40 Man Roster Decisions

[Tim]

I've been too busy to compile my annual look at the upcoming 40 man rostering decisions. Anyone else want to take a shot? I'd love to see the list of players that are going to require protection this season.

[Mephistopheles]

Arizona Phil / The Cub Reporter[/url]"]Thomas Atlee, RHP (AA)

Federico Baez, RHP (AA – 6Y MLFA after 2007)

Justin Berg, RHP (Daytona)

Oscar Bernard, RHP (Mesa - 6Y MLFA after 2007)

Ryan Bicondoa, RHP (Daytona)

Todd Blackford, RHP (Peoria)

* Chadd Blasko, RHP

Jerry Blevins, LHP (Boise)

Bobby Brownlie, RHP (AA)

Edward Campusano, LHP (AA)

* Jose Caridad, RHP

Rocky Cherry, RHP (DL - AAA)

Robinson Chirinos, 2B (Peoria - 6Y MLFA after 2007)

Matt Ciaramella, OF (Daytona)

Matt Craig, 1B (Daytona)

Darin Downs, LHP (Boise)

Mike Fontenot, 2B (AAA)

Jake Fox, C (AA)

Alfredo Francisco, RHP (Boise)

Sam Fuld, OF (DL - Daytona)

Alberto Garcia, 1B-OF (Peoria)

* Lee Gwaltney, RHP

* Luke Hagerty, LHP

Ryan Harvey, OF (Daytona)

Lincoln Holdzkom, RHP (AA - 6Y MLFA after 2007)

Micah Hoffpauir, 1B (AAA)

Jesse Hoorelbeke, 1B (AAA)

Jonathan Hunton, RHP (Daytona)

Fabian Jimenez-Angulo, LHP (Peoria)

Scott Koerber, LHP (Peoria)

Tim Layden, LHP (Daytona)

Richard Lewis, 2B (AA - 6Y MLFA after 2007)

* Dary Maria, RHP

J. R. Mathes, LHP (AA)

* Zach McCormack, LHP

Casey McGehee, 3B (AAA)

Adalberto Mendez, RHP (AA)

Ryan Norwood, 1B (Peoria)

Isaac Pavlik, LHP (AA)

Leonel Perez, RHP (Mesa)

Billy Petrick, RHP (DL - Daytona)

Jose Pina, RHP (Boise)

Elvin Puello, 3B (Boise)

* Robert Ransom, RHP

Clay Rapada, LHP (AAA)

Tony Richie, C (AA)

Alan Rick, C (Daytona)

Carlos Rojas, SS (AA - 6Y MLFA after 2007)

Issmael Salas, INF (Daytona - 6Y MLFA after 2007)

Joel Santo, RHP (Peoria)

Paul Schappert, LHP (Daytona)

Chris Shaver, LHP (AA)

Andy Shipman, RHP (AAA)

Jemel Spearman, IF-OF (Daytona)

Nate Spears, 2B (Daytona)

Jesus Valdez, OF (Peoria)

Chris Walker, OF (AA)

Randy Wells, RHP (AAA)

Olin Wick, C (Daytona)

Jesus Yepez, LHP (Peoria)

[Guest]

Arizona Phil / The Cub Reporter[/url]"]

Jake Fox, C (AA)

Ryan Harvey, OF (Daytona)

Billy Petrick, RHP (DL - Daytona)

Thanks!

 

There are plenty of guys on that list that need consideration, but the above three are the ones I'm most concerned about.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Nice list.

 

Definitely got to protect Jake Fox, Billy Petrick and Randy Wells. The Cubs will probably look to protect one of Shaver/Mathes and Harvey too.

[Mephistopheles]

If Clay Rapada starts off solid in the AFL I don't see how they can leave him off.

[Brian]

Arizona Phil / The Cub Reporter[/url]"]

Jake Fox, C (AA)

Ryan Harvey, OF (Daytona)

Billy Petrick, RHP (DL - Daytona)

Thanks!

