2006 Draft Discussion Thread

[texascub]

And our 18th round pick is Jose Hernandez RHP from Fla (HS).

[Jon]

Hopefully he can be our new K Hernandez.

[texascub]

His HS baseball team has their own website here. I didn't find much in the way of stats, but if you do a site search for his name you'll find a bunch of picture galleries and some stat blurbs. He seems to be a K machine...several clippings there have him striking about 7 and 11 guys in a game. It mentions him as a closer and reliever mostly, but there are also articles about him throwing up to 7 innings in a game so I believe he can do both. Edited June 6, 2006 by texascub

[Jon]

Only ran an hour long today.

[sethuel1]

How come the videos of the other teams' draftees show them hitting rockets to the outfield and ours show our draftees striking out or hitting weak grounders.

[brinoch]

How come the videos of the other teams' draftees show them hitting rockets to the outfield and ours show our draftees striking out or hitting weak grounders.

 

Dude, we cut the grass!

[texascub]

How come the videos of the other teams' draftees show them hitting rockets to the outfield and ours show our draftees striking out or hitting weak grounders.

 

Because we value tools and potential!

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I missed a few rounds on my commute home. Have we drafted anyone who's good yet?

[texascub]

I missed a few rounds on my commute home. Have we drafted anyone who's good yet?

 

Besides Samardzija, not really. There seem to be alot of unknowns in this draft right now...I hope Wilken turns out to be a genius.

[JGalt73]

Q: C. Koch from Midwest asks:

Please explain to me the Cubs thought process. Two picks in 5 rounds and we end up with Colvin and a risky Samardjia pick. Why not take Snider when he was available?

 

A: John Manuel: OK, first, they like Tyler Colvin as a legitimate, athletic outfielder with a pro body and a solid bat. I like Colvin a lot better than the other college OFs in the draft, guys like Jon Jay and Shane Robinson. We were a little slow to react on him in our lists unfortunately. Second, they love Samardzija and will try their best to make it work. They would not have picked him, I don't believe, if they didn't really believe that when push comes to shove, Samardzija eventually will choose baseball. Snider is not as athletic as Colvin, and his body scared some people off. For a traditional scout like Tim Wilken, I can understand why he'd take Colvin over Snider; Colvin is a more well-rounded player, and if his bat plays, he'll be very good.

 

Q: Sammy Patel from Carol Stream, IL. asks:

I'm a huge cubs fan I want to know more about Joshua Lansford what kind of prospect is he and what kind of upside does he have, all I know about him is that he is Carney's son.

 

A: John Manuel: Solid bat, some savvy you'd expect of a big league progeny, and he can play 3b pretty well. Good college player, doesn't profile as a star but has a chance to be a Joe Randa type of 3b.

 

Q: Samir from Downers Grove, IL. asks:

Which high risk unsignable players can the cubs go after to make up for the loss of picks 2 through 4.

 

A: John Manuel: I don't know if they haven't already done that. Drew Rundle in the 13th round is a possible guy like that, top HS player in Oregon, perhaps the No. 2 guy in the Pacific Northwest, at least among HS hitters. Jake Ramshaw has real power stuff, the RHP out of Ventura College, and could be a steal. Lars Anderson I believe is out there, power LH bat with a high price tag as a Cal guy. ARizona prep pitchers Charles Brewer and Jason Jarvis I believe are both available; Derrick Lutz, the power closer at George Washington, could be another option if he's healthy.

[Brian]

Has Murton's brother been picked yet, or is he not even in the draft this year?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Has Murton's brother been picked yet, or is he not even in the draft this year?

 

Nope, just a freshman this year.

[Brian]

Has Murton's brother been picked yet, or is he not even in the draft this year?

 

Nope, just a freshman this year.

 

OK I saw a post with his stats awhile back and figured he was going to go this year.

[texascub]

Has Murton's brother been picked yet, or is he not even in the draft this year?

 

Nope, just a freshman this year.

 

OK I saw a post with his stats awhile back and figured he was going to go this year.

 

I believe he'll be a draft eligible Soph. next year because of his age. I wonder if he went to a prep school or something after HS, because he's a 20 year-old Freshman.

[YearofDaCubs]

How come the videos of the other teams' draftees show them hitting rockets to the outfield and ours show our draftees striking out or hitting weak grounders.

A sign of things to come!!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

14th round pick Drew Rundle, who fell due to his college committment to Arizona:

 

Recruit Drew Rundle, an outfielder from Bend, Ore., was picked in the 14th round (419th overall) by the Chicago Cubs. Rundle said the Cubs offered him third-round money, about $500,000, so he's "leaning toward the Cubs right now."

[goonys evil twin]

14th round pick Drew Rundle, who fell due to his college committment to Arizona:

 

Recruit Drew Rundle, an outfielder from Bend, Ore., was picked in the 14th round (419th overall) by the Chicago Cubs. Rundle said the Cubs offered him third-round money, about $500,000, so he's "leaning toward the Cubs right now."

 

So was he a potential 3rd rounder that fell due to the committment? My guess would be he was considerer less than a 3rd rounder, and fell even further because of college. If 3rd round money is able to get him to change his mind, he must not have been getting 3rd round interest before.

[Guest]

14th round pick Drew Rundle, who fell due to his college committment to Arizona:

 

Recruit Drew Rundle, an outfielder from Bend, Ore., was picked in the 14th round (419th overall) by the Chicago Cubs. Rundle said the Cubs offered him third-round money, about $500,000, so he's "leaning toward the Cubs right now."

 

So was he a potential 3rd rounder that fell due to the committment? My guess would be he was considerer less than a 3rd rounder, and fell even further because of college. If 3rd round money is able to get him to change his mind, he must not have been getting 3rd round interest before.

