College Basketball 2006-2007

[Bruno7481]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

The coach, 99.9% of the time.

 

I've always thought that.

[illiniguy]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

The Coach, having gone through the process you have to have a coach you feel comfortable with. Now I didn't do it at that level, so that may skew things a bit.

[CP_414]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

I'd have to say both can play a factor but the coach/program, but definitely are much more important.

[illiniguy]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

Edited February 2, 2007 by illiniguy

[dalgreen]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

I actually believe we will lost three more games. What from this garbage team makes you believe they will finally rise up and not play at least one more stinker game? I think IU and Iowa are road losses, but I think we have one more stinker coming, too. It's my prediction that we'll have to go 5-2 and then win at least one conference tourney game to have a hope for an NCAA invite. And then we'd probably be an 8-9 seed, at best.

[CubColtPacer]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

The reality is that most schools are so similar that top players like this really sign with a coach instead of a school. You're right though-Gordon and his dad had the responsibility of informing Weber. They were the ones who made the verbal committment, and they were the ones who re-opened the commitment. That was a mistake-the sad part is to see the fanatics in the UI fanbase make a mistake as well by doing things like threatening Gordon. No side is completely clean on this one unfortunately.

[illiniguy]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

The reality is that most schools are so similar that top players like this really sign with a coach instead of a school. You're right though-Gordon and his dad had the responsibility of informing Weber. They were the ones who made the verbal committment, and they were the ones who re-opened the commitment. That was a mistake-the sad part is to see the fanatics in the UI fanbase make a mistake as well by doing things like threatening Gordon. No side is completely clean on this one unfortunately.

The threat things are way overblown. EJ himself said they were threats of hoping he flops as a basketball player.

[illiniguy]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

The reality is that most schools are so similar that top players like this really sign with a coach instead of a school. You're right though-Gordon and his dad had the responsibility of informing Weber. They were the ones who made the verbal committment, and they were the ones who re-opened the commitment. That was a mistake-the sad part is to see the fanatics in the UI fanbase make a mistake as well by doing things like threatening Gordon. No side is completely clean on this one unfortunately.

Thank you a reasonable, mature thought from an IU fan.

[illiniguy]

Man Love can't be better than this kid.

[CP_414]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

[illiniguy]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

At this point I disreguard most of what you say. Sans the Gordon is good part.

[Bruno7481]

Wow

[SouthSideRyan]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

I actually believe we will lost three more games. What from this garbage team makes you believe they will finally rise up and not play at least one more stinker game? I think IU and Iowa are road losses, but I think we have one more stinker coming, too. It's my prediction that we'll have to go 5-2 and then win at least one conference tourney game to have a hope for an NCAA invite. And then we'd probably be an 8-9 seed, at best.

 

The chance of the team actually getting healthy at some point? But mostly the schedule The schedule is what makes me think they lose no more than 2 games. Half the games are against teams so bad they could lay a stinker and still win. There are 3 games against teams with RPIs in the top 150(at IU(13), home against UM(60), and at Iowa(95))

 

I think Illinois finishes out 6-1.

[CP_414]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

At this point I disreguard most of what you say. Sans the Gordon is good part.

 

I'd cry about that, but we both know Illini fans are much better at crying.

[dalgreen]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

The reality is that most schools are so similar that top players like this really sign with a coach instead of a school. You're right though-Gordon and his dad had the responsibility of informing Weber. They were the ones who made the verbal committment, and they were the ones who re-opened the commitment. That was a mistake-the sad part is to see the fanatics in the UI fanbase make a mistake as well by doing things like threatening Gordon. No side is completely clean on this one unfortunately.

 

In this case, if he truly signed with the coach then why didn't he commit to OU while Sampson was there? Or even have OU on his top list? It's just my belief that Sampson or someone from his staff contacted Gordon after his verbal. From my understanding it's an unwritten rule to not contact players after they have made a verbal commitment.

[illiniguy]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

At this point I disreguard most of what you say. Sans the Gordon is good part.

 

I'd cry about that, but we both know Illini fans are much better at crying.

Yep. Well that and cheering for a team that produces pros.

