Phillies after Pierre?

[NCCubFan]

PLAY PIE

Word.

No, that's two words. :D

[soapy]

PLAY PIE

Word.

No, that's two words. :D

okay, smarty :club:

[mg420]

doesnt look like pierre will be traded according tho these:

Courier Post Online:

"Rumors of Chicago's Juan Pierre soon joining the Phillies seem unlikely since general manager Pat Gillick said he doesn't expect any more moves until playoff rosters are set after Thursday's games. "

 

Tribune:

"The Cubs aren't interested in dealing Juan Pierre and have not spoken to Philadelphia or San Francisco, two teams looking for a center fielder for the stretch run."

 

imo, it will be up to juan if he wants to resign with the cubs. hendry will almost certainly offer him a multi year deal sometime in Sept.

[entbird79]

"Because those are so easy to find"

 

Mike Cameron, Gary Matthews Jr, a healthy Jim Edmonds all of which are free agents at the end of this season.

 

Why would you want any of them?

Because they're all miles ahead of Pierre?

 

In Salary?

 

And talent.

 

Taking what those 3 will likely make in FA, as well as the multi-year contracts they would demand I would play Pie at league minimum. I honestly don't think he will be that much worse than them and he can play center nearly as well as any of them right now. He will probably struggle, but he has shown the ability to adjust throughout his career.

 

If I was Hendry I would offer Pierre arbitration if he accepts you have him for one year and give Pie another half a year at AAA. If he declines you take the draft picks and put Soriano at 2B, with Pie in CF.

[RynoRules]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

[goonys evil twin]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point?

 

If you foolishly traded a lot for the guy, and are stuck in the middle ages when thinking about the game of baseball. And insist you must have a leadoff hitter who is fast and hit a lot in the leadoff department before. And you don't really care about the one stat that most proves the players lack of value. And you plan on signing the guy longterm. I can see why you wouldn't have any interest in trading Pierre.

[YearofDaCubs]

"Because those are so easy to find"

 

Mike Cameron, Gary Matthews Jr, a healthy Jim Edmonds all of which are free agents at the end of this season.

 

Why would you want any of them?

Because they're all miles ahead of Pierre?

 

In Salary?

 

And talent.

 

Taking what those 3 will likely make in FA, as well as the multi-year contracts they would demand I would play Pie at league minimum. I honestly don't think he will be that much worse than them and he can play center nearly as well as any of them right now. He will probably struggle, but he has shown the ability to adjust throughout his career.

 

If I was Hendry I would offer Pierre arbitration if he accepts you have him for one year and give Pie another half a year at AAA. If he declines you take the draft picks and put Soriano at 2B, with Pie in CF.

Agreed.

[neely crenshaw]

listen unless we are going to make some serious moves like getting soriano..does ut really matter who plays in center?

hendry has shown no interest in doing this so just sit back and get ready for more middle of teh road fixes like burnitz and jones

[Cubzfan64]

listen unless we are going to make some serious moves like getting soriano..does ut really matter who plays in center?

hendry has shown no interest in doing this so just sit back and get ready for more middle of teh road fixes like burnitz and jones

 

I absolutely agree with you - I've seen nothing to prove to me that this organization "get's it" yet. I have every reason to believe they are going to sign Pierre to a 2-3 year contract which I think is a mistake and I'm virtually positive that the organization thinks highly of Izturis and plans for him to be our everyday SS.

 

The direction this organization has taken to try to build a contending ballclub is frustrating and depressing. Then when you look at the standings and realize that even a halfway decent team has a good chance of getting a wildcard berth and at least a shot at a WS makes it even that much more sickening that we can't even accomplish that.

[Guest]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

because I'd rather have two draft picks than a b-level prospect.

[David]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

because I'd rather have two draft picks than a b-level prospect.

 

Even considering the way this organization is operated?

 

I'd think either option is just as worthless.

[Guest]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

because I'd rather have two draft picks than a b-level prospect.

 

Even considering the way this organization is operated?

 

I'd think either option is just as worthless.

Throw enough darts and you'll eventually hit a bulls-eye...even if you're throwing blind-folded!

 

 

(of course, you might injure a few people along the way)

[goonys evil twin]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

because I'd rather have two draft picks than a b-level prospect.

 

Even considering the way this organization is operated?

 

I'd think either option is just as worthless.

Throw enough darts and you'll eventually hit a bulls-eye...even if you're throwing blind-folded!

 

 

(of course, you might injure a few people along the way)

 

You might hit the board, but there's no guarantee you'll hit a bulls eye.

[Banedon]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

because I'd rather have two draft picks than a b-level prospect.

 

Even considering the way this organization is operated?

 

I'd think either option is just as worthless.

Throw enough darts and you'll eventually hit a bulls-eye...even if you're throwing blind-folded!

