The Soccer Thread

[wolf stansson]

Bradley would be my top choice but I don't think he's interested.

[USSoccer]

Bradley would be my top choice but I don't think he's interested.

 

My guess is that so long as Sunil is Fed President neither he or Arena would ever come back to the NT. Both guys reaaaaaallly hate Gulati. A lot.

[wolf stansson]

They should! They both got fired at the right time in their regimes, but they both had to look at the the Klinsmann posters all over Sunil's office walls almost the entire time they coached.

[biittner77]

This reminds me a lot of the last days of Don Baylor; a lot of people were excited when he was hired but he turned out to be a disaster. Given your choice of available/ interested candidates, who would you want? How desirable is the USNT job as compared to say the bottom half of BPL? I'll hang up and listen.

[USSoccer]

This reminds me a lot of the last days of Don Baylor; a lot of people were excited when he was hired but he turned out to be a disaster. Given your choice of available/ interested candidates, who would you want? How desirable is the USNT job as compared to say the bottom half of BPL? I'll hang up and listen.

 

Assuming if JK goes Sunil goes (which should happen since Sunil bet the house on his monorail salesman), I'd hire Arena.

[wolf stansson]

My coaching wish list is on the last page, but this is all pointless. Nobody is getting fired or resigning.

 

The US job is less desirable than the bottom half of the EPL except to maybe older coaches who are looking for stability and have less ambition.

[biittner77]

My coaching wish list is on the last page, but this is all pointless. Nobody is getting fired or resigning.

 

The US job is less desirable than the bottom half of the EPL except to maybe older coaches who are looking for stability and have less ambition.

 

I was hoping that an up and coming guy might see it as an opportunity to make a name for himself. The rest of the world doesn't have a real healthy respect for the US so if you could win there, wouldn't it turn a lot of heads? Or has the US already made enough progress/ earned enough respect abroad that he'd have to reach the cup final or something for anyone to care?

[wolf stansson]

My coaching wish list is on the last page, but this is all pointless. Nobody is getting fired or resigning.

 

The US job is less desirable than the bottom half of the EPL except to maybe older coaches who are looking for stability and have less ambition.

 

I was hoping that an up and coming guy might see it as an opportunity to make a name for himself. The rest of the world doesn't have a real healthy respect for the US so if you could win there, wouldn't it turn a lot of heads? Or has the US already made enough progress/ earned enough respect abroad that he'd have to reach the cup final or something for anyone to care?

I think you've got it wrong here.

 

Like I said on the last page, foreign managers have a hard time navigating the weirdness of the US Soccer set up. MLS, the youth system etc. All very different than the environments they learned in, so it's probably better to go domestic. We have underrated coaches who know the player pool and understand the system. On the brink of World Cup qualification, we don't have time to integrate someone with no clue. We need results.

 

That said, there are plenty of pedigree'd guys that would take the job if they don't have one. Like Guus Hiddink. A guy like Roberto Martinez would probably take the job if he got fired from Everton, but he wouldn't leave Everton to take it.

 

Guys like Mourinho and Guardiola have talked about being intrigued by the job down the road. It's not really a matter of prestige. It's very attractive. They have money to spend and the pressure is minimal. They get to live in America. The needle is steadily pointing up on the level of talent. Being a national team coach isn't where ambitious guys coach. There aren't many games and you're only really tested every four years. Being willing to wait four years to prove yourself and get noticed for big club jobs isn't on the agenda of an up and comer. Has nothing to do with the perception or relative prestige of the US job.

[biittner77]

Thanks, that makes sense.

[wolf stansson]

Jurgen fires Hugo Perez, the universally respected manager and former U.S. International who had our u-17's playing the kind of success Jurgen promised when he was hired.

 

Jurgen replaces him with yes man Richie Williams who has who failed once already in the national setup.

 

U-17's get steam rolled out of the world cup getting dominated in every statistical category.

 

 

I don't know what's worse as a huge US fan, the losing or the millions of hot takes it spawns on both sides of the Jurgen aisle

[USSoccer]

Im going to use a word I truly hate and try never to use, but Jurgen's behavior in the last 2 weeks has been nothing short of pathetic.

 

Someone from ASN wrote that stupid, fawning article here http://www.americansoccernow.com/articles/a-tale-of-two-klinsmanns-technical-director-and-coach

 

And this clown ass retweets it with this:

 

 

I think it's pathetic for a professional manager to retweet a positive article about himself. Its an embarrassment to the program to go along with the failures at the U17, U20, U23 and senior levels under his watch as manager and "Technical Director".

 

At this point, though, I blame Sunil a lot more than Jurgen. Sunil can end this any time he wants but apparently he's going to hold onto his crush until the bitter end. Jurgen's clearly a guy who, at best, has ideas and concepts that he has no idea how to implement.

 

Oh also LOLChelsea.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why does this Sunil guy have his job?

[wolf stansson]

Why does this Sunil guy have his job?

Because it's an elected position and USSF is an airtight, insular organization.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/03/17/12/49/140301-sunilgulati-reelected-ussf-pres

 

He's theoretically doing important work as one of the only seemingly clean FIFA Executive Committee members. He's clearly an excellent bureaucrat to have climbed so high in these closed systems without picking up a whiff of corruption. I don't know that he's done a poor job other than his fascination with JK.

[USSoccer]

Other than his JK fetish he's been a good administrator. Unfortunately for him the men's senior NT is the most important part of his job...

 

I want Ethan Finlay on the NT now. Unfortunately we have a complete idiot in charge.

[Rex Buckingham]

Dream scenario, you pry Earnie Stewart away from AZ and make him technical director. Build the rest from there. That'd be tough for him to walk away from/into. I would love for him, a guy who knows the American system and the Dutch system inside and out, to figure out the best of both worlds over the next decade.

With his proven track record in the front office & on the field, Earnie Stewart is a great hire as sporting director for Philadelphia.

well, looks like Stewart is headed to Philly to be the Union Sporting Director.

 

http://sbisoccer.com/2015/10/union-hire-earnie-stewart-as-sporting-director

[USSoccer]

Dream scenario, you pry Earnie Stewart away from AZ and make him technical director. Build the rest from there. That'd be tough for him to walk away from/into. I would love for him, a guy who knows the American system and the Dutch system inside and out, to figure out the best of both worlds over the next decade.

With his proven track record in the front office & on the field, Earnie Stewart is a great hire as sporting director for Philadelphia.

well, looks like Stewart is headed to Philly to be the Union Sporting Director.

 

http://sbisoccer.com/2015/10/union-hire-earnie-stewart-as-sporting-director

 

Thats a great get for Philly and the league. Earnie knows his [expletive].

[wolf stansson]

WOW. That's an incredible get. Good for Philly, who has low key done some cool stuff with their youth setup. They have an accredited charter high school for their academy kids that shapes the schedule around soccer. They're the first to do that.

[shnsajax]

Finally, Sepp looks like he is starting to crack.

 

http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2015/10/28/blatter-2022-world-cup-meant-to-be-in-usa-attacks-platini-wants-return/

[Banedon]

Abby Wambach retiring at the end of the year.

[bukie]

What a goal from Agudelo in the DC-NE game.

[USSoccer]

Mark Geiger has gone from our best ref to our worst in the span of 18 months

[shnsajax]

What the hell. 1-1 after 6 minutes.

[shnsajax]

2-2 after 22.

[wolf stansson]

This game is wild.

[Guest]

I don't have audio, why did Ivanschitz's goal get pulled back? I presume because the side official had the flag up? But if that's it, why was the flag up? Dempsey didn't look offside in the replays I saw.