College Basketball 2006-2007

[Derwood]

Big one tonight Andy. I'll be decked out in my DePaul track and field warm up jacket that I was supposed to return after my final meet. :-$

 

But even I must admit, I have a bad feeling going into this one. We barely beat you at home in a game that could've gone either way at the end. I don't see the Blue Demons fairing well in South Bend.

Hopefully you're right.

 

I'll be busting out my Leprechaun Legion T-shirt (that's the clever name for ND's student section) and backwards ND green hat, as I do for all ND national telecasts.

 

oh, you're one of THOSE guys

You bet I am. I'd forgotten which poster on here had an issue with backwards hats, actually. :D

 

backwards is better than sideways or slightly askew (sabathia style) but still silly looking

[tadowdaddy]

Mizzou-Oklahoma tonight. I will not be attending because I have a fantasy baseball draft at 7 and that is more important to me.

 

Real big game tonight. Lots of shuffling going on in the middle of the Big 12, hopefully Mizzou can get their 3rd in a row against an OU team that hasn't fared very well on the road.

 

That's one guy... I don't see how we will be left out with a 4th place finish in the Big 12. Only one Big 12 team has ever been left out with 10 wins, and that was colorado, but they only won 18 games that year. If we win 2 more, we'll have 10 wins and 21 on the season. Win a game in the Big 12 tourney, and that puts us at 11 wins in the conference and 22 wins overall. No way we'd be left out.

 

Lunardi is normally very, very good with his predictions. I'd really like to believe that the Big 12 has that much weight, if for nothing else that it keeps a shred of hope that Mizzou could get an at-large with a miracle spurt to end the season, but I don't think that's the case. The Big 12 is down this year, 7th in RPI(just below the Valley and above the Mountain West) among conferences, and I'm not sure if KSU is guaranteed a spot considering some of the other conference crunches, unless they beat one of the other 3 tourney teams(KU, aTm, Texas) in the conference tourney.

 

My only thought is we have already beaten Texas AT Texas. If USC hadn't have lost to ASU, that would have been a pretty nice win too.

 

That's definitely an impressive win, but unfortunately that's the only one. KSU is 1-5 against the RPI Top 50, and OSU is the only team left on the schedule that fits that bill. Even then, the catch-22 is that OSU likely loses to aTm tomorrow, meaning that if KSU beats them too they drop out of the top 50. Also, while the Texas win is great, it's countered somewhat by bad losses against New Mexico and Colorado St.

 

I'm not disagreeing at all, but I still believe, 4th place in the Big 12 and one Big 12 Tourney win and we're in. That's regardless of if we go 2-1 or 3-0.

[illiniguy]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

[illiniguy]

Mizzou-Oklahoma tonight. I will not be attending because I have a fantasy baseball draft at 7 and that is more important to me.

 

Real big game tonight. Lots of shuffling going on in the middle of the Big 12, hopefully Mizzou can get their 3rd in a row against an OU team that hasn't fared very well on the road.

 

That's one guy... I don't see how we will be left out with a 4th place finish in the Big 12. Only one Big 12 team has ever been left out with 10 wins, and that was colorado, but they only won 18 games that year. If we win 2 more, we'll have 10 wins and 21 on the season. Win a game in the Big 12 tourney, and that puts us at 11 wins in the conference and 22 wins overall. No way we'd be left out.

 

Lunardi is normally very, very good with his predictions. I'd really like to believe that the Big 12 has that much weight, if for nothing else that it keeps a shred of hope that Mizzou could get an at-large with a miracle spurt to end the season, but I don't think that's the case. The Big 12 is down this year, 7th in RPI(just below the Valley and above the Mountain West) among conferences, and I'm not sure if KSU is guaranteed a spot considering some of the other conference crunches, unless they beat one of the other 3 tourney teams(KU, aTm, Texas) in the conference tourney.

 

My only thought is we have already beaten Texas AT Texas. If USC hadn't have lost to ASU, that would have been a pretty nice win too.

 

That's definitely an impressive win, but unfortunately that's the only one. KSU is 1-5 against the RPI Top 50, and OSU is the only team left on the schedule that fits that bill. Even then, the catch-22 is that OSU likely loses to aTm tomorrow, meaning that if KSU beats them too they drop out of the top 50. Also, while the Texas win is great, it's countered somewhat by bad losses against New Mexico and Colorado St.

 

I'm not disagreeing at all, but I still believe, 4th place in the Big 12 and one Big 12 Tourney win and we're in. That's regardless of if we go 2-1 or 3-0.

How can you predict that not knowing how the small conference tourneys go? What if Butler loses in theres? Or Memphis?

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley.

[illiniguy]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley.

They are both probational offenses.

