Maddux back?

[Neuby]

Anyone else like the idea of Maddux coming to Chicago this offseason at the right price? I think Maddux would welcome a return to the Cubs if Giradi was managing and the team made big moves in the offseason.

 

Schimdt

Zambrano

Hill

Maddux

Prior/Miller/Marshall/Mateo/Guzman/Omalley/Marmol

 

The Cubs could use some of there young arms and get 2 big bats that this lineup really needs.

[erik316wttn]

Maybe as a pitching coach. I don't know if I'd want him back in the rotation.

[A New Era]

As a #5 innings eater? You bet.

 

I'd welcome Maddux back at around $5-$6 mil.

[Yestheydo]

I hear he really likes LA; I bet he stays there.

[A New Era]

I hear he really likes LA; I bet he stays there.

 

Don't know. He also considers himself a Cub. If the Cubs get a big FA before him. He might consider one more go for the WS in chicago.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'd say LA has a leg up on keeping him. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in SD either.

[soccer10k]

I don't think he will return to the Cubs. He'll probably stay in LA.

[USSoccer]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.

 

No.

 

Maddux is not a good pitcher anymore. We need consistency, and that is something he can no longer provide. I have no use for "innings eaters" if the innings being eaten are eaten at a 4.5 ERA clip.

[RichHillIsABeast]

One of the best things Hendry did this season was trade Maddux. It doesn't matter what we got in return (Izturis). Just getting the idea out of Hendry's head that Maddux deserves a spot in our rotation next season is enough.

 

PETCOTA projects WARP for Maddux in 2007, 2008, and 2009: 3.4, 1.7, and 0.8

 

PECOTA had Maddux at 5.2 this season. So far he's at 5.8. Pretty close if you ask me.

 

 

He was a great pitcher, but it's just about over. The amount of money he'll get based on the past makes this a no brainer. No more nostalgia necessary. I'd like to be above .500 next season.

 

edit: and English is my first language :roll:

Edited September 18, 2006 by RichHillIsABeast

[Neuby]

The cubs will have to make moves before maddux would to return but with Zambrano- back troubles

Prior - injury troubles

Hill- Can he continue his dominate form a couple times through the league

 

Guzman, Marshall,Mateo, Miller,Marmol, Omalley,Gallegher, are all have ? marks in my book. The Cubs have the money to spend and having a guy around like Maddux who will be around every fifth day is something the Cubs need.

 

Schimdt

Zambrano

Hill

Prior

Maddux

 

Its gives the the Cubs some options on trading some young pitching to get some big bats.

 

Schimdt and Maddux along with hop

[A New Era]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.

 

No.

 

Maddux is not a good pitcher anymore. We need consistency, and that is something he can no longer provide. I have no use for "innings eaters" if the innings being eaten are eaten at a 4.5 ERA clip.

 

You can't accept a 4.5 #5 starter? Can you name any club that has all 5 starts with an ERA under 4.5? An innings eater is more valuable than you might beleive. As it saves the bullpen from overwork, and helps to keep them fresh. .

 

A #5 innings eater, is something we really should get.

[RichHillIsABeast]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.

 

No.

 

Maddux is not a good pitcher anymore. We need consistency, and that is something he can no longer provide. I have no use for "innings eaters" if the innings being eaten are eaten at a 4.5 ERA clip.

 

You can't accept a 4.5 #5 starter? Can you name any club that has all 5 starts with an ERA under 4.5? An innings eater is more valuable than you might beleive. As it saves the bullpen from overwork, and helps to keep them fresh. .

 

A #5 innings eater, is something we really should get.

 

You don't spend $5M+ on a #5 starter. It doesn't matter how many innings he pitches in a season.

 

You use the 5 slot to evaluate minor league pitching talent, which we have.

[UMFan83]

Based on his comments since he's left the north side, I would consider it highly unlikely that he comes back to the team. I also think its highly unlikely that the Cubs persue him in FA.

[A New Era]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.

 

No.

 

Maddux is not a good pitcher anymore. We need consistency, and that is something he can no longer provide. I have no use for "innings eaters" if the innings being eaten are eaten at a 4.5 ERA clip.

 

You can't accept a 4.5 #5 starter? Can you name any club that has all 5 starts with an ERA under 4.5? An innings eater is more valuable than you might beleive. As it saves the bullpen from overwork, and helps to keep them fresh. .

 

A #5 innings eater, is something we really should get.

 

You don't spend $5M+ on a #5 starter. It doesn't matter how many innings he pitches in a season.

 

You use the 5 slot to evaluate minor league pitching talent, which we have.

 

Very well. But one of the other 4 have to be a bonified innings eater.

