Will ARod Become Available?

[Jazz]

The Yankees want MLB player(s) for ARod. Not prospects.

 

If the Cubs wanted to get involved without giving up Zambrano the will have to leverage a 3rd team that has a stud pitcher(s) that are nearing end of a contract whom they believe they can't resign.

 

 

Cubs get Arod

 

Team X gets - Package from Cubs

 

Yankees get - Players from Team X

 

how do you know what the yankees want?

 

Based on history alone I believe he is right. I can't even remember the last time the Yankees traded for a prospect as a centerpiece of a deal. The florida marlins fit the bill for what he is saying.

 

Cubs get: A-Rod

Marlins get: Pie, Guzman, and Marshall/Mateo

Yankees get: Willis

 

I can see the Yankees being very interested in Hill. They're also going to need a RF if they dont bring Sheffield back, so maybe Hill and Jones, and maybe throw in Eyre. I think that might be enough to get them interested. But I definitely think A-Rod will be moved this offseason, there's no way he wants to go back to NY.

 

I have no problem moving Jones, but i think we're giving up to much if you also add in Hill to the deal i proposed

[questionmarkgrace]

I think the yankees will end up trading him for less than that. Because his value is at an all time low and his contract is ridiculous. They could go about it 2 ways: eat most of the contract and get some decent players back or give him away to the team willing to take on the most money form his contract. My guess is the former. I don't think that we will end up with him though.

 

I could see the cardinals trading Rolen for arod and installing arod back at short. But with four free agent pitchers of their original staritn five I'm sure they'll have a full plate. I bet they're regretting the dan haren trade right now though.

[Brian]

How about

 

Yankees get Miguel Cabrera

Cubs get Arod

Marlins get Prospects

 

Yankees are going to want someone that can play 3rd and there is no one really good on the market (Unless Rammy leaves)

 

But looking at that, if we can get Cabrera with only our prospects just forget about Arod.

[nilodnayr]

How about

 

Yankees get Miguel Cabrera

Cubs get Arod

Marlins get Prospects

 

Yankees are going to want someone that can play 3rd and there is no one really good on the market (Unless Rammy leaves)

 

But looking at that, if we can get Cabrera with only our prospects just forget about Arod.

 

So if it took Nolasco, Mitre, and Pinto for one year of Pierre, its going to cost the Angels, Dbacks, and Dodgers farm systems to get Cabrera.

[Brian]

How about

 

Yankees get Miguel Cabrera

Cubs get Arod

Marlins get Prospects

 

Yankees are going to want someone that can play 3rd and there is no one really good on the market (Unless Rammy leaves)

 

But looking at that, if we can get Cabrera with only our prospects just forget about Arod.

 

So if it took Nolasco, Mitre, and Pinto for one year of Pierre, its going to cost the Angels, Dbacks, and Dodgers farm systems to get Cabrera.

 

Couldn't you let me be delusional for just a little while?

[NorthsideAvenger]

I could see the cardinals trading Rolen for arod and installing arod back at short. But with four free agent pitchers of their original staritn five I'm sure they'll have a full plate. I bet they're regretting the dan haren trade right now though.

 

I don't see the Cards trading for ARod for the reason you mention--the 4 FA pitchers---but also they STILL have to address who is going to replace Edmonds and to a certained degree Encarnacion. Are they going to re-sign Belliard for 2nd base, or did they look for another option. And what about the catcher? The Cards is no longer a dangerous enough of an offense--excluding Rolen/Pujols---to hide an offensive liability in Molina (regardless of the "All-Star status" Molina seems to reach in McCarver's eyes.) The Cards have too many holes to fill, and their budget ain't nearly as flexible as the Cubs.

 

I think the Cubs are going to get ARod, but it may take till December/January before it plays out.

[nilodnayr]

How about

 

Yankees get Miguel Cabrera

Cubs get Arod

Marlins get Prospects

 

Yankees are going to want someone that can play 3rd and there is no one really good on the market (Unless Rammy leaves)

 

But looking at that, if we can get Cabrera with only our prospects just forget about Arod.

