Happy Elimination Day

[NCCubFan]

With St. Louis winning tonight, the Cubs are now mathematically eliminated from the NL Central. A San Diego win coupled with a Cub loss tomorrow will result in elimination from the Wild Card race. Let the champagne flow. :D

[erik316wttn]

And now, with the Cubs officially out of it, I predict them becoming the hottest team in baseball for the rest of the season.

[soccer10k]

I'm going to crack open a beer right now.

[A New Era]

I'm going to crack open a beer right now.

 

I'm gonna beer open a crack, right now.

[Drew Doughty]

the topic title reminded me of a good song.

 

HAPPY ANTERABAE DAY!!!!!

 

Anyways.

 

WOOO!!!!

 

OH YEAH!

[UMFan83]

Heh, anyone want to bump any of those "are the cubs really out of it?" threads from a few weeks ago?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I think we still got a shot. Who's with me? Scott G.F.? Anyone?

[Guest]

.500 by March 28 . . . book it!

[A New Era]

I think we still got a shot. Who's with me? Scott G.F.? Anyone?

 

Oh man, nasty. :lol:

[Too Tall]

But Houston and Florida came back, why can't we?

[CuseCubFan69]

I think we still got a shot. Who's with me? Scott G.F.? Anyone?

 

Hey!!! I like Scotts optimisum! I need to see those types of posts before I lose my mind.

[Scott G. F.]

I hope to never write one of those 0.500 at (fill in date) next year.

 

With Dusty 'possibly' gone. Hendry could build a good team for a couple years if he signs Zito, and another innings eating pitcher. Signs Soriano for second base, Signs Lee for LF. Resigns JP, extends Am Ram, and Zambrano. Cuts a deal with Wood for the pen.

 

This team doesn't look as bad for next year as people think. The Cubs have pitchers/players that'll go back down in the minor league system with some great major league experiance under their belt.

 

2007 line:

 

JP

Soraino (Unnamed Veteran second baseman with good OBP)

D. Lee

C. Lee

Am Ram

Barrett

Isturis

J. Jones

(Pitcher)

 

Starting:

Zambo

Zito

Prior (yes?)

Unnamed innings eater pitcher (Wade Miller/Dempster?)

Hill, Mateo, Marshall other.

 

Pen:

Wood (closer?)

Eyre

Howry

Dempster (closer?)

Aardsma

Others

 

Bench:

Theriot

Murton

Cedano

Mabry

Unnamed Veteran(s)

 

The teams outlook isn't as bleak as people think it is. There are to many players this year that have had bad years that next years rebound year could have 4 or 5 guys that have career years. That wins baseballs games.

 

Injuries have played a factor in this years crap feast. It also exposed Dusty's weekness as a manager along with his staff. A good house cleaning is needed, but if resigned to 2 years with the above players signed anybody can do better next year so don't be supprized if Dusty returns with a better team to utillize and manage.

 

Once elimiated I hope the Marlins squeek in to the wild card. It's good looking team.

[hardcorecubfan]

Wait a minute, are you saying we still have a chance??? All we got to do is go on a tear for the rest of the season and everybody else lose. It can happen, that lady in NY won the million dollar scratch off twice. this is an appropriat place for a :roll:

[Scott G. F.]

Wait a minute, are you saying we still have a chance??? All we got to do is go on a tear for the rest of the season and everybody else lose. It can happen, that lady in NY won the million dollar scratch off twice. this is an appropriat place for a :roll:

 

Whom are you addressing?

[goonys evil twin]

I hope to never write one of those 0.500 at (fill in date) next year.

 

With Dusty 'possibly' gone. Hendry could build a good team for a couple years if he signs Zito, and another innings eating pitcher. Signs Soriano for second base, Signs Lee for LF. Resigns JP, extends Am Ram, and Zambrano. Cuts a deal with Wood for the pen.

 

This team doesn't look as bad for next year as people think. The Cubs have pitchers/players that'll go back down in the minor league system with some great major league experiance under their belt.

 

The teams outlook isn't as bleak as people think it is. There are to many players this year that have had bad years that next years rebound year could have 4 or 5 guys that have career years. That wins baseballs games.

 

Injuries have played a factor in this years crap feast. It also exposed Dusty's weekness as a manager along with his staff. A good house cleaning is needed, but if resigned to 2 years with the above players signed anybody can do better next year so don't be supprized if Dusty returns with a better team to utillize and manage.