[tadowdaddy]

Mizzou-Oklahoma tonight. I will not be attending because I have a fantasy baseball draft at 7 and that is more important to me.

 

Real big game tonight. Lots of shuffling going on in the middle of the Big 12, hopefully Mizzou can get their 3rd in a row against an OU team that hasn't fared very well on the road.

 

That's one guy... I don't see how we will be left out with a 4th place finish in the Big 12. Only one Big 12 team has ever been left out with 10 wins, and that was colorado, but they only won 18 games that year. If we win 2 more, we'll have 10 wins and 21 on the season. Win a game in the Big 12 tourney, and that puts us at 11 wins in the conference and 22 wins overall. No way we'd be left out.

 

Lunardi is normally very, very good with his predictions. I'd really like to believe that the Big 12 has that much weight, if for nothing else that it keeps a shred of hope that Mizzou could get an at-large with a miracle spurt to end the season, but I don't think that's the case. The Big 12 is down this year, 7th in RPI(just below the Valley and above the Mountain West) among conferences, and I'm not sure if KSU is guaranteed a spot considering some of the other conference crunches, unless they beat one of the other 3 tourney teams(KU, aTm, Texas) in the conference tourney.

 

My only thought is we have already beaten Texas AT Texas. If USC hadn't have lost to ASU, that would have been a pretty nice win too.

 

That's definitely an impressive win, but unfortunately that's the only one. KSU is 1-5 against the RPI Top 50, and OSU is the only team left on the schedule that fits that bill. Even then, the catch-22 is that OSU likely loses to aTm tomorrow, meaning that if KSU beats them too they drop out of the top 50. Also, while the Texas win is great, it's countered somewhat by bad losses against New Mexico and Colorado St.

 

I'm not disagreeing at all, but I still believe, 4th place in the Big 12 and one Big 12 Tourney win and we're in. That's regardless of if we go 2-1 or 3-0.

How can you predict that not knowing how the small conference tourneys go? What if Butler loses in theres? Or Memphis?

 

It's all on the basis that OSU and TT have some pretty tough games left.

 

TT has OSU and UT and at Ames which although they aren't a good team is always a tough place to play.

 

OSU has TT, KSU, and at NU which can be tough as well. I don't see any of them catching us in the standings, and one of them will lose to the other. If KSU takes care of business at OSU, it's a done deal. Even if not, OSU will not pass us in the standings, and will more than likely finish 2 games behind us. We'll see, but I guarantee that the big 12 gets 4 teams maybe 5 into the tourney, and I think KSU, by finishing 4th will get one of the spots. Just a hunch, but we'll see what happens.

[illiniguy]

Mizzou-Oklahoma tonight. I will not be attending because I have a fantasy baseball draft at 7 and that is more important to me.

 

Real big game tonight. Lots of shuffling going on in the middle of the Big 12, hopefully Mizzou can get their 3rd in a row against an OU team that hasn't fared very well on the road.

 

That's one guy... I don't see how we will be left out with a 4th place finish in the Big 12. Only one Big 12 team has ever been left out with 10 wins, and that was colorado, but they only won 18 games that year. If we win 2 more, we'll have 10 wins and 21 on the season. Win a game in the Big 12 tourney, and that puts us at 11 wins in the conference and 22 wins overall. No way we'd be left out.

 

Lunardi is normally very, very good with his predictions. I'd really like to believe that the Big 12 has that much weight, if for nothing else that it keeps a shred of hope that Mizzou could get an at-large with a miracle spurt to end the season, but I don't think that's the case. The Big 12 is down this year, 7th in RPI(just below the Valley and above the Mountain West) among conferences, and I'm not sure if KSU is guaranteed a spot considering some of the other conference crunches, unless they beat one of the other 3 tourney teams(KU, aTm, Texas) in the conference tourney.

 

My only thought is we have already beaten Texas AT Texas. If USC hadn't have lost to ASU, that would have been a pretty nice win too.

 

That's definitely an impressive win, but unfortunately that's the only one. KSU is 1-5 against the RPI Top 50, and OSU is the only team left on the schedule that fits that bill. Even then, the catch-22 is that OSU likely loses to aTm tomorrow, meaning that if KSU beats them too they drop out of the top 50. Also, while the Texas win is great, it's countered somewhat by bad losses against New Mexico and Colorado St.

 

I'm not disagreeing at all, but I still believe, 4th place in the Big 12 and one Big 12 Tourney win and we're in. That's regardless of if we go 2-1 or 3-0.

How can you predict that not knowing how the small conference tourneys go? What if Butler loses in theres? Or Memphis?

 

It's all on the basis that OSU and TT have some pretty tough games left.

 

TT has OSU and UT and at Ames which although they aren't a good team is always a tough place to play.

