College Basketball 2006-2007

[Jon]

Northwestern lost to Minnesota at home last night. Care to give us back our win at NU ronnie??

 

That was a bad loss for the Cats, but they have also stuck with UW and OSU at home for most of those games, so it's not like they are always that bad. I didn't say Illinois can't win that game at NU, just that U of I is going to have to play better than they have been playing to win in Evanston. If the Illini have the same effort they did at Purdue, NU will win. We'll have to see how it plays out.

I still think Northwestern will win at least one out of Illinois and Indiana in Evanston.

[CP_414]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

[SouthSideRyan]

Northwestern lost to Minnesota at home last night. Care to give us back our win at NU ronnie??

 

That was a bad loss for the Cats, but they have also stuck with UW and OSU at home for most of those games, so it's not like they are always that bad.

 

They've also let bad Western Michigan, Miami, and Loyola MD teams stick with them on their home court, not to mention a 1 point win over 0-20 vs. D1 N. Florida and a 2 point win over D3 Wheaton College. They have 3 losses to sub-150 RPI teams, 2 of them at home the other a blowout against Penn St. They have one win against a top 100 team, that being Depaul(69) the 2nd game of the year.

[CP_414]

Northwestern lost to Minnesota at home last night. Care to give us back our win at NU ronnie??

 

That was a bad loss for the Cats, but they have also stuck with UW and OSU at home for most of those games, so it's not like they are always that bad.

 

They've also let bad Western Michigan, Miami, and Loyola MD teams stick with them on their home court, not to mention a 1 point win over 0-20 vs. D1 N. Florida and a 2 point win over D3 Wheaton College. They have 3 losses to sub-150 RPI teams, 2 of them at home the other a blowout against Penn St. They have one win against a top 100 team, that being Depaul(69) the 2nd game of the year.

 

You didn't like the rest of my post? Look, I'm not saying NU is good, or that they are better than Illinois. I never even said Illinois doesn't have a chance in that game. Typically it is hard to win on the road in the Big Ten. Is Minnesota U of I's only conference road win? Tough to win on the road + a not very good Illini team could equal a Northwestern win. I'm not even going to say NU can't beat Indiana in that building. I like IU's chances, but road wins are tough in the Big Ten.

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets. I love how ESPN adds in he decommitted from us. Never happened guys, he just strung us along telling us he was solid.

Edited February 2, 2007 by illiniguy

[CP_414]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

[Bruno7481]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

[CP_414]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Gordon is much higher regarded than Bracey. I don't remember the Torbert hype, so I won't comment on how highly he was though of. EJ would be a top 10 pick if he could go pro right now. At no point in his life was Bracey a top 10 pick. Plus, I know this is a high school game, but EJ has gone to the basket more times tonight than Bracey did his whole career in college.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Gordon is much higher regarded than Bracey. I don't remember the Torbert hype, so I won't comment on how highly he was though of. EJ would be a top 10 pick if he could go pro right now. At no point in his life was Bracey a top 10 pick. Plus, I know this is a high school game, but EJ has gone to the basket more times tonight than Bracey did his whole career in college.

 

Torbert was thought to be pretty much the best HS player in the nation coming out of High School. While he had a fine career at Michigan State(I think he went to 2 Final Fours), his performance definitely didn't match his hype. By his senior year he was second fiddle to Chris Hill and Alan Anderson.

[CP_414]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Gordon is much higher regarded than Bracey. I don't remember the Torbert hype, so I won't comment on how highly he was though of. EJ would be a top 10 pick if he could go pro right now. At no point in his life was Bracey a top 10 pick. Plus, I know this is a high school game, but EJ has gone to the basket more times tonight than Bracey did his whole career in college.

 

Torbert was thought to be pretty much the best HS player in the nation coming out of High School. While he had a fine career at Michigan State(I think he went to 2 Final Fours), his performance definitely didn't match his hype. By his senior year he was second fiddle to Chris Hill and Alan Anderson.