 

 

(of course, you might injure a few people along the way)

 

You might hit the board, but there's no guarantee you'll hit a bulls eye.

 

And you still have to recognize that it's a bulls-eye once you have it.

[Guest]

Dear G-d, why wouldn't you be interested in dealing Pierre at his point? Its nearly 9/1 - just call up Pie for a look and let Juan play out the string with a contender. If you deal him in the next 48 hrs he can be on someone's playoff roster, and may be we can get a B-level prospect for him. Sheesh.

because I'd rather have two draft picks than a b-level prospect.

 

Even considering the way this organization is operated?

 

I'd think either option is just as worthless.

Throw enough darts and you'll eventually hit a bulls-eye...even if you're throwing blind-folded!

 

 

(of course, you might injure a few people along the way)

 

You might hit the board, but there's no guarantee you'll hit a bulls eye.

Throw enough darts, you'll hit the bulls-eye eventually.

[Jon]

While the best case scenario is Pierre staying, being offered arbitration, gets classified as a Type A, and turns it down to sign with another team, a trade would most likely mean that Hendry is not going to pursue a new contract for him. From a fan perspective, it would be a little more comforting for the latter to happen going into the offseason.

[Guest]

While the best case scenario is Pierre staying, being offered arbitration, gets classified as a Type A, and turns it down to sign with another team, a trade would most likely mean that Hendry is not going to pursue a new contract for him. From a fan perspective, it would be a little more comforting for the latter to happen going into the offseason.

I'd be worried that Hendry would still try to sign him and give up the draft picks to do so! :)

[UK1679666180]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spken204858770aug20,0,1221190.column?page=2&coll=ny-sports-print

 

http://www.maurybrown.com/?p=333

 

Ken Davidoff of Newsday reported just over a week ago that teams may no longer receive draft picks as compensation for free agents who leave as part of the upcoming CBA.

 

Now comes word through sources that all the clubs have been notified that this indeed will be the case as both the Players Association and MLB have come to terms on the matter.

 

This would explain, in part, why Alfonso Soriano and Carlos Lee have been on the trading block. Both the Nationals and Rangers have been hot to try and get something for these two players before free agency forces both clubs to possibly walk away without anything for these two top players that were not dealt at the trading deadline.

Stay tuned.

[radarluv1]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spken204858770aug20,0,1221190.column?page=2&coll=ny-sports-print

 

http://www.maurybrown.com/?p=333

 

Ken Davidoff of Newsday reported just over a week ago that teams may no longer receive draft picks as compensation for free agents who leave as part of the upcoming CBA.

 

Now comes word through sources that all the clubs have been notified that this indeed will be the case as both the Players Association and MLB have come to terms on the matter.

 

This would explain, in part, why Alfonso Soriano and Carlos Lee have been on the trading block. Both the Nationals and Rangers have been hot to try and get something for these two players before free agency forces both clubs to possibly walk away without anything for these two top players that were not dealt at the trading deadline.

Stay tuned.

 

great. this should've happened last year.

[Mark Priors Calves]

Of course, the Cubs have been losing picks because of aggressive free agent signings, now they might actually benefit from the rule and it get changed.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spken204858770aug20,0,1221190.column?page=2&coll=ny-sports-print

 

http://www.maurybrown.com/?p=333

 

Ken Davidoff of Newsday reported just over a week ago that teams may no longer receive draft picks as compensation for free agents who leave as part of the upcoming CBA.

 

Now comes word through sources that all the clubs have been notified that this indeed will be the case as both the Players Association and MLB have come to terms on the matter.

 

This would explain, in part, why Alfonso Soriano and Carlos Lee have been on the trading block. Both the Nationals and Rangers have been hot to try and get something for these two players before free agency forces both clubs to possibly walk away without anything for these two top players that were not dealt at the trading deadline.

Stay tuned.

 

Poop. :(

 

Trade Pierre.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Whelp, there goes the positive parts of letting guys like Pierre and Ramirez walk. This stinks.

[Drew Doughty]

to be fair, the compensation thing isn't a done deal. Jim Callis said he won't believe it until it actually comes to pass in the offseason.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Whelp, there goes the positive parts of letting guys like Pierre and Ramirez walk. This stinks.

 

There are other positives about letting Pierre go.

 

Point taken, lawl.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

All in all, removing the draft pick compensation will likely in the long term turn out to be more beneficial to the Cubs than harmful. In this particular offseason with the impending free agency of Pierre and Ramirez, it could not be so...but the Cubs are usually active in free agency. This will lessen the blow when the Cubs sign the Howry/Eyre types like they have in the past.

 

This will also expedite some free agent signings, as teams won't have to wait to see if another team offers arbitration before trying to sign that player.

 

I'm more upset that this rule change is coming a year too late. It would have been nice to have those round 2-4 picks this year.