Baseball America's May 11 Daily Dish: Luis Montanez

[goonys evil twin]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

 

Alright fine, bring 'em all up. Take whatever minor leaguers are hitting, and put them in place of Bynum, Theriot and Mabry, who has been awful. Might as well drop back to 11 pitchers and call up another bat as well.

[Flames24Rulz]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

 

Alright fine, bring 'em all up. Take whatever minor leaguers are hitting, and put them in place of Bynum, Theriot and Mabry, who has been awful. Might as well drop back to 11 pitchers and call up another bat as well.

 

i think you actually have to play before you are called terrible. The Riot hasn't had a chance to show anything with the big league team yet.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

 

Alright fine, bring 'em all up. Take whatever minor leaguers are hitting, and put them in place of Bynum, Theriot and Mabry, who has been awful. Might as well drop back to 11 pitchers and call up another bat as well.

 

i think you actually have to play before you are called terrible. The Riot hasn't had a chance to show anything with the big league team yet.

 

I believe that statement was made about Mabry.

[Flames24Rulz]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

 

Alright fine, bring 'em all up. Take whatever minor leaguers are hitting, and put them in place of Bynum, Theriot and Mabry, who has been awful. Might as well drop back to 11 pitchers and call up another bat as well.

 

i think you actually have to play before you are called terrible. The Riot hasn't had a chance to show anything with the big league team yet.

 

I believe that statement was made about Mabry.

 

yeah, i believe you're right :oops: Carry on then.

 

If Luis continues to hit the way he has for the next week or 2, I'd strongly consider bringing him up.

[goonys evil twin]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

 

Alright fine, bring 'em all up. Take whatever minor leaguers are hitting, and put them in place of Bynum, Theriot and Mabry, who has been awful. Might as well drop back to 11 pitchers and call up another bat as well.

 

i think you actually have to play before you are called terrible. The Riot hasn't had a chance to show anything with the big league team yet.

 

I didn't say Theriot has been terrible. But he wasn't hitting in the minors, he's never hit much in the minors. They aren't playing him anyway, and there is no need for so many backup infielders.

[abuck1220]

wow, mabry has been awful. what a terrible bench hendry put together. blanco, mabry, and nine 2b...here's your contract extension, jim.

[YearofDaCubs]

wow, mabry has been awful. what a terrible bench hendry put together. blanco, mabry, and nine 2b...here's your contract extension, jim.

:lol: :lol:

[1908]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

Ugh, a 27-year-old pounding the ball at AAA or a 24-year-old tearing it up at AA. Dark times.

[Guest]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

Ugh, a 27-year-old pounding the ball at AAA or a 24-year-old tearing it up at AA. Dark times.

So, 1908 -- how about starting a new Japanese baseball thread to entice us with an OF for 2007?

[Outshined_One]

Why not just bring up Restovich again? He has a better pedigree and is absolutely pounding the ball at a higher level than Montanez. Also, Montanez is actually hitting better against RHP than LHP thus far.

Ugh, a 27-year-old pounding the ball at AAA or a 24-year-old tearing it up at AA. Dark times.

So, 1908 -- how about starting a new Japanese baseball thread to entice us with an OF for 2007?

 

...who will inevitably end up going to the Yankees or Mariners!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

In a chat, Chris Kline also had this to say about Marmol and Montanez:

 

Q: Phil Geyer from Frederick, MD asks:

What are your thoughts on Carlos Marmol? Also, is there any reason to be encouraged by Luis Montanez's performance, or is it too late for him?

 

A: Chris Kline: Phil, OK, let me get this straight. You live in Frederick and you're not obsessed with Nolan Reimold? I couldn't do it. Regarding Marmol, I say get excited. He's pitching and hitting in Double-A--and really mixing his aresnal well on the mound. As far as Montanez, what he's doing is interesting--but nothing more than interesting to me at this point.

[1908]

In his first seven games since being promoted to Iowa, Luis is hitting .333/.391/.619.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

In his first seven games since being promoted to Iowa, Luis is hitting .333/.391/.619.

 

Give him a shot. What can it hurt at this point?

[goonys evil twin]

In his first seven games since being promoted to Iowa, Luis is hitting .333/.391/.619.

 

Give him a shot. What can it hurt at this point?

 

I'm absolutely schocked by this development, but at this stage in the season, why wouldn't you give him a shot? He's only got 1 K as well, compared to 26 in his first 141 AB in AA.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

In his first seven games since being promoted to Iowa, Luis is hitting .333/.391/.619.