 

Gotcha. Well, it's always a possibility, but I would not bet on it with Gordon.

 

By the way he now has 26 points with 2 min left in the first half. His season average of 33.8 points per game on 60% FG's is about to go up.

Edited February 2, 2007 by Ronnie Woo Woo

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

Frank might have been the third best player in Illinois that year behind Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson, but other than that you are spot on. :roll:

[dalgreen]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

 

:shock: Frank Williams had a very solid career at Illinois. I truly believe he was held down by Self's hi-lo offense. Had Williams played for a guard-oriented coach like Weber, Williams would've had an even more stellar collegiate career.

[Flames24Rulz]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

 

Uh...what? Frank was one of the best players Illinois has seen. Sure he didn't have success in the NBA, but he was a great college player. Bracey Wright was supposed to be one of the best players in all of college basketball and he was nothing but a constant disappointment. To throw Frank Williams in that list is kind of a joke.

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Gordon is much higher regarded than Bracey. I don't remember the Torbert hype, so I won't comment on how highly he was though of. EJ would be a top 10 pick if he could go pro right now. At no point in his life was Bracey a top 10 pick. Plus, I know this is a high school game, but EJ has gone to the basket more times tonight than Bracey did his whole career in college.

 

Torbert was thought to be pretty much the best HS player in the nation coming out of High School. While he had a fine career at Michigan State(I think he went to 2 Final Fours), his performance definitely didn't match his hype. By his senior year he was second fiddle to Chris Hill and Alan Anderson.

 

Gotcha. Well, it's always a possibility, but I would not bet on it with Gordon.

 

By the way he now has 26 points with 2 min left in the first half. His season average of 33.8 points per game on 60% FG's is about to go up.

But, no one would have bet on it with Torbert either. It is a high school game, he is so much stronger than all these kids. I can't believe how fast he is is combined with the strength.

[Bruno7481]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

Frank might have been the third best player in Illinois that year behind Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson, but other than that you are spot on. :roll:

 

It was a joke...

 

Most of my UI Fan buddies love to talk about how great Frank Williams is/was. Then in the next breath they rag on Bracey.

 

Last I checked Bracey was in the NBA and Frankie was in the NBDL. Since you mentioned Bracey, that made me think of that.

 

And I'm not really that big of Bracey Wright fan.

[dalgreen]

I've only seen Rose once and now Gordon once; however, I've been more impressed with Gordon than Rose.

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

 

Uh...what? Frank was one of the best players Illinois has seen. Sure he didn't have success in the NBA, but he was a great college player. Bracey Wright was supposed to be one of the best players in all of college basketball and he was nothing but a constant disappointment. To throw Frank Williams in that list is kind of a joke.

But then again the Hoosier fans also said that Deron Williams would be lucky to carry Eric Gordon's bags in a few years. You know the same Deron Williams who might make the All Star team.

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

Frank might have been the third best player in Illinois that year behind Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson, but other than that you are spot on. :roll:

 

It was a joke...

 

Most of my UI Fan buddies love to talk about how great Frank Williams is/was. Then in the next breath they rag on Bracey.

 

Last I checked Bracey was in the NBA and Frankie was in the NBDL. Since you mentioned Bracey, that made me think of that.

 

And I'm not really that big of Bracey Wright fan.

If Frankie's mom wouldn't have passed before he went to the Bulls I really think he would be Kirk's back up. But, he was lost for a good time after that and came into camp way out of shape and just not caring about basketball. He only this year got back into the game. I think the guy will be back in the league soon.

[dalgreen]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Or Frank Williams?

Frank might have been the third best player in Illinois that year behind Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson, but other than that you are spot on. :roll:

 

It was a joke...

 

Most of my UI Fan buddies love to talk about how great Frank Williams is/was. Then in the next breath they rag on Bracey.

 

Last I checked Bracey was in the NBA and Frankie was in the NBDL. Since you mentioned Bracey, that made me think of that.