 

So if it took Nolasco, Mitre, and Pinto for one year of Pierre, its going to cost the Angels, Dbacks, and Dodgers farm systems to get Cabrera.

 

Couldn't you let me be delusional for just a little while?

I felt 58 minutes was more than generous :D

 

Seriously though, no matter how much they are hating on AROD in NY, dont you think they would blow up if they didnt get a significantly good ML product? If ARAM and Z are off the table, I can't see Cashman staying on the phone. I dont even think a package around Prior will do it.

[nilodnayr]

I could see the cardinals trading Rolen for arod and installing arod back at short. But with four free agent pitchers of their original staritn five I'm sure they'll have a full plate. I bet they're regretting the dan haren trade right now though.

 

I don't see the Cards trading for ARod for the reason you mention--the 4 FA pitchers---but also they STILL have to address who is going to replace Edmonds and to a certained degree Encarnacion. Are they going to re-sign Belliard for 2nd base, or did they look for another option. And what about the catcher? The Cards is no longer a dangerous enough of an offense--excluding Rolen/Pujols---to hide an offensive liability in Molina (regardless of the "All-Star status" Molina seems to reach in McCarver's eyes.) The Cards have too many holes to fill, and their budget ain't nearly as flexible as the Cubs.

 

I think the Cubs are going to get ARod, but it may take till December/January before it plays out.

 

The cubs are really the only fit for ARod so I'll bite and say we trade ARAM for him. Move him to short and then pick up the unappreciated Edwin Encarnacion from the Reds. Thirdbase is a weak position this year, so it'll be tough to replace ARAM. Of course we could keep Arod at third, but thats just silly.

[Brian]

That's why if Arod moves, I think the Marlins are going to need to be involved. They are going to need a 3B, replacing Arod with Cabrera is about the best they can do.

[nilodnayr]

That's why if Arod moves, I think the Marlins are going to need to be involved. They are going to need a 3B, replacing Arod with Cabrera is about the best they can do.

 

But as you stated, any team that can pry Cabrera away might as well keep him for themselves. Unless of course that team already has an entrenched 3B.

[Brian]

I just wish the Marlins would get a home and lock up Willis and Cabrera so they can be taken out of every trade scenario.

[Brian]

Would offering to pick up all of Arod's salary (that NY owes) help our cause? Would anyother team being willing to do that?

[The Troll]

im on the ganja tonight and cooking up this:

 

Marlins Get:

Christian Garcia

Tyler Clippard

Felix Pie

Matt Murton

 

Yankees Get:

Dontrelle Willis (or Miguel Cabrera if they put up another prospect)

Scott Moore

 

Cubs Get:

Alex Rodriguez

 

Maybe we'd give the Yankees someone else too...

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Screw that. If we are involved in a Miguel Cabrera trade, then I want us to be the ones that end up with Miggy.

[nilodnayr]

Would offering to pick up all of Arod's salary (that NY owes) help our cause? Would anyother team being willing to do that?

 

I dont think the yanks will mind picking up any of the 15M or so they are paying him. They will have a ton of money come off the books this offseason and would rather get quality talent in return. And whoever said they would be interested in Jones, I would counter that they would just prefer to use Melky

[soccer10k]

I'm willing to bet that the Yankees would prefer to get starting pitching in return for ARod. Cashman's not an idiot and has to realize that the Yankees can afford to lose a bat from that lineup if it nets them solid starting pitching in return.

[RynoRules]

im on the ganja tonight and cooking up this:

 

Marlins Get:

Christian Garcia

Tyler Clippard

Felix Pie

Matt Murton

 

Yankees Get:

Dontrelle Willis (or Miguel Cabrera if they put up another prospect)

Scott Moore

 

Cubs Get:

Alex Rodriguez

 

Maybe we'd give the Yankees someone else too...

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Screw that. If we are involved in a Miguel Cabrera trade, then I want us to be the ones that end up with Miggy.

 

The Troll speaks. How does a guy with that name get past Tim and 1908?

[RationalSoxFan]

The White Sox will get involved, and they have the pieces. Crede is exactly the type of third baseman they would prefer. He plays good defense, which they'll overrate; he won a world series, which they'll overrate; he has a "clutch" reputation; which they'll overrate extremely.