 

Once elimiated I hope the Marlins squeek in to the wild card. It's good looking team.

 

Hello $150m payroll. Ain't going to happen. Contrary to your claim, there aren't a lot of players who had bad years, at least in terms of what was expected. Most Cubs players were either up to expectations, or exceeded them. The problem is that those expectations were so low to begin with, like with guys such as Pierre and Jones. If you want to do a lot of the things you suggest they do to make the team better, one of the first things they have to do is cut bait with Pierre. JP doesn't come close to justifying his salary. He's not productive. He's a one dimensional player with far too many flaws to be consider a must have.

[hardcorecubfan]

Wait a minute, are you saying we still have a chance??? All we got to do is go on a tear for the rest of the season and everybody else lose. It can happen, that lady in NY won the million dollar scratch off twice. this is an appropriat place for a :roll:

 

Whom are you addressing?

 

Hope springs eternal for the next 24 hours, I was speaking to all cubs fans, who are true optomists

[Scott G. F.]

I hope to never write one of those 0.500 at (fill in date) next year.

 

With Dusty 'possibly' gone. Hendry could build a good team for a couple years if he signs Zito, and another innings eating pitcher. Signs Soriano for second base, Signs Lee for LF. Resigns JP, extends Am Ram, and Zambrano. Cuts a deal with Wood for the pen.

 

This team doesn't look as bad for next year as people think. The Cubs have pitchers/players that'll go back down in the minor league system with some great major league experiance under their belt.

 

The teams outlook isn't as bleak as people think it is. There are to many players this year that have had bad years that next years rebound year could have 4 or 5 guys that have career years. That wins baseballs games.

 

Injuries have played a factor in this years crap feast. It also exposed Dusty's weekness as a manager along with his staff. A good house cleaning is needed, but if resigned to 2 years with the above players signed anybody can do better next year so don't be supprized if Dusty returns with a better team to utillize and manage.

 

Once elimiated I hope the Marlins squeek in to the wild card. It's good looking team.

 

Hello $150m payroll. Ain't going to happen. Contrary to your claim, there aren't a lot of players who had bad years, at least in terms of what was expected. Most Cubs players were either up to expectations, or exceeded them. The problem is that those expectations were so low to begin with, like with guys such as Pierre and Jones. If you want to do a lot of the things you suggest they do to make the team better, one of the first things they have to do is cut bait with Pierre. JP doesn't come close to justifying his salary. He's not productive. He's a one dimensional player with far too many flaws to be consider a must have.

 

Okay, so you have told everyone why you don't like JP but have yet to suggest his replacement. Wow easy critisim. Put your butt in the line of fire and make a suggestion so we can all rip it apart.

[goonys evil twin]

Okay, so you have told everyone why you don't like JP but have yet to suggest his replacement. Wow easy critisim. Put your butt in the line of fire and make a suggestion so we can all rip it apart.

 

Well, setting aside the ignorant tone of your post, my first suggestion, and one I've made a thousand times, would be to try Jones out there.

[Scott G. F.]

Okay, so you have told everyone why you don't like JP but have yet to suggest his replacement. Wow easy critisim. Put your butt in the line of fire and make a suggestion so we can all rip it apart.

 

Well, setting aside the ignorant tone of your post, my first suggestion, and one I've made a thousand times, would be to try Jones out there.

 

Sorry did I offend your overly sensitive nature sweety. Jones? Like as in Jacque Jones? Great suggestion....no....no really. I'd rather you said Pie but Jones is....you cannot be serious. Might as well get Lofton for a year.

 

In the defence of JP. Put him in the line-up suggested and he'll produce and have a great year. Jones will have a...er...a...a year just like this year if not worse. But on the bright side the Cubs strikout totals will be maintained.

Matthews Jr. would have been a better suggestion. Marion Jones would have been better.

[Guest]

I hope to never write one of those 0.500 at (fill in date) next year.

 

With Dusty 'possibly' gone. Hendry could build a good team for a couple years if he signs Zito, and another innings eating pitcher. Signs Soriano for second base, Signs Lee for LF. Resigns JP, extends Am Ram, and Zambrano. Cuts a deal with Wood for the pen.

 

This team doesn't look as bad for next year as people think. The Cubs have pitchers/players that'll go back down in the minor league system with some great major league experiance under their belt.

 

The teams outlook isn't as bleak as people think it is. There are to many players this year that have had bad years that next years rebound year could have 4 or 5 guys that have career years. That wins baseballs games.

