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Pie? Jeebers.

 

Maybe that means Pierre is out the door.

 

Who cares. Do you really think that even if we aquire a good prospect that we'll do anything with him?

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I don't think that Hendry's comment was as bad as you guys are making it out to be. He said you still have to hit, you can't just go up there hoping to walk for an entire year and have a good percentage. which is true. Not defending him, but it wasn't that horrible.

 

:lol: Cap and Waddle were saying all the money coming off the books and he mentioned Walker's... that money will go far :P

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Oh cripes.

 

"You just hit your way on, you don't walk your way on."

 

You have to be kidding me.

 

Sounds like the EPatt Q & A.

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Pie? Jeebers.

 

Maybe that means Pierre is out the door.

 

Who cares. Do you really think that even if we aquire a good prospect that we'll do anything with him?

 

Anything to keep Pierre from being here beyond this year.

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I don't think that Hendry's comment was as bad as you guys are making it out to be. He said you still have to hit, you can't just go up there hoping to walk for an entire year and have a good percentage. which is true. Not defending him, but it wasn't that horrible.

 

:lol: Cap and Waddle were saying all the money coming off the books and he mentioned Walker's... that money will go far :P

 

I think Walker might make less than Neifi. How sad is that?

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Pie? Jeebers.

 

Maybe that means Pierre is out the door.

 

The guy asked him about Pie. His answer was we may see him, BUT he's only 21, it's his first year in AAA and he missed 60% of AA. So it wasn't anything definate he asked about it and said maybe.

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I don't think that Hendry's comment was as bad as you guys are making it out to be. He said you still have to hit, you can't just go up there hoping to walk for an entire year and have a good percentage. which is true. Not defending him, but it wasn't that horrible.

 

It's a nice way of saying walks don't matter. There are much better ways to get that point across, and it's self evident anyways.

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Pie? Jeebers.

 

Maybe that means Pierre is out the door.

 

Who cares. Do you really think that even if we aquire a good prospect that we'll do anything with him?

 

Anything to keep Pierre from being here beyond this year.

 

Seriously, though, my Cubs pessimism has reached it's apex. Nothing this team does will matter unless the decision makers are replaced. Keep Pierre? We suck. Bring up Pie? Clines and Mathews will wreck him like wings at a fat guy convention. Trade for prospects? Dusty won't play them enough to develop.

 

It literally does not matter what moves they make; we're screwed any way you slice it. It comes down to making the least destructive moves, which is flat out pathetic for a major market team with our fanbase.

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I don't think that Hendry's comment was as bad as you guys are making it out to be. He said you still have to hit, you can't just go up there hoping to walk for an entire year and have a good percentage. which is true. Not defending him, but it wasn't that horrible.

 

It's a nice way of saying walks don't matter. There are much better ways to get that point across, and it's self evident anyways.

 

If you listened to his comments as a whole that is not at all what he was saying. I realize that everyone wants Hendry to go, but at least view his comments as a whole and don't just pick one phrase and make it sound like that was all he said.

 

He said generally players with high OBP are generally good hitters. I don't see anything wrong at all with that statement.

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After the "you've got to be a good hitter to be able get on base as well" comment, he also stated that the lack of OBP wasn't due to lack of coaching and that Oneri Fleita was making great strides in that area.

 

Good thing we have a Director of Player Development that is making strides in the area of OBP.

 

I also liked his answer when asked about the mistakes he's made. He basically spent a couple of minutes talking about all of the injuries the Cubs have had, before finally admitting that he would have gotten a starting pitcher. If you were drinking along, you would have slammed the bottle on that answer alone.

 

It's good to know though, in response to Aramis's lack of hustle (the #1 question from e-mailers -- way to have priorities), that Hendry demands 100%. I'm kind of dissapointed he didn't demand an extra 10 percentage points.

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The AVG/OBP thing should come as no surprise. This team prefers the traditional five tools to everything else. Walks are a decent bonus, but not a necessity nor are they an indicator of anything. Guys who have high OBPs have high averages. The reason why they are such good hitters is because they get hits, not because they know how to work counts and draw walks.

 

Face it, Hendry said nothing new.

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I don't think that Hendry's comment was as bad as you guys are making it out to be. He said you still have to hit, you can't just go up there hoping to walk for an entire year and have a good percentage. which is true. Not defending him, but it wasn't that horrible.