[Schwarber Fan]

Maddux said he'd love to come back in 07 right after his trade to LA...

 

HOWEVER... If the Dodgers win the WS or go far in the postseason, I gotta think he will stay there. I think Maddux is a better pitcher when he has something to play for. Remember his 5-0 start? Then DLee got hurt and he went downhill. He has succeeded in virtually EVERY start as a Dodger.

[David]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

[A New Era]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Elaborate, or don't post at all.

[USSoccer]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.

 

No.

 

Maddux is not a good pitcher anymore. We need consistency, and that is something he can no longer provide. I have no use for "innings eaters" if the innings being eaten are eaten at a 4.5 ERA clip.

 

You can't accept a 4.5 #5 starter? Can you name any club that has all 5 starts with an ERA under 4.5? An innings eater is more valuable than you might beleive. As it saves the bullpen from overwork, and helps to keep them fresh. .

 

A #5 innings eater, is something we really should get.

 

You don't spend $5M+ on a #5 starter. It doesn't matter how many innings he pitches in a season.

 

You use the 5 slot to evaluate minor league pitching talent, which we have.

 

Very well. But one of the other 4 have to be a bonified innings eater.

 

You're wrong. They have to be good. You look for a good pitcher, not a mediocre durable one. If you find a good pitcher, the innings take care of themselves.

[A New Era]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.

 

No.

 

Maddux is not a good pitcher anymore. We need consistency, and that is something he can no longer provide. I have no use for "innings eaters" if the innings being eaten are eaten at a 4.5 ERA clip.

 

You can't accept a 4.5 #5 starter? Can you name any club that has all 5 starts with an ERA under 4.5? An innings eater is more valuable than you might beleive. As it saves the bullpen from overwork, and helps to keep them fresh. .

 

A #5 innings eater, is something we really should get.

 

You don't spend $5M+ on a #5 starter. It doesn't matter how many innings he pitches in a season.

 

You use the 5 slot to evaluate minor league pitching talent, which we have.

 

Very well. But one of the other 4 have to be a bonified innings eater.

 

You're wrong. They have to be good. You look for a good pitcher, not a mediocre durable one. If you find a good pitcher, the innings take care of themselves.

 

You've just described an innings eater.

[David]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Elaborate, or don't post at all.

 

Do I really need to elaborate? I do know that I don't need to be told if or when to post.

 

You want elaboration? Maddux will be an overpaid average to below average starting pitcher. He's a nostalgia act. It would be a terrible move to bring him back when you can get the same or better production out of a league minimum rookie.

[A New Era]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Elaborate, or don't post at all.

 

Do I really need to elaborate? I do know that I don't need to be told if or when to post.

 

You want elaboration? Maddux will be an overpaid average to below average starting pitcher. He's a nostalgia act. It would be a terrible move to bring him back when you can get the same or better production out of a league minimum rookie.

 

Which of our rookies would give us what maddux would? Which one has a proven history of going over 200 innings? None. I'm not advocating giving him a ludicrous contract. At Maddux' age he might understand he should expect less. I'd offer him a low contract and see if he bites. If not, no big deal.

[SAMMYWHO]

I would go after Jason Schmidt and then Vincente Padilla. If I wanted an innings eater I would look at Jeff Weaver for 3-4 million. Before everyone blasts me on Jeff Weaver, he would be my last option just to say I signed someone. I personally think Hendry's going after his lefty, Barry Zito. You all know you have to have a lefty in the bullpen.

[USSoccer]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Elaborate, or don't post at all.

 

Do I really need to elaborate? I do know that I don't need to be told if or when to post.

 

You want elaboration? Maddux will be an overpaid average to below average starting pitcher. He's a nostalgia act. It would be a terrible move to bring him back when you can get the same or better production out of a league minimum rookie.

 

Which of our rookies would give us what maddux would? Which one has a proven history of going over 200 innings? None. I'm not advocating giving him a ludicrous contract. At Maddux' age he might understand he should expect less. I'd offer him a low contract and see if he bites. If not, no big deal.

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

[Laura]

As others have said, I'd be surprised if he didn't re-sign with the Dodgers. They're a better fit for him.

[A New Era]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Elaborate, or don't post at all.

 

Do I really need to elaborate? I do know that I don't need to be told if or when to post.

 

You want elaboration? Maddux will be an overpaid average to below average starting pitcher. He's a nostalgia act. It would be a terrible move to bring him back when you can get the same or better production out of a league minimum rookie.

 

Which of our rookies would give us what maddux would? Which one has a proven history of going over 200 innings? None. I'm not advocating giving him a ludicrous contract. At Maddux' age he might understand he should expect less. I'd offer him a low contract and see if he bites. If not, no big deal.

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?