 

There are plenty of guys on that list that need consideration, but the above three are the ones I'm most concerned about.

 

Did you just miss Wells or not concerned about him? He's the most ML Ready of the list, and the easiest to hide on a roster (imo).

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Fuld and Holdzkom??

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Poor Mike Fontenot

[Laura]

Poor Mike Fontenot

 

Is he injured?

 

ETA: I realize you meant his roster situation and that he's unlikely to get the roster nod, but I was wondering because I hadn't heard either way.

[Guest]

Arizona Phil / The Cub Reporter[/url]"]

Jake Fox, C (AA)

Ryan Harvey, OF (Daytona)

Billy Petrick, RHP (DL - Daytona)

Thanks!

There are plenty of guys on that list that need consideration, but the above three are the ones I'm most concerned about.

 

Did you just miss Wells or not concerned about him? He's the most ML Ready of the list, and the easiest to hide on a roster (imo).

I didn't miss him and I do want to keep him. But the three I picked were the ones that I'm most concerned about protecting. Wells is probably next on the list.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Poor Mike Fontenot

 

Is he injured?

 

ETA: I realize you meant his roster situation and that he's unlikely to get the roster nod, but I was wondering because I hadn't heard either way.

 

I have to think something's wrong with him. He was out of the lineup for several days, and then EPatt got promoted.

[rawaction]

Arizona Phil / The Cub Reporter[/url]"]

Jake Fox, C (AA)

Ryan Harvey, OF (Daytona)

Billy Petrick, RHP (DL - Daytona)

Thanks!

There are plenty of guys on that list that need consideration, but the above three are the ones I'm most concerned about.

 

Did you just miss Wells or not concerned about him? He's the most ML Ready of the list, and the easiest to hide on a roster (imo).

I didn't miss him and I do want to keep him. But the three I picked were the ones that I'm most concerned about protecting. Wells is probably next on the list.

 

I agree. Those are the biggest concerns. And yes, I know that Harvey isn't close to being ready.....but neither was Sisco. Next would be Wells and Rapada.

[TruffleShuffle]

If you leave Harvey off, I can't imagine a team being able to stash him away on their bench for an entire season. I don't think Petrick is highly regarded enough to be taken and stashed away. Fox, on the other hand, I could see sticking with a bad team.

[CubsWin]

If you leave Harvey off, I can't imagine a team being able to stash him away on their bench for an entire season. I don't think Petrick is highly regarded enough to be taken and stashed away. Fox, on the other hand, I could see sticking with a bad team.

I agree. It would be pretty unlikely that someone takes Harvey or Petrick. Harvey has a high enough upside that the Royals, and only the Royals might take him. But is it worth starting his option clock to protect against the slight chance that the Royals try to stash him on their bench for a year?

[Outshined_One]

If you leave Harvey off, I can't imagine a team being able to stash him away on their bench for an entire season. I don't think Petrick is highly regarded enough to be taken and stashed away. Fox, on the other hand, I could see sticking with a bad team.

I agree. It would be pretty unlikely that someone takes Harvey or Petrick. Harvey has a high enough upside that the Royals, and only the Royals might take him. But is it worth starting his option clock to protect against the slight chance that the Royals try to stash him on their bench for a year?

 

Andy Sisco says hi.

[Bruno7481]

If you leave Harvey off, I can't imagine a team being able to stash him away on their bench for an entire season. I don't think Petrick is highly regarded enough to be taken and stashed away. Fox, on the other hand, I could see sticking with a bad team.

I agree. It would be pretty unlikely that someone takes Harvey or Petrick. Harvey has a high enough upside that the Royals, and only the Royals might take him. But is it worth starting his option clock to protect against the slight chance that the Royals try to stash him on their bench for a year?

 

Andy Sisco says hi.

 

Andy also says "what the hell happened this year".

 

:)

[CubsWin]

If you leave Harvey off, I can't imagine a team being able to stash him away on their bench for an entire season. I don't think Petrick is highly regarded enough to be taken and stashed away. Fox, on the other hand, I could see sticking with a bad team.