 

Injuries have played a factor in this years crap feast. It also exposed Dusty's weekness as a manager along with his staff. A good house cleaning is needed, but if resigned to 2 years with the above players signed anybody can do better next year so don't be supprized if Dusty returns with a better team to utillize and manage.

 

Once elimiated I hope the Marlins squeek in to the wild card. It's good looking team.

 

Hello $150m payroll. Ain't going to happen. Contrary to your claim, there aren't a lot of players who had bad years, at least in terms of what was expected. Most Cubs players were either up to expectations, or exceeded them. The problem is that those expectations were so low to begin with, like with guys such as Pierre and Jones. If you want to do a lot of the things you suggest they do to make the team better, one of the first things they have to do is cut bait with Pierre. JP doesn't come close to justifying his salary. He's not productive. He's a one dimensional player with far too many flaws to be consider a must have.

 

 

Players to be replaced in order:

Cedeno

Izturis

Pierre

Murton

Jones

Barrett

Ramirez

Lee

 

Improvement at 2b is mandatory or you can write off next year right now. We can probably live with Izturis and Pierre if they get a high obp 2b and a bopper for LF.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think Jones would be a good choice in CF and would allow the Cubs to acquire a better bat for RF. Jones's throws, as bad as they are, are no worse than Pierre's.

[soccer10k]

I think Jones would be a good choice in CF and would allow the Cubs to acquire a better bat for RF. Jones's throws, as bad as they are, are no worse than Pierre's.

 

Plus then instead of two horrible outfield arms that have no chance of throwing a runner out we would only have one.

[goonys evil twin]

Okay, so you have told everyone why you don't like JP but have yet to suggest his replacement. Wow easy critisim. Put your butt in the line of fire and make a suggestion so we can all rip it apart.

 

Well, setting aside the ignorant tone of your post, my first suggestion, and one I've made a thousand times, would be to try Jones out there.

 

Sorry did I offend your overly sensitive nature sweety. Jones? Like as in Jacque Jones? Great suggestion....no....no really. I'd rather you said Pie but Jones is....you cannot be serious. Might as well get Lofton for a year.

 

In the defence of JP. Put him in the line-up suggested and he'll produce and have a great year. Jones will have a...er...a...a year just like this year if not worse. But on the bright side the Cubs strikout totals will be maintained.

Matthews Jr. would have been a better suggestion. Marion Jones would have been better.

 

Juan doesn't produce, why would the lineup change that? Strikeout totals are meaningless, what matters is OBP and SLG, that's what produces the big R, which is how you win baseball games, which is the point. Unless of course your goal is simply to field a team of stereotypes from a bygone era.

[Andy]

Okay, so you have told everyone why you don't like JP but have yet to suggest his replacement. Wow easy critisim. Put your butt in the line of fire and make a suggestion so we can all rip it apart.

 

Well, setting aside the ignorant tone of your post, my first suggestion, and one I've made a thousand times, would be to try Jones out there.

 

Sorry did I offend your overly sensitive nature sweety. Jones? Like as in Jacque Jones? Great suggestion....no....no really. I'd rather you said Pie but Jones is....you cannot be serious. Might as well get Lofton for a year.

 

In the defence of JP. Put him in the line-up suggested and he'll produce and have a great year. Jones will have a...er...a...a year just like this year if not worse. But on the bright side the Cubs strikout totals will be maintained.

Matthews Jr. would have been a better suggestion. Marion Jones would have been better.

 

Juan doesn't produce, why would the lineup change that? Strikeout totals are meaningless, what matters is OBP and SLG, that's what produces the big R, which is how you win baseball games, which is the point. Unless of course your goal is simply to field a team of stereotypes from a bygone era.

In addition to that, Matthews is a terrible idea. He is an absolute lock to be overpaid because of his "Web Gems" and his fluky season.

 

Jones in CF is a good idea...if only we could find a decent RF.

[Guest]

while I would like to improve on Pierre, he would not be my top priority. his .340-.350ish OBP isn't killing the cubs nearly as much as cedeno and izturis. plus, the rotation has to get substantially better. I would focus on those areas first. if need be, the cubs can play pie in CF and bat him 7th (if Izturis is on the team he has to bat 8th).

 

I would focus on a 2b and a corner outfielder. once you have those two in house, you can decide what to do in the outfield.

 

frankly, I don't see a good way to keep pierre out there though. I would definitely not want to give him more than a one year deal and I see no reason he would accept that.