Will Ozzie please SHUT UP!!!??

[CubsBullsBears]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

[Drew Doughty]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That's ridiculous. If Padilla hits anybody he will be ejected and that will probably be the end of that. Unless of course there's a brawl or something in which case it would be wildly amusing to see someone punch Buehrle in the face.

 

Ozzie said himself: If Padilla doesn't do anything then he isn't going to do anything. I dont' get what the big deal is.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

There it is right there. That's why.

[CubsBullsBears]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That's ridiculous. If Padilla hits anybody he will be ejected and that will probably be the end of that. Unless of course there's a brawl or something in which case it would be wildly amusing to see someone punch Buehrle in the face.

 

Ozzie said himself: If Padilla doesn't do anything then he isn't going to do anything. I dont' get what the big deal is.

The fact that he said if Padilla hits a batter, he will deliberatly hit a Texas batter.

[RationalSoxFan]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That's ridiculous. If Padilla hits anybody he will be ejected and that will probably be the end of that. Unless of course there's a brawl or something in which case it would be wildly amusing to see someone punch Buehrle in the face.

 

Ozzie said himself: If Padilla doesn't do anything then he isn't going to do anything. I dont' get what the big deal is.

The fact that he said if Padilla hits a batter, he will deliberatly hit a Texas batter.

Seriously, what do you not understand? If Padilla hits a White Sox batter intentionally, for the third time this year mind you, the White Sox will retaliate. This is called stating the obvious. If a pitcher repeatedly beans the same team, any manager in all of baseball would retaliate.

[Flames24Rulz]

Why the heck wouldn't the Sox retaliate? I really don't blame them if they would. It seems Padilla is Showalter's hired gun to carry out his problems with Ozzie, but I don't see anyone getting on Showalter's case. Hitting Pierzynski intentionally in 2 straight AB's, for absolutely no reason besides a stupid managerial grudge, is bush league IMO. I really don't blame the Sox if they retaliate, that is IF, Padilla hits another batter.

[soccer10k]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That is absolutely ludicrous. So if Zambrano said he was going to drill Edmonds, went through with it, and injured Edmonds, would you be in favor of MLB suspending DLee for the rest of the year? And, just to make it more realistic, assume the Cubs are actually in contention because this year it wouldn't matter if Lee was suspended.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

That is absolutely ludicrous. So if Zambrano said he was going to drill Edmonds, went through with it, and injured Edmonds, would you be in favor of MLB suspending DLee for the rest of the year? And, just to make it more realistic, assume the Cubs are actually in contention because this year it wouldn't matter if Lee was suspended.

 

No cos their the rutardinals so we shoudl suspend edmond for beeing int he box and poojoles cuz he Sox

[TruffleShuffle]

Back when I played, baseball wasn't like this. If you were mad about something, you did something about it. Michael Barrett didn't like what A.J. did and hit him. I didn't see anything wrong with that.

 

I guess Ozzie was probably ok with Juan Marichal turning around and cold-cocking John Roseboro with his bat?

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Back when I played, baseball wasn't like this. If you were mad about something, you did something about it. Michael Barrett didn't like what A.J. did and hit him. I didn't see anything wrong with that.

 

I guess Ozzie was probably ok with Juan Marichal turning around and cold-cocking John Roseboro with his bat?

 

Here's a great one.....

 

In 1932, Yankees catcher Bill Dickey slugged Washington Senator Carl Reynolds in the mouth after colliding at the plate. Reynolds thought it was a clean play and was dusting himself off when Dickey slugged him. Reynold's jaw was broken in two places.

 

Dickey was suspended indefinitely. Which meant he was suspended as long as Reynolds would be out due to the injury. All in all, each player missed 6 weeks of action.

 

Interestingly, Reynolds had to have his jaw wired in order for it to heal correctly. He almost died when he choked on his own vomit. Luckily, there was a pair of scissors in reach and he was able to cut through the wire.

[SouthSideRyan]

The real question is will recent AAA recallee Sean Tracey be the one to do it?

[Andy]

I don't think anyone has attacked CBB. They have attacked his ideas. They have attacked his viewpoint quite well, and often have used satire and sarcasm to do so. Has anyone attacked him personally? No. I don't think so.

QFT. I don't think that many posts here attacking CBB's views, if any at all, crossed the line.

[CubsBullsBears]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That's ridiculous. If Padilla hits anybody he will be ejected and that will probably be the end of that. Unless of course there's a brawl or something in which case it would be wildly amusing to see someone punch Buehrle in the face.

 

Ozzie said himself: If Padilla doesn't do anything then he isn't going to do anything. I dont' get what the big deal is.

The fact that he said if Padilla hits a batter, he will deliberatly hit a Texas batter.

Seriously, what do you not understand? If Padilla hits a White Sox batter intentionally, for the third time this year mind you, the White Sox will retaliate. This is called stating the obvious. If a pitcher repeatedly beans the same team, any manager in all of baseball would retaliate.

The fact that Ozzie is throwing this out there. You're going to retaliate, fine. But don't announce it to the whole world. Geez. You'd think after the Mariotti episode, he'd shut up.

[RationalSoxFan]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That's ridiculous. If Padilla hits anybody he will be ejected and that will probably be the end of that. Unless of course there's a brawl or something in which case it would be wildly amusing to see someone punch Buehrle in the face.

 

Ozzie said himself: If Padilla doesn't do anything then he isn't going to do anything. I dont' get what the big deal is.

