Maddux back?

[USSoccer]

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?

 

Are you implying that Maddux is still a consistent pitcher?

[A New Era]

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?

 

Are you implying that Maddux is still a consistent pitcher?

 

He has a 4.22 ERA this year, and is the type of pitcher that can keep you in the game, would be great around all of our rookies, and I beleive he still has the stuff to be a good #5. But as I said I would not offer him a whole lot.

[FergieJ31]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Greg, is that you?

[NCCubFan]

NO.

 

No.

 

Um, no.

 

Elaborate, or don't post at all.

Do not tell others not to post.

[MPrior]

I personally think Hendry's going after his lefty, Barry Zito. You all know you have to have a lefty in the bullpen.

 

It would be just like Hendry to pay Zito everything he wants and then put him in the bullpen.

[USSoccer]

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?

 

Are you implying that Maddux is still a consistent pitcher?

 

He has a 4.22 ERA this year, and is the type of pitcher that can keep you in the game, would be great around all of our rookies, and I beleive he still has the stuff to be a good #5. But as I said I would not offer him a whole lot.

 

A 4.22 ERA isn't good. He took the Cubs out of games just as much as he kept them in them, and if he's such a good influence on our young pitchers then hire him to be a pitching coach or a bench coach. He's not worth committing a rotation spot to what should be a retooling team next season.

[CubColtPacer]

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?

 

Are you implying that Maddux is still a consistent pitcher?

 

He has a 4.22 ERA this year, and is the type of pitcher that can keep you in the game, would be great around all of our rookies, and I beleive he still has the stuff to be a good #5. But as I said I would not offer him a whole lot.

 

A 4.22 ERA isn't good. He took the Cubs out of games just as much as he kept them in them, and if he's such a good influence on our young pitchers then hire him to be a pitching coach or a bench coach. He's not worth committing a rotation spot to what should be a retooling team next season.

 

If we got a 4.22 ERA out of our fifth starter, I would be ecstatic. In fact-if you told me before the season that I'd have a guaranteed 4.22 ERA from every single pitcher before the season, I'd sign on to that in a second-we'd move from 25th in pitching in the league rankings to 8th. If we can have a 5th starter with a 4.22 (or even a 4.4 or 4.5) he still would be better than just about any fifth starter in the league, and combined with a good bullpen we could have one of the better starting staffs in the entire league.

[SAMMYWHO]

I personally think Hendry's going after his lefty, Barry Zito. You all know you have to have a lefty in the bullpen.

 

It would be just like Hendry to pay Zito everything he wants and then put him in the bullpen.

 

My bad MPrior, I was thinking how well that has worked out for Hendry in the past. For example, Glendon Rusch and that's where he ended up.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?

 

Are you implying that Maddux is still a consistent pitcher?

 

He has a 4.22 ERA this year, and is the type of pitcher that can keep you in the game, would be great around all of our rookies, and I beleive he still has the stuff to be a good #5. But as I said I would not offer him a whole lot.

 

A 4.22 ERA isn't good. He took the Cubs out of games just as much as he kept them in them, and if he's such a good influence on our young pitchers then hire him to be a pitching coach or a bench coach. He's not worth committing a rotation spot to what should be a retooling team next season.

 

If we got a 4.22 ERA out of our fifth starter, I would be ecstatic. In fact-if you told me before the season that I'd have a guaranteed 4.22 ERA from every single pitcher before the season, I'd sign on to that in a second-we'd move from 25th in pitching in the league rankings to 8th. If we can have a 5th starter with a 4.22 (or even a 4.4 or 4.5) he still would be better than just about any fifth starter in the league, and combined with a good bullpen we could have one of the better starting staffs in the entire league.

 

I agree with a lot of this, but do you really want to pay your #5 guy what Maddux is likely to command/demand if he keeps playing?

[CubColtPacer]

 

Who cares if he can go over 200 innings? It's worthless unless you can consistently put your team in a position to win, which Maddux can no longer do!

 

Between Marmol, Guzman and Mateo (not even factoring in guys still in the minors like Gallagher, Veal, etc) you can get 200 IP from your 5th starter, but what matters is the production.

 

If you just want a guy who will save the bullpen and "eat innings", then we should sign the unremarkable and mediocre Steve Trachsel.

 

I've always wanted to say this. Can I borrow your time machine?

 

Are you implying that Maddux is still a consistent pitcher?

 

He has a 4.22 ERA this year, and is the type of pitcher that can keep you in the game, would be great around all of our rookies, and I beleive he still has the stuff to be a good #5. But as I said I would not offer him a whole lot.

 

A 4.22 ERA isn't good. He took the Cubs out of games just as much as he kept them in them, and if he's such a good influence on our young pitchers then hire him to be a pitching coach or a bench coach. He's not worth committing a rotation spot to what should be a retooling team next season.

 

If we got a 4.22 ERA out of our fifth starter, I would be ecstatic. In fact-if you told me before the season that I'd have a guaranteed 4.22 ERA from every single pitcher before the season, I'd sign on to that in a second-we'd move from 25th in pitching in the league rankings to 8th. If we can have a 5th starter with a 4.22 (or even a 4.4 or 4.5) he still would be better than just about any fifth starter in the league, and combined with a good bullpen we could have one of the better starting staffs in the entire league.

 

I agree with a lot of this, but do you really want to pay your #5 guy what Maddux is likely to command/demand if he keeps playing?

 

It depends on what he wants for how long. If it's a 1 year deal, then its not a big deal to overpay if you're mostly done with the rest of the offseason. I don't want to go hard after Maddux the first week-let's take care of the rest of our business (big bat, top of the rotation starter), and then when we get past those bigger needs to the pitcher slot where Maddux would be slotted into, if he's still available for one year it becomes a good deal. That money likely wouldn't go anywhere else at that point other then in the executives pocket anway.

[goonys evil twin]

I don't think there's anyway Maddux considers the Cubs this offseason, and I am fine with that.

[wrigley23]

we are not going to be contenders so bringing in a washed up 40-plus pitcher is idiotic & Cublike.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Is Moyer a FA too?