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there has been some talk of this. i thought he should have been in the pen all year anyway. if he doesnt need yet another surgery, would he be a better option than dempster? i also think that marmol should be switched to the pen in aaa next year.

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Yes, a healthy wood is far better than dempster.

 

While I see the bullpen in the future of marmol, mateo, marshall, and guzman, I'm not sure that's the best place for them to sort out their respective command issues.

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Yes, a healthy wood is far better than dempster.

 

While I see the bullpen in the future of marmol, mateo, marshall, and guzman, I'm not sure that's the best place for them to sort out their respective command issues.

i still like marshall & mateo in the rotation perhaps as soon as next year. they have guys like pignatello, rapada, marmol & harben for the pen. who knows what will happen to guzman. he sure has looked brutal this year.

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Id say there is a 95% chance that Wood will be healthy by April closing

games if needed.

 

I'd say there is also a 95% chance he will tear some muscle or tendon again

by June.

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Wood can close. His stint in the pen a while back showed that he can be dominant in short outtings.

 

It's pitching on back to back days, or even 4-5 days in a row that is scary. Good thing we have Howry and Eyre, who can pick up the slack.

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Yes, a healthy wood is far better than dempster.

 

While I see the bullpen in the future of marmol, mateo, marshall, and guzman, I'm not sure that's the best place for them to sort out their respective command issues.

i still like marshall & mateo in the rotation perhaps as soon as next year. they have guys like pignatello, rapada, marmol & harben for the pen. who knows what will happen to guzman. he sure has looked brutal this year.

Marshall and Mateo are both #5 starters at best. If both of them are in the rotation next year, there will be some serious problems.

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Yes, a healthy wood is far better than dempster.

 

While I see the bullpen in the future of marmol, mateo, marshall, and guzman, I'm not sure that's the best place for them to sort out their respective command issues.

i still like marshall & mateo in the rotation perhaps as soon as next year. they have guys like pignatello, rapada, marmol & harben for the pen. who knows what will happen to guzman. he sure has looked brutal this year.

Marshall and Mateo are both #5 starters at best. If both of them are in the rotation next year, there will be some serious problems.

 

marshall probably needs to start in the minors next year to work on his control. if mateo is the #5, marshall (along with gallagher & veal) would be there to back him up in case he tanks.

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I want him starting if he's 100% healthy.

 

Yeah, dream on. I'm beginning to believe that 2003 was the fluke...the norm is Kerry Wood on the DL.

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I want him starting if he's 100% healthy.

the cubs have tried that route already several times. his mechanics & injury history show that he most likely wont be able to start & stay healthy on a consitant basis. the jury is still out on whether he can stay healthy in the pen as a closer.

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I want him starting if he's 100% healthy.

the cubs have tried that route already several times. his mechanics & injury history show that he most likely wont be able to start & stay healthy on a consitant basis. the jury is still out on weather he can stay healthy in the pen as a closer.

 

exactly

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What are we talking about in dollar figures?

 

$3 million in buyout + lets say 2 year, 8 million plus incentives means we are paying Wood a base $7 million this year to be a relief pitcher (with probably a hidden adjenda to move him back to a starter again) and at least $4 million next year.

 

Seems way too much to me. Must we pay big time to watch a pitcher rehab yet again?

 

Thanks for the memories Kerry, I really enjoyed the 98 and 03 seasons, here is $3 million have fun at Ameriquest Field (stay away from Minute Maid!!!)

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What are we talking about in dollar figures?

 

$3 million in buyout + lets say 2 year, 8 million plus incentives means we are paying Wood a base $7 million this year to be a relief pitcher (with probably a hidden adjenda to move him back to a starter again) and at least $4 million next year.

 

Seems way too much to me. Must we pay big time to watch a pitcher rehab yet again?

 

Thanks for the memories Kerry, I really enjoyed the 98 and 03 seasons, here is $3 million have fun at Ameriquest Field (stay away from Minute Maid!!!)

 

I don't think you would pay the buyout if you re-signed him.

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It'd be an interesting statistic to figure out how much money Wood has made per pitch the past 2 seasons. I might try to figure that out.

 

That said, under no circumstances should the Cubs resign Wood with the intent of having him be a starter. I do think he could be an absolutely amazing closer. I remember watching him in relief last year and the hitters just looked helpless; it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had watching baseball.

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I want him starting if he's 100% healthy.

the cubs have tried that route already several times. his mechanics & injury history show that he most likely wont be able to start & stay healthy on a consitant basis. the jury is still out on weather he can stay healthy in the pen as a closer.