Or the Cubs did their homework better than other teams and had a better read on the level of his commitment. It's one thing to say you're committed to college. It's another thing to turn down half a million when it is actually on the table.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

14th round pick Drew Rundle, who fell due to his college committment to Arizona:

 

Recruit Drew Rundle, an outfielder from Bend, Ore., was picked in the 14th round (419th overall) by the Chicago Cubs. Rundle said the Cubs offered him third-round money, about $500,000, so he's "leaning toward the Cubs right now."

 

So was he a potential 3rd rounder that fell due to the committment? My guess would be he was considerer less than a 3rd rounder, and fell even further because of college. If 3rd round money is able to get him to change his mind, he must not have been getting 3rd round interest before.

Or the Cubs did their homework better than other teams and had a better read on the level of his commitment. It's one thing to say you're committed to college. It's another thing to turn down half a million when it is actually on the table.

 

But it's hard for a teenager and his family to walk away from a six-figure signing bonus.

[reggiemiller rules]

Have any of you guys heard of this Cuban Marti the Cards got in the 18th I have heard he could start in Double AA and one guy on Mlb said he heard Bernie at Cardstalk say he could start in AAA and maybe be up in a couple of weeks. So just wondering if any of you guys who know more about the draft have heard anything about this guy.

[CuseCubFan69]

Yay center fielders.

 

Really makes you wonder if Pie might be going to another team this July...

 

Or they project him (Pie) to be a corner OF.

 

I consider CF's to be like SS's, they can play anywhere.

[hrowengartner]

Have any of you guys heard of this Cuban Marti the Cards got in the 18th I have heard he could start in Double AA and one guy on Mlb said he heard Bernie at Cardstalk say he could start in AAA and maybe be up in a couple of weeks. So just wondering if any of you guys who know more about the draft have heard anything about this guy.

He was born in 1978 he is 27 years old and will be 28 by the end of the year.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Interesting note about the picks in this decade from Ask BA:

 

In a column I wrote for our last issue (it hasn't been posted online yet), I tried to show the relative strengths of the drafts this decade by combining all the talent pools and then projecting how a first round would have unfolded, given the buzz on the prospects at the time. I didn't have room to go beyond 15 picks in my column, so I'll unveil the entire Top 30 here:

 

1. Mark Prior, rhp, Southern California (2001, Cubs No. 2).

2. Mark Teixeira, 3b, Georgia Tech (2001, Rangers No. 5).

3. Justin Upton, ss, Great Bridge HS, Chesapeake, Va. (2005, Diamondbacks No. 1).

4. Joe Mauer, c, Cretin-Derham Hall, St. Paul, Minn. (2001, Twins No. 1).

5. B.J. Upton, ss, Greenbrier Christian HS, Chesapeake, Va. (2002, Rays No. 2).

6. Delmon Young, of, Camarillo (Calif.) HS (2003, Devil Rays No. 1).

7. Rickie Weeks, 2b, Southern (2003, Brewers No. 2).

8. Alex Gordon, 3b, Nebraska (2005, Royals No. 2).

9. Jered Weaver, rhp, Long Beach State (2004, Angels No. 12).

10. Jeff Niemann, rhp, Rice (2004, Devil Rays No. 4).

11. Stephen Drew, ss, Florida State (2004, Diamondbacks No. 15).

12. Scott Kazmir, lhp, Cypress Falls HS, Houston (2002, Mets No. 15).

13. Andrew Miller, lhp, North Carolina (2006, Tigers No. 6).

14. Troy Tulowitzki, ss, Long Beach State (2005, Rockies No. 7).

15. Bryan Bullington, rhp, Ball State (2002, Pirates No. 1).

16. Matt Harrington, rhp, Palmdale (Calif.) HS (2000, Rockies No. 7).

17. Bobby Brownlie, rhp, Rutgers (2002, Cubs No. 21).

18. Adam Loewen, lhp, Fraser Valley Christian HS, Surrey, B.C. (2002, O's No. 4).

19. Brad Lincoln, rhp, Houston (2006, Pirates No. 4).

20. Mike Pelfrey, rhp, Wichita State (2005, Mets No. 9).

21. Kyle Sleeth, rhp, Wake Forest (2003, Tigers No. 3).

22. Lastings Milledge, of, Lakewood Ranch HS, Palmetto, Fla. (2003, Mets No. 12).

23. Cameron Maybin, of, T.C. Roberson HS, Arden, N.C. (2005, Tigers No. 10).

24. Justin Verlander, rhp, Old Dominion (2004, Tigers No. 2)

25. Ryan Zimmerman, 3b, Virginia (2005, Nationals No. 4).

26. Xavier Nady, 3b, California (2000, Padres No. 49).

27. Joe Borchard, of, Stanford (2000, White Sox No. 12).

28. Luke Hochevar, rhp, Tennessee (2005, Dodgers No. 40/2006, Royals No. 1).

29. Tim Lincecum, rhp, Washington (2006, Giants No. 10).

30. Gavin Floyd, rhp, Mount St. Joseph HS, Severna Park, Md. (2001, Phillies No. 4).

 

Only 4 guys from this year's draft (including Hochevar)...definitely shows the weakness of this year's draft in comparison to other years (at least at the time of each draft).

[texascub]

How in the heck is Brownlie on that list? I know he was considered talented at the time we took him, but I don't have enough fingers to count how many people below him on that list I'd take instead of him.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

How in the heck is Brownlie on that list? I know he was considered talented at the time we took him, but I don't have enough fingers to count how many people below him on that list I'd take instead of him.

 

It's based on how high the player was rated at the time of that draft.