 

And I'm not really that big of Bracey Wright fan.

 

I think they rag on Bracey because he was more heralded than Deron Williams coming out of high school. It's a rivalry thing. You better believe you'll hear the same thing if an Illini signee has a better career than Gordon.

[CP_414]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Gordon is much higher regarded than Bracey. I don't remember the Torbert hype, so I won't comment on how highly he was though of. EJ would be a top 10 pick if he could go pro right now. At no point in his life was Bracey a top 10 pick. Plus, I know this is a high school game, but EJ has gone to the basket more times tonight than Bracey did his whole career in college.

 

Torbert was thought to be pretty much the best HS player in the nation coming out of High School. While he had a fine career at Michigan State(I think he went to 2 Final Fours), his performance definitely didn't match his hype. By his senior year he was second fiddle to Chris Hill and Alan Anderson.

 

Gotcha. Well, it's always a possibility, but I would not bet on it with Gordon.

 

By the way he now has 26 points with 2 min left in the first half. His season average of 33.8 points per game on 60% FG's is about to go up.

But, no one would have bet on it with Torbert either. It is a high school game, he is so much stronger than all these kids. I can't believe how fast he is is combined with the strength.

 

I just think you are grasping at straws hoping he will be a "Torbert". I understand it is only a high school game, I don't expect him to put up 28 in a half in college. We wouldn't be having this conversation if he was Illini bound, the kid is just very special. He is strong, he is fast, he has a great inside game, and he has a great outside game.

 

Game Update:

Halftime: EJ has 28 points, 3 rebounds, 11-16 from the field. North Central up big on Loyola 50-27.

[dalgreen]

But then again the Hoosier fans also said that Deron Williams would be lucky to carry Eric Gordon's bags in a few years. You know the same Deron Williams who might make the All Star team.

 

I think it's a joke that it's being said around the league that Williams might be an All-Star. I know you agree, but what more does he have to do?

[Bruno7481]

Who does High School Rankings?

 

How could Gordon's team not be ranked?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

How's MJ's kid doing?

[illiniguy]

Watching Eric Gordon play makes me happy. He has 15 of North Central's 19 points with 2:30 left in the first quarter.

I hope this is as good as his career gets.

 

Good luck with that.

Kelvin Torbert Bracey Wright, it has happened before. That said I don't think it will here.

 

Gordon is much higher regarded than Bracey. I don't remember the Torbert hype, so I won't comment on how highly he was though of. EJ would be a top 10 pick if he could go pro right now. At no point in his life was Bracey a top 10 pick. Plus, I know this is a high school game, but EJ has gone to the basket more times tonight than Bracey did his whole career in college.

 

Torbert was thought to be pretty much the best HS player in the nation coming out of High School. While he had a fine career at Michigan State(I think he went to 2 Final Fours), his performance definitely didn't match his hype. By his senior year he was second fiddle to Chris Hill and Alan Anderson.

 

Gotcha. Well, it's always a possibility, but I would not bet on it with Gordon.

 

By the way he now has 26 points with 2 min left in the first half. His season average of 33.8 points per game on 60% FG's is about to go up.

But, no one would have bet on it with Torbert either. It is a high school game, he is so much stronger than all these kids. I can't believe how fast he is is combined with the strength.

 

I just think you are grasping at straws hoping he will be a "Torbert". I understand it is only a high school game, I don't expect him to put up 28 in a half in college. We wouldn't be having this conversation if he was Illini bound, the kid is just very special. He is strong, he is fast, he has a great inside game, and he has a great outside game.

 

Game Update:

Halftime: EJ has 28 points, 3 rebounds, 11-16 from the field. North Central up big on Loyola 50-27.

No crap, you think he would be this great to you if the situation was reversed. I am sure if it was though ESPN would blur the facts to make us look good too. I wonder if he shows up when we play at Illinois next year or if he petitions to have it moved like he did this game? The kid has great basketball skills and lacks social morals and makes poor choices.