 

It's a nice way of saying walks don't matter. There are much better ways to get that point across, and it's self evident anyways.

 

If you listened to his comments as a whole that is not at all what he was saying. I realize that everyone wants Hendry to go, but at least view his comments as a whole and don't just pick one phrase and make it sound like that was all he said.

 

He said generally players with high OBP are generally good hitters. I don't see anything wrong at all with that statement.

 

Yeah, some people are mis-characterizing what he said, although he didn't give the answer I would have liked to hear. Basically, if you've heard one Hendry interview, you've heard them all. He said nothing that he hasn't said before or that hasn't been reported in the papers.

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Hendry was asked about OBP in the minors.

 

Of course, a hitter will have to hit (show the tools to do so and produce) to work his way up the ladder. There aren't too many circumstances when a batter hasn't shown the tools to hit and hit hit for avg while being able to advance. Even major league hitters with the low avg/high obp/high slg traits of Dunn or on a weaker level (Bellhorn/Choi) did show an ability to hit that deserved promotions to the majors.

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The AVG/OBP thing should come as no surprise. This team prefers the traditional five tools to everything else. Walks are a decent bonus, but not a necessity nor are they an indicator of anything. Guys who have high OBPs have high averages. The reason why they are such good hitters is because they get hits, not because they know how to work counts and draw walks.

 

Face it, Hendry said nothing new.

 

Exactly, the way he answered the question reflects on him ignoring plate discipline in players.

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I didn't listen to the interview but it sounds like the same interview I've heard from Hendry before. If I'm mistaken I apologize, but some of you sound like you're surprised with some of Hendry's comments or lack of comments, particularly regarding OBP. Is it that you've been so focused on blaming Dusty that Hendry's philosophy/beliefs flew under your radar screen? I've been in civil and not so civil discussions in the past about my belief that Baker and Hendry are essentially of the same philosophy in just about every area of baseball.
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The AVG/OBP thing should come as no surprise. This team prefers the traditional five tools to everything else. Walks are a decent bonus, but not a necessity nor are they an indicator of anything. Guys who have high OBPs have high averages. The reason why they are such good hitters is because they get hits, not because they know how to work counts and draw walks.

 

Face it, Hendry said nothing new.

 

Exactly, the way he answered the question reflects on him ignoring plate discipline in players.

 

I'm confused about your comment. What did he say that was incorrect? Care to prove that most of the High OBP guys are not also good hitters?

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I didn't listen to the interview but it sounds like the same interview I've heard from Hendry before. If I'm mistaken I apologize, but some of you sound like you're surprised with some of Hendry's comments or lack of comments, particularly regarding OBP. Is it that you've been so focused on blaming Dusty that Hendry's philosophy/beliefs flew under your radar screen? I've been in civil and not so civil discussions in the past about my belief that Baker and Hendry are essentially of the same philosophy in just about every area of baseball.

 

So the fact that the Cubs as an orginization are putting more of an emphasis on OBP is bad thing?

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I didn't listen to the interview but it sounds like the same interview I've heard from Hendry before. If I'm mistaken I apologize, but some of you sound like you're surprised with some of Hendry's comments or lack of comments, particularly regarding OBP. Is it that you've been so focused on blaming Dusty that Hendry's philosophy/beliefs flew under your radar screen? I've been in civil and not so civil discussions in the past about my belief that Baker and Hendry are essentially of the same philosophy in just about every area of baseball.

 

I don't think anyone should be shocked what was said, they both like aggressive hitters. If you comprehended those comments as being a knock on OBP, it should upset someone in a similar manner as the clogging comments (which has been run with for several years as that shocked people at the time).

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The AVG/OBP thing should come as no surprise. This team prefers the traditional five tools to everything else. Walks are a decent bonus, but not a necessity nor are they an indicator of anything. Guys who have high OBPs have high averages. The reason why they are such good hitters is because they get hits, not because they know how to work counts and draw walks.

 

Face it, Hendry said nothing new.

 

Exactly, the way he answered the question reflects on him ignoring plate discipline in players.

 

I'm confused about your comment. What did he say that was incorrect? Care to prove that most of the High OBP guys are not also good hitters?

 

When asked about OBP, Hendry says that high OBP guys are good hitters, then references that players are supposed to hit their way, not walk. It's exactly what O_O said, he correlates the ability to get on base with that of hitting for a high average, while downplaying/dismissing the walk.

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