 

OSU has TT, KSU, and at NU which can be tough as well. I don't see any of them catching us in the standings, and one of them will lose to the other. If KSU takes care of business at OSU, it's a done deal. Even if not, OSU will not pass us in the standings, and will more than likely finish 2 games behind us. We'll see, but I guarantee that the big 12 gets 4 teams maybe 5 into the tourney, and I think KSU, by finishing 4th will get one of the spots. Just a hunch, but we'll see what happens.

I don't think you do. Hell the Big Ten might only get 3 and we have the 1 and 2 team in America in our conference. Whatever place Duke is in the ACC add one bid to the dance to protect them.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Where do you find the conference RPI? I found each team's RPI on a couple sites but have been unable to find the conference rankings.

 

KenPom

[Andy]

Big one tonight Andy. I'll be decked out in my DePaul track and field warm up jacket that I was supposed to return after my final meet. :-$

 

But even I must admit, I have a bad feeling going into this one. We barely beat you at home in a game that could've gone either way at the end. I don't see the Blue Demons fairing well in South Bend.

Hopefully you're right.

 

I'll be busting out my Leprechaun Legion T-shirt (that's the clever name for ND's student section) and backwards ND green hat, as I do for all ND national telecasts.

Actually, hopefully I'm wrong. Notre Dame is more than likely tournament bound. DePaul needs to play their way in by not losing anymore regular season games (and possibly doing well in the Big East tourney) Help a brother out! :lol:

ND is far from a lock. They probably need 2 more wins to feel secure and with a game with Marquette and a game at the RAC (where we haven't won since the Troy Murphy Era) left on the slate after tonight it's not exactly a given. Plus, the committee has a reputation for screwing over ND teams that left any doubt at all of their worthiness. The Irish were left out two straight years with 9-7 conference records that were compiled in the ridiculous era of two games with Cuse, UConn and Pitt every year.

 

All this is a roundabout way of saying we need to get that 4th seed in the Big East tourney before I can definitively say we're not sweating on Selection Sunday.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley.

They are both probational offenses.

I would not be so sure of that. From ESPN:

 

Aggravated driving under the influence is a Class 4 felony that carries a sentence of up to 12 years in prison. Leaving the scene is a Class 3 felony and carries a sentence of up to five years in prison, Rietz said. Someone convicted of either charge, though, could be placed on probation, she added.

Someone convicted of either might get probation. He's being charged with both. He still might get probation, but I would not be completely shocked to see him go to jail for at least a little while.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

ND is far from a lock. They probably need 2 more wins to feel secure and with a game with Marquette and a game at the RAC (where we haven't won since the Troy Murphy Era) left on the slate after tonight it's not exactly a given. Plus, the committee has a reputation for screwing over ND teams that left any doubt at all of their worthiness. The Irish were left out two straight years with 9-7 conference records that were compiled in the ridiculous era of two games with Cuse, UConn and Pitt every year.

 

All this is a roundabout way of saying we need to get that 4th seed in the Big East tourney before I can definitively say we're not sweating on Selection Sunday.

They're not a lock, but they're definitely in good shape going in. The only thing that would really hurt them if they lost tonight is how they'd matchup against a team like DePaul's resume. If they won tonight, DePaul would have swept ND on the season, and improved their conference record. They have cupcakes left on their schedule after ND, and could very well finish 10-6 in conference. So DePaul would have a better conference record, would have completed a season sweep, and have major wins over Kansas, Marquette, and ND twice. All that hinges on them winning out though.

[Keener98]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley.

They are both probational offenses.

I would not be so sure of that. From ESPN:

 

Aggravated driving under the influence is a Class 4 felony that carries a sentence of up to 12 years in prison. Leaving the scene is a Class 3 felony and carries a sentence of up to five years in prison, Rietz said. Someone convicted of either charge, though, could be placed on probation, she added.

Someone convicted of either might get probation. He's being charged with both. He still might get probation, but I would not be completely shocked to see him go to jail for at least a little while.

 

He has never been in any kind of trouble before. He will more than like get maybe a small(30-90 days) jail sentence and then probably 4 years of probation. I would be absolutly shocked if he was sentenced to prison.

[Derwood]

ND is far from a lock. They probably need 2 more wins to feel secure and with a game with Marquette and a game at the RAC (where we haven't won since the Troy Murphy Era) left on the slate after tonight it's not exactly a given. Plus, the committee has a reputation for screwing over ND teams that left any doubt at all of their worthiness. The Irish were left out two straight years with 9-7 conference records that were compiled in the ridiculous era of two games with Cuse, UConn and Pitt every year.

 

All this is a roundabout way of saying we need to get that 4th seed in the Big East tourney before I can definitively say we're not sweating on Selection Sunday.

