldnt take another risk on a Big Hurt type player.

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

[Mizzou]

Assume that the Cubs will face a LH in 65 games next season. If all of those starts went to Alou, he'd take 35 starts from Murton to get to 100 games started.

38% of games against a lefty starter? That seems awfully high. I would think that we'd face a lefty every 5 or 6 days, or 30-40 times total per year.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

 

Who?

 

Oakland. They had success with Big Hurt, I dont see why they wouldnt take another risk on a Big Hurt type player.

 

A few fallacies there with Oakland.

 

a) Their chance with Big Hurt was at 500 K.

 

b) They are talking about re-signing Thomas at a 2/15 deal. Would they then sign Alou for 7 million when he would have to play OF with Thomas at DH?

[baseball7897]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

 

Who?

 

Oakland. They had success with Big Hurt, I dont see why they wouldnt take another risk on a Big Hurt type player.

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

 

LF. Alou and Thomas are great fastball hitters. They both could hit 30Hr next year.

[USSoccer]

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

 

LF. Alou and Thomas are great fastball hitters. They both could hit 30Hr next year.

 

Thomas is signifigantly more patient at the plate, with more power. Also, I recall Alou being a much better breaking ball hitter.

[Mizzou]

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

 

LF. Alou and Thomas are great fastball hitters. They both could hit 30Hr next year.

 

Thomas is signifigantly more patient at the plate, with more power. Also, I recall Alou being a much better breaking ball hitter.

Better at hitting breaking balls than fastballs? No way. Or do you mean better than Thomas at hitting breaking balls?

[baseball7897]

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

 

LF. Alou and Thomas are great fastball hitters. They both could hit 30Hr next year.

 

Thomas is signifigantly more patient at the plate, with more power. Also, I recall Alou being a much better breaking ball hitter.

 

Alou has probably the quickest hands in the league. He could turn on a Zumaya fastball better than anyone.

[USSoccer]

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

 

LF. Alou and Thomas are great fastball hitters. They both could hit 30Hr next year.

 

Thomas is signifigantly more patient at the plate, with more power. Also, I recall Alou being a much better breaking ball hitter.

Better at hitting breaking balls than fastballs? No way. Or do you mean better than Thomas at hitting breaking balls?

 

I was trying to recall watching Alou as a Cub, and I remember thinking that it was either inside fastballs or curveballs he used to just kill.

 

I guess it was fastballs.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I can't be bothered to read the rest of the thread, so I'm going to post questions you've already answered.

 

Why do you think he won't get injured?

 

Why don't you think he'll cost a lot?

 

What about the fact that he's a bastard?

 

I'll try to answer:

 

No, there is no guarantee he won't get injured, but if he's platooning and PH, he's less likely to get injured, as Vance already said.

 

One person thinks he'll cost a lot, but then thinks no one will want to offer him $7 million, so he won't cost that much.

 

And please explain your third question.

 

He doesnt deserve 7 million, but some GM will take the risk of signing him to that kind of deal.

 

Who?

 

Oakland. They had success with Big Hurt, I dont see why they wouldnt take another risk on a Big Hurt type player.

 

Where would Alou fit in with Oakland? How is Alou anywhere near Thomas in ability?

 

LF. Alou and Thomas are great fastball hitters. They both could hit 30Hr next year.

 

I don't doubt Oakland would have interest, but I doubt they offer 7 million. Oakland doesn't usually throw that much money around.

 

Oakland likely offers at most 3-4 million. The Cubs may not be able to offer as much playing time, but they can equal if not beat the money.

[RichHillIsABeast]

The Cubs are about as likely to sign Alou to platoon in RF as we were to get Larry Dierker as our manager.

[baseball7897]

The Cubs are about as likely to sign Alou to platoon in RF as we were to get Larry Dierker as our manager.

 

Thank you.

[CubinNY]

The Cubs are about as likely to sign Alou to platoon in RF as we were to get Larry Dierker as our manager.

 

Just becuase the Cubs wouldn't do it does not necessarily make it a bad idea.

 

In fact, I think they should use the Costanza method more often.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The Cubs are about as likely to sign Alou to platoon in RF as we were to get Larry Dierker as our manager.

 

I've already admitted that the Cubs won't do it. Hendry lacks the creativity to even consider it. It's part of the reasons the Cubs constantly let options pass that would improve the team.

 

But just because it won't happen doesn't make it fodder for discussion.

 

We're not going to trade for Arod either, but there's lots of threads on it. In fact, we're more likely to bring back Alou than we are to get Arod.

 

We're also not going to get Zito, but people bring him up all the time. I think the chances for signing Alou are as good as getting Zito.

 

The Cubs are more likely to sign Alou than they are to be able to trade for John Lackey, but I've seen someone constantly bring up that idea for the past year as well.

 

If we only talked about the limited moves our brain trust could actually pull off, we'd run out of things to talk about.

[baseball7897]

The Cubs are about as likely to sign Alou to platoon in RF as we were to get Larry Dierker as our manager.

 

I've already admitted that the Cubs won't do it. Hendry lacks the creativity to even consider it. It's part of the reasons the Cubs constantly let options pass that would improve the team.

 

But just because it won't happen doesn't make it fodder for discussion.

 

We're not going to trade for Arod either, but there's lots of threads on it. In fact, we're more likely to bring back Alou than we are to get Arod.

 

We're also not going to get Zito, but people bring him up all the time. I think the chances for signing Alou are as good as getting Zito.

 

The Cubs are more likely to sign Alou than they are to be able to trade for John Lackey, but I've seen someone constantly bring up that idea for the past year as well.

 

If we only talked about the limited moves our brain trust could actually pull off, we'd run out of things to talk about.

 

Zito!!!!!!

 

PLEASE HENDRY!!!!!!!

 

http://thediamondangle.com/archive/july03/oakland/75a_big.jpg

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The Cubs are about as likely to sign Alou to platoon in RF as we were to get Larry Dierker as our manager.

 

I've already admitted that the Cubs won't do it. Hendry lacks the creativity to even consider it. It's part of the reasons the Cubs constantly let options pass that would improve the team.

 

But just because it won't happen doesn't make it fodder for discussion.

 

We're not going to trade for Arod either, but there's lots of threads on it. In fact, we're more likely to bring back Alou than we are to get Arod.

 

We're also not going to get Zito, but people bring him up all the time. I think the chances for signing Alou are as good as getting Zito.

 

The Cubs are more likely to sign Alou than they are to be able to trade for John Lackey, but I've seen someone constantly bring up that idea for the past year as well.

 

If we only talked about the limited moves our brain trust could actually pull off, we'd run out of things to talk about.

 

Zito!!!!!!

 

PLEASE HENDRY!!!!!!!

 

http://thediamondangle.com/archive/july03/oakland/75a_big.jpg

 

Not going to happen. Mets, Yankees or Dodgers.

[baseball7897]

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