[CP_414]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

At this point I disreguard most of what you say. Sans the Gordon is good part.

 

I'd cry about that, but we both know Illini fans are much better at crying.

Yep. Well that and cheering for a team that produces pros.

 

College championships are better than pros.

[illiniguy]

I have no problem with Gordon changing his mind, but he and his father should've notified the coach you gave a verbal commitment to that you are opening up recruitment. My suspicion is that they knew what they were doing wasn't proper etiquette and just decided to say nothing. But it does beg the question, do recruits sign with the school or with the coach?

 

The reality is that most schools are so similar that top players like this really sign with a coach instead of a school. You're right though-Gordon and his dad had the responsibility of informing Weber. They were the ones who made the verbal committment, and they were the ones who re-opened the commitment. That was a mistake-the sad part is to see the fanatics in the UI fanbase make a mistake as well by doing things like threatening Gordon. No side is completely clean on this one unfortunately.

 

In this case, if he truly signed with the coach then why didn't he commit to OU while Sampson was there? Or even have OU on his top list? It's just my belief that Sampson or someone from his staff contacted Gordon after his verbal. From my understanding it's an unwritten rule to not contact players after they have made a verbal commitment.

It is in the big ten. That's where the controversy starts. KS also hired like three guys as coaches or film instructors with direct connections to Eric's family. The whole thing was pretty much disgusting for a guy who used to chair the ethics committee for the NCAA.

[illiniguy]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

At this point I disreguard most of what you say. Sans the Gordon is good part.

 

I'd cry about that, but we both know Illini fans are much better at crying.

Yep. Well that and cheering for a team that produces pros.

 

College championships are better than pros.

At any cost apparently.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Man Love can't be better than this kid.

 

I can't wait till this weekend, Love's game will be carried by Fox Sports. 43 points thus far sure is impressive, but Gordon and Love are different types of players.

[Bruno7481]

Quit arguing over who's got the bigger "$%".

 

Is this really the best team the state of Illinois has to offer?

[illiniguy]

Quit arguing over who's got the bigger "$%".

 

Is this really the best team the state of Illinois has to offer?

No Rose's team beat the number 1 team in america

[illiniguy]

Man Love can't be better than this kid.

 

I can't wait till this weekend, Love's game will be carried by Fox Sports. 43 points thus far sure is impressive, but Gordon and Love are different types of players.

Why your team is great right now, why do you care about a high school kid. :D

[CP_414]

 

You need to read better. He is my exact post...

 

"I'm an IU fan, I don't like U of I, if you want to disregard my opinion because of that, feel free to do so. Unless U of I starts putting it together I think they lose at NU, and IU, and at Iowa. Unless you are UW or OSU road wins are still really tough in this conference."

 

Starts putting it together means not playing like dogs***? You honestly expected the Illinois team that played Purdue to be the team that showed up the rest of the year? Again reverse the situations, (following ILLINOIS BEATING INDIANA)"unless Indiana starts putting it together, I think they lose at Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, and MSU" You'd laugh your ass off and probably come up with some new Eric Gordon factoid. To consider a team's true talent level based one game is ridiculous, especially when you just saw them play a better game 4 days earlier against your own [expletive] team.

 

Why are you getting so pissy over my prediction that U of I will lose 3 more games? Watch them play. It is very possible.

 

And again, you didn't say it was possible. Possible means it's not impossible for it to happen. Your predicting means you deem it likely, which is absurd.

 

Yes, after watching the Illini all year I think it is likely they lose 3 more times.

Great good for you. I predict you will be on probation in a few years. Therefore it must be true. After all I have seen Kelvin Sampson in action.

 

I never said that I guarantee UI will lose all three. I said I think they will. I never said because I think it, it must be true. You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. It was a prediction. I even said you could disregard it if you want to because I don't like U of I.

 

GAME UPDATE: EJ is good! 43 points so far.

At this point I disreguard most of what you say. Sans the Gordon is good part.

 

I'd cry about that, but we both know Illini fans are much better at crying.

Yep. Well that and cheering for a team that produces pros.

 

College championships are better than pros.

At any cost apparently.

 

There is that infamous crying again.