They're not a lock, but they're definitely in good shape going in. The only thing that would really hurt them if they lost tonight is how they'd matchup against a team like DePaul's resume. If they won tonight, DePaul would have swept ND on the season, and improved their conference record. They have cupcakes left on their schedule after ND, and could very well finish 10-6 in conference. So DePaul would have a better conference record, would have completed a season sweep, and have major wins over Kansas, Marquette, and ND twice. All that hinges on them winning out though.

 

latest bracketology has 7 (I think) Big East teams getting in, with 8th ranked Villanova getting in over 7th ranked DePaul. There is work to be done. Hopefully the conflict between the 2nd half and American Idol won't be a moot point....

[C.C.]

ND is far from a lock. They probably need 2 more wins to feel secure and with a game with Marquette and a game at the RAC (where we haven't won since the Troy Murphy Era) left on the slate after tonight it's not exactly a given. Plus, the committee has a reputation for screwing over ND teams that left any doubt at all of their worthiness. The Irish were left out two straight years with 9-7 conference records that were compiled in the ridiculous era of two games with Cuse, UConn and Pitt every year.

 

All this is a roundabout way of saying we need to get that 4th seed in the Big East tourney before I can definitively say we're not sweating on Selection Sunday.

They're not a lock, but they're definitely in good shape going in. The only thing that would really hurt them if they lost tonight is how they'd matchup against a team like DePaul's resume. If they won tonight, DePaul would have swept ND on the season, and improved their conference record. They have cupcakes left on their schedule after ND, and could very well finish 10-6 in conference. So DePaul would have a better conference record, would have completed a season sweep, and have major wins over Kansas, Marquette, and ND twice. All that hinges on them winning out though.

 

latest bracketology has 7 (I think) Big East teams getting in, with 8th ranked Villanova getting in over 7th ranked DePaul. There is work to be done. Hopefully the conflict between the 2nd half and American Idol won't be a moot point....

 

Depaul needs to win out. If we can just get past ND we got a shot at it.

[soccer10k]

Where do you find the conference RPI? I found each team's RPI on a couple sites but have been unable to find the conference rankings.

 

KenPom

 

Excellent. Thanks.

[sherwood921]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley.

They are both probational offenses.

I would not be so sure of that. From ESPN:

 

Aggravated driving under the influence is a Class 4 felony that carries a sentence of up to 12 years in prison. Leaving the scene is a Class 3 felony and carries a sentence of up to five years in prison, Rietz said. Someone convicted of either charge, though, could be placed on probation, she added.

Someone convicted of either might get probation. He's being charged with both. He still might get probation, but I would not be completely shocked to see him go to jail for at least a little while.

 

He has never been in any kind of trouble before. He will more than like get maybe a small(30-90 days) jail sentence and then probably 4 years of probation. I would be absolutly shocked if he was sentenced to prison.

 

He is one lucky SOB that Carlwell is alright. Granted Carlwell was stupid too. College athletics are a joke sometimes.

[illiniguy]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/02/20/uis_smith_charged_with_diu_leaving_accident_scene

 

This article doesn't paint a very good picture of what happened that night....

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley.

They are both probational offenses.

I would not be so sure of that. From ESPN:

 

Aggravated driving under the influence is a Class 4 felony that carries a sentence of up to 12 years in prison. Leaving the scene is a Class 3 felony and carries a sentence of up to five years in prison, Rietz said. Someone convicted of either charge, though, could be placed on probation, she added.

Someone convicted of either might get probation. He's being charged with both. He still might get probation, but I would not be completely shocked to see him go to jail for at least a little while.

 

He has never been in any kind of trouble before. He will more than like get maybe a small(30-90 days) jail sentence and then probably 4 years of probation. I would be absolutly shocked if he was sentenced to prison.

 

He is one lucky SOB that Carlwell is alright. Granted Carlwell was stupid too. College athletics are a joke sometimes.

We still don't know if Carlwell is ok. He isn't dead, but I believe the jusry is still out out on the lasting effects this could have on both he and his motor skills.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

Wow, I'd completely forgot that Gene Cross was now an assistant at Notre Dame. He coached at DePaul for a while. He's a real nice guy.

[Andy]

Wow, I'd completely forgot that Gene Cross was now an assistant at Notre Dame. He coached at DePaul for a while. He's a real nice guy.

And by all accounts, a damn good assistant coach.

 

ND's off to a good start.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Missouri looking like they usually do at home, down 12-7 early but turning the ball over a lot.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Sad news with the Illinois situation. :(

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

Ugly game by DePaul so far. You don't want to get down this much on the road.

 

ND is just out- hustling DePaul in every way.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Mizzou on a 13-2 run to pull ahead 26-22 with 5:15 left in the half!

[Andy]

I figured ND might come out guns a-blazing. Helps that DePaul has evidently forgotten how to shoot.