 

He's on his 3rd major arm/shoulder injury, and all actually have a very high success rate. He's running out of things to hurt.

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It'd be an interesting statistic to figure out how much money Wood has made per pitch the past 2 seasons. I might try to figure that out.

That said, under no circumstances should the Cubs resign Wood with the intent of having him be a starter. I do think he could be an absolutely amazing closer. I remember watching him in relief last year and the hitters just looked helpless; it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had watching baseball.

 

I did the math, Kerry Wood has made $14,171.51 per pitch the past two seasons.

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It'd be an interesting statistic to figure out how much money Wood has made per pitch the past 2 seasons. I might try to figure that out.

That said, under no circumstances should the Cubs resign Wood with the intent of having him be a starter. I do think he could be an absolutely amazing closer. I remember watching him in relief last year and the hitters just looked helpless; it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had watching baseball.

 

I did the math, Kerry Wood has made $14,171.51 per pitch the past two seasons.

 

And considerably more per strike.

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He has already said he is willing to come back in the pen. I say throw him in the closers role. I don't think anyone is dumb enough to throw him back to back days early in the year. Use Eyre and Howry on the days he can't close and when he builds up enough arm strength by June or July then let him close two games in a row. He definitely has the mentality to close and his control improved last year when he threw out of the pen. What the hell do we have to lose?
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It'd be an interesting statistic to figure out how much money Wood has made per pitch the past 2 seasons. I might try to figure that out.

That said, under no circumstances should the Cubs resign Wood with the intent of having him be a starter. I do think he could be an absolutely amazing closer. I remember watching him in relief last year and the hitters just looked helpless; it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had watching baseball.

 

I did the math, Kerry Wood has made $14,171.51 per pitch the past two seasons.

 

And considerably more per strike.

 

This year he has made $53,140.10 per strike. More than most people make in a year. I'm not saying all this because I dont want him back, I would love to sign him as a reliever...I just thought it was interesting.

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It'd be an interesting statistic to figure out how much money Wood has made per pitch the past 2 seasons. I might try to figure that out.

That said, under no circumstances should the Cubs resign Wood with the intent of having him be a starter. I do think he could be an absolutely amazing closer. I remember watching him in relief last year and the hitters just looked helpless; it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had watching baseball.

 

I did the math, Kerry Wood has made $14,171.51 per pitch the past two seasons.

 

And considerably more per strike.

 

This year he has made $53,140.10 per strike. More than most people make in a year. I'm not saying all this because I dont want him back, I would love to sign him as a reliever...I just thought it was interesting.

 

It was calculated that the casino guy who is ranked 3rd on the Forbes money list made over $1 million an hour this past year, based on how much higher his net worth increased.

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It'd be an interesting statistic to figure out how much money Wood has made per pitch the past 2 seasons. I might try to figure that out.

That said, under no circumstances should the Cubs resign Wood with the intent of having him be a starter. I do think he could be an absolutely amazing closer. I remember watching him in relief last year and the hitters just looked helpless; it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had watching baseball.

 

I did the math, Kerry Wood has made $14,171.51 per pitch the past two seasons.

 

And considerably more per strike.

 

This year he has made $53,140.10 per strike. More than most people make in a year. I'm not saying all this because I dont want him back, I would love to sign him as a reliever...I just thought it was interesting.

 

It was calculated that the casino guy who is ranked 3rd on the Forbes money list made over $1 million an hour this past year, based on how much higher his net worth increased.

 

Wood would have to throw more than 18 strikes and hour to top that....so it looks like casino guy wins.

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I want no part of Wood being the Cubs closer come April. The last thing the Cubs need to do again is count on Kerry Wood or Mark Prior for anything. Prior is the teams fifth starter next season you just can't count on him to be healthy again. If the Cubs bring back Wood as part of a plan to have a dominate pen and insurance if Dempster continues to struggle.

 

Wood

Dempster

Howry

Eyre

Wuertz

Ohman/Aardasma/Nova

 

New Nasty boys?

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why do people consistantly count on Wood and Prior

 

as far as im concerned the arnt even alive

 

why do you even CONSIDER them pitching next year?

 

They get hurt EVERY YEAR

and EVERY YEAR you count on them again

and EVERY YEAR they go down again

 

its like a kid who gets whipped for doin somthin bad, you dont even try to stop, you just come back for more whippings

 

STOP COUTING ON THEM, THEY WILL GET HURT AGAIN

SAVE IT!

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