The fact that he said if Padilla hits a batter, he will deliberatly hit a Texas batter.

Seriously, what do you not understand? If Padilla hits a White Sox batter intentionally, for the third time this year mind you, the White Sox will retaliate. This is called stating the obvious. If a pitcher repeatedly beans the same team, any manager in all of baseball would retaliate.

The fact that Ozzie is throwing this out there. You're going to retaliate, fine. But don't announce it to the whole world. Geez. You'd think after the Mariotti episode, he'd shut up.

This is absolutely ridiculous. You would laud any other manager that stuck up for his players like that. Ozzie says some awful, over the top things, but he's just stating fact.

 

In your opinion, who's wrong here, Padilla or Ozzie?

[CubsBullsBears]

Another thing MLB needs to do: If Ozzie actually does execute his threat, not only does he need to be suspended, but should the guy he orders to be drilled be lost for an extended time, MLB needs to find some way of making the Sox pay, oh, maybe suspend Jim Thome until the injured guy comes back (not that it's Jim's fault, but it'd only be fair to make up for taking out a hitter)

 

That's ridiculous. If Padilla hits anybody he will be ejected and that will probably be the end of that. Unless of course there's a brawl or something in which case it would be wildly amusing to see someone punch Buehrle in the face.

 

Ozzie said himself: If Padilla doesn't do anything then he isn't going to do anything. I dont' get what the big deal is.

The fact that he said if Padilla hits a batter, he will deliberatly hit a Texas batter.

Seriously, what do you not understand? If Padilla hits a White Sox batter intentionally, for the third time this year mind you, the White Sox will retaliate. This is called stating the obvious. If a pitcher repeatedly beans the same team, any manager in all of baseball would retaliate.

The fact that Ozzie is throwing this out there. You're going to retaliate, fine. But don't announce it to the whole world. Geez. You'd think after the Mariotti episode, he'd shut up.

This is absolutely ridiculous. You would laud any other manager that stuck up for his players like that. Ozzie says some awful, over the top things, but he's just stating fact.

 

In your opinion, who's wrong here, Padilla or Ozzie?

Both. Ozzie wants to retailiate, fine. But don't go around telling everyone. You're just adding fuel to the fire. Maybe Buck will be motivated by the comments and Padilla will hit someone just to challenge Ozzie. Now Ozzie can't win, say Padilla hits someone.

[Illini Iceman]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-060723soxgamer,1,3673782.story?coll=cs-whitesox-headlines

 

"He might not have hit [Cintron] on purpose, but I'm a man of my word," Guillen said. "I said if something happened, we would return it. Unfortunately, Garland missed [Kinsler] a couple of times, and that's not enough.

 

I haven't heard about any penalty coming so I guess MLB is OK with managers ordering pitchers to throw at opposing hitters.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-060723soxgamer,1,3673782.story?coll=cs-whitesox-headlines

 

"He might not have hit [Cintron] on purpose, but I'm a man of my word," Guillen said. "I said if something happened, we would return it. Unfortunately, Garland missed [Kinsler] a couple of times, and that's not enough.

 

I haven't heard about any penalty coming so I guess MLB is OK with managers ordering pitchers to throw at opposing hitters.

 

On ESPN news, Buster Olney questioned Guillen's handling of the situation and believes a suspension is possible.

 

That being said MLB usually takes a few days before taking action. I'd be very shocked if they just let that slide.

[baseball7897]

Why the heck wouldn't the Sox retaliate? I really don't blame them if they would. It seems Padilla is Showalter's hired gun to carry out his problems with Ozzie, but I don't see anyone getting on Showalter's case. Hitting Pierzynski intentionally in 2 straight AB's, for absolutely no reason besides a stupid managerial grudge, is bush league IMO. I really don't blame the Sox if they retaliate, that is IF, Padilla hits another batter.

 

I'm not sure the Sox can retaliate. Since they have failed twice now.

[CubsBullsBears]

That's it. Ozzie needs a long suspension.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

That's it. Ozzie needs a long suspension.

 

What about Padilla?

[CubsBullsBears]

That's it. Ozzie needs a long suspension.

 

What about Padilla?

It wasn't intentional. It's a collection of things. Saying in the papers he was going to do it, and being pissed that Garland did not carry out orders to bean someone, it shows me he had intentions of hitting a batter, and that is unaccepatble.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

That's it. Ozzie needs a long suspension.

 

What about Padilla?

It wasn't intentional. It's a collection of things. Saying in the papers he was going to do it, and being pissed that Garland did not carry out orders to bean someone, it shows me he had intentions of hitting a batter, and that is unaccepatble.

 

I'm not debating a possible Guillen suspension. I was only asking about Padilla.

 

Padilla hit 3 White Sox batters. At both times he had good control.

[CubsBullsBears]

^ Padilla no, b/c that was not intentional.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

^ Padilla no, b/c that was not intentional.

 

Once again......

 

Padilla hit 3 White Sox batters. At both times he had good control.

 

How do you know it wasn't intentional? How can you even say that in all certainty?

[Flames24Rulz]

^ Padilla no, b/c that was not intentional.

 

Once again......

 

Padilla hit 3 White Sox batters. At both times he had good control.

 

How do you know it wasn't intentional? How can you even say that in all certainty?

 

Plus all 3 pitches were fastballs. It surely wasn't just a coincidence.