I agree. It would be pretty unlikely that someone takes Harvey or Petrick. Harvey has a high enough upside that the Royals, and only the Royals might take him. But is it worth starting his option clock to protect against the slight chance that the Royals try to stash him on their bench for a year?

 

Andy Sisco says hi.

Yeah, I remember Andy Sisco.

 

But seriously, do you really think the Royals would take Harvey?

[Outshined_One]

Andy also says "what the hell happened this year".

 

:)

 

Pretty much the worst that could happen to him. The Royals were clearly hell-bent on keeping him as a reliever for whatever bizarre reason. Problem is, he needed to get his WHIP and weight in line...and was 100 times more valuable in a starting role.

 

Why they didn't start him in the minors this season with the intent of making him a starter is anyone's guess. His peripherals last year were decidedly flukey despite the 3.11 ERA and 9.08 K/9.

[wilk]

What kind of contract did Sam Fuld get in June 2004? Since he didn't play at all that year, I don't think he's eligible for the Rule 5 draft until after next year.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Arizona Phil made his predictions of who'd get protected:

 

The Cub Reporter[/url]"]Rocky Cherry RHP

Jake Fox C

Ryan Harvey OF

Lincoln Holdzkom RHP

Clay Rapada LHP

Chris Shaver LHP

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Rocky Cherry?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Rocky Cherry?

 

Before he hurt his finger in July, it looked like he would be added to the 40-man and promoted to the Cubs' pen.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Rocky Cherry?

 

Before he hurt his finger in July, it looked like he would be added to the 40-man and promoted to the Cubs' pen.

 

Still, he was born in the 70's. Are teams really going to be knocking down the door to take him? Why not just wait to see how the offseason unfolds?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Rocky Cherry?

 

Before he hurt his finger in July, it looked like he would be added to the 40-man and promoted to the Cubs' pen.

 

Still, he was born in the 70's. Are teams really going to be knocking down the door to take him? Why not just wait to see how the offseason unfolds?

 

Except for the unnecessary jab at people born in the 70s, I agree.

[ChiefsVoice]

guess they wont have to make a decision on harvey or fuld....according to Baseball America on the new CBA:

 

The first-year player draft, also known as the Rule 4 draft, was not the only draft process altered by the new CBA. The major league portion of the Rule 5 draft will be affected by giving teams one extra year to protect players from it.

 

Rather than teams being allowed three years (for players signed at age 19 or older) or four years (for players 18 and younger) before leaving them off the 40-man roster subjects them to the Rule 5 draft, those periods have been lengthened to four and five. Ownership considered this a significant boost in their efforts to operate their minor league systems more effectively.

 

"It gives the clubs more flexibility with their roster," said MacPhail, who added that the cost to select a player ($50,000) or get him back from the selecting club ($25,000) remain the same.

 

"Anytime you can give them more tools to operate as efficiently as they possibly can is something we strive to do," he continued. "There are a lot of kids at that stage where you’re just not quite sure whether you want to get that clock ticking--the last thing you want to do is take a talented 22-year-old kid who’s not ready and you develop him for somebody else. Or often you’ll see guys taken out of A-ball who aren’t close but they get plucked out of the Midwest League. You try to let the developing clubs get as much time as they possibly can to make the best decisions they can."

 

This rule applies to this current offseason, meaning that many minor league players who had expected to either be placed on the 40-man roster or be subject to the Rule 5 draft will have to wait another year. The union did negotiate a higher minimum salary for 40-man roster players optioned to the minor leagues ($60,000 next year), but acknowledged that this was a significant concession to ownership.

 

"That was one of the major things we had to give up, no question about it--to me it was the worst thing we had to give up," said Diamondbacks infielder Craig Counsell, a player representative to the union negotiating team. "Some players, especially immediately, are going to be hurt by that--this year. But in the end, you have to give up something to get something."[/b]