 

Yanks get: Garcia/Buehrle, Crede, Broadway

WS: AROD, move him back to SS and put Fields at 3rd.

 

PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE

[Mark Priors Calves]

I see the Cubs having on interest in getting Rodriguez for one simple reason.

 

A-Rod has develop a reputation in NY for being "unclutch". Hendry has mentioned repeatedly that one of the biggest problems the Cubs had this seasons was the inability to get the big hit with runners on base. I think the simple-minded Hendry would take hold of A-Rod' reputation as "unclutch" and completely ignore the possibility of acquiring him.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

How about this deal?

 

Cubs get Arod.

Rangers get Prior

Yankees get Blalock and Eyre.

[CubColtPacer]

How about this deal?

 

Cubs get Arod.

Rangers get Prior

Yankees get Blalock and Eyre.

 

That's a very good start to how the deal would go. IMO, the Rangers would have to give a little more to the Yankees to make it work. That deal all hinges on how much the Rangers value Prior at this point.

[nilodnayr]

How about this deal?

 

Cubs get Arod.

Rangers get Prior

Yankees get Blalock and Eyre.

 

That's a very good start to how the deal would go. IMO, the Rangers would have to give a little more to the Yankees to make it work. That deal all hinges on how much the Rangers value Prior at this point.

 

Except Blalock can't hit his way out of a paper bag on the road, hell he couldnt even do it at home this year. The whitesox offer mentioned above is much more beneficial to the yanks and much more plausible. That'd be one hell of a middle of the order.

[XZero771679666304]

I don't think the Yankees necessarily need to get a 3B in a trade for ARod. They can get one later. What they need is starting pitching, and I think a trade that nets them a #1 type starter could get the job done as well.

[nilodnayr]

I don't think the Yankees necessarily need to get a 3B in a trade for ARod. They can get one later. What they need is starting pitching, and I think a trade that nets them a #1 type starter could get the job done as well.

The FA class is very weak for 3b, and there are no obvious trade candidates. The yanks need pitching, but they should be able to get pitching AND a 3b for ARod.

[soccer10k]

I don't think the Yankees necessarily need to get a 3B in a trade for ARod. They can get one later. What they need is starting pitching, and I think a trade that nets them a #1 type starter could get the job done as well.

The FA class is very weak for 3b, and there are no obvious trade candidates. The yanks need pitching, but they should be able to get pitching AND a 3b for ARod.

 

They don't need a good offensive 3B. Sheffield likely won't be back and, if you trade ARod, you still have these players under contract for 2007:

 

CF Damon

SS Jeter

RF Abreu

1B Giambi

LF Matsui

C Posada

2B Cano

 

So realistically, all they would need are #8 and #9 hitters one of which would be a DH meaning they can get anybody to hit there. The Yankees need pitching. That should be their primary and secondary focus this offseason.

[nilodnayr]

I don't think the Yankees necessarily need to get a 3B in a trade for ARod. They can get one later. What they need is starting pitching, and I think a trade that nets them a #1 type starter could get the job done as well.

The FA class is very weak for 3b, and there are no obvious trade candidates. The yanks need pitching, but they should be able to get pitching AND a 3b for ARod.

 

They don't need a good offensive 3B. Sheffield likely won't be back and, if you trade ARod, you still have these players under contract for 2007:

 

CF Damon

SS Jeter

RF Abreu

1B Giambi

LF Matsui

C Posada

2B Cano

 

So realistically, all they would need are #8 and #9 hitters one of which would be a DH meaning they can get anybody to hit there. The Yankees need pitching. That should be their primary and secondary focus this offseason.

 

Sure, the yanks don't NEED any more players that can hit the ball, but thats besides the point. We are talking about one of the top 3 offensive players in the league here, they will be able to ask for and get a 3B and a pitcher for him unless the pitcher's name is C. Zambrano, Santana, Oswalt, Carpenter or the like. ARod is a reasonably priced perennial MVP candidate, if its just going to take pitching, its going to have to be a reasonably priced Cy Young candidate. Which isn't going to happen.