 

Give him a shot. What can it hurt at this point?

 

I'm absolutely schocked by this development, but at this stage in the season, why wouldn't you give him a shot? He's only got 1 K as well, compared to 26 in his first 141 AB in AA.

 

He's only doing it because I officially labeled him a bust at the beginning of this season. I'm trying that same voodoo crap on the rest of the organization, it's just not working yet.

[RynoRules]

In his first seven games since being promoted to Iowa, Luis is hitting .333/.391/.619.

 

Give him a shot. What can it hurt at this point?

 

Exactly - that was what I meant by my post above. Give the kids a shot a la FL or the A's; could it really be any worse than the current nonsense? I'd rather see Montanez, Pie, Murton, Cedeno and EPatt fall all over themselves than watch freakin Jones, Pierre and Neifi lose 100 games. At least those guys will get better (probably).

[CubDad4Ever]

How is Jones helping us lose right now compared to Murton. Stick to OPS and facts please . Enough obligitory veteran hate. The cubs are bad enought without BS solutions. JP has stunk, Nefi contribution has been minimal . Stick to the freakin facts jack. Coach L.

[RynoRules]

How is Jones helping us lose right now compared to Murton. Stick to OPS and facts please . Enough obligitory veteran hate. The cubs are bad enought without BS solutions. JP has stunk, Nefi contribution has been minimal . Stick to the freakin facts jack. Coach L.

 

This isn't Jones hate! Its hate of financially bloated teams that are on pace to lose 100 games. If you are going to lose, do it like the Fish are and find out which young guys with potential are worth keeping. Again, I'd love to see:

 

OF: Pie, Murton, Montanez/Restovich/Coats

IF: ARam, Lee, Cedeno, EPatt/Lewis

C: Barrett

 

This allows you to deal the vets who have no place for more young help. You will no doubt find that some of these guys either aren't very good or aren't ready. But now that you have payroll flexibility, you go out and sign a couple of FAs to fill in the blanks in the lineup around Lee, ARam and Barrett.

 

In other words, tear it down and rebuild it.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

How is Jones helping us lose right now compared to Murton. Stick to OPS and facts please . Enough obligitory veteran hate. The cubs are bad enought without BS solutions. JP has stunk, Nefi contribution has been minimal . Stick to the freakin facts jack. Coach L.

 

Calm down. Jones's OPS is 80 points higher than Murton right now. However, Jacque has shown since 2002 that he is probably going to end up in that 750 range. Murton's minor league average is 831, and he was over 900 everywhere he was last year. Jones is on the wrong side of 30, Murton is still young and improving. Jones makes 6M, Murton's at the league minimum. Right now, they would make an excellent platoon, but given a choice between the 2 of them, it's a no-brainer. An OF of Montanez, Murton, and Pie right now is more desirable than Murton, Pierre and Jones if this team is going to continue losing the way they are. We could see those young players develop instead of watching veterans do nothing of significance to turn things around. Those are the freakin facts.

[CubDad4Ever]

Hey , my name is ear. , with that okie logic , we will never have a team. I too want this thing rebuilt. But having that crappy outfield , would be even less offensive than the crap we are throwing out there now. BS its not biased against vets. Try again earl . JJ is one of the few bats to have produced this month when we have been crap. The pitchers would rebell with an all minor league outfield. Coach l

[brinoch]

Why not sit Pierre, move Jones to center and let Montanez play right (or left)?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Hey , my name is ear. , with that okie logic , we will never have a team. I too want this thing rebuilt. But having that crappy outfield , would be even less offensive than the crap we are throwing out there now. BS its not biased against vets. Try again earl . JJ is one of the few bats to have produced this month when we have been crap. The pitchers would rebell with an all minor league outfield. Coach l

 

Eloquent as ever, Mrs. Jones. Until the grammar and spelling are cleared up to the point where I can understand an entire post of yours, please do not resort to personal attacks. I don't understand how your misunderstanding of a desire to see changes made result in that being okie logic on my part. Try again, coach unoriginal avatar.

 

Ryno was advocating giving the kids a shot to allow them to develop. Murton, Pie, and Montanez (all at the league minimum) have the potential to equal or exceed the production of Murton, Pierre, and Jones (at 12M+). Pierre and Jones have established what the rest of their careers will probably look like, and the odds are very against them to improve significantly. Murton, Pie, and Montanez are all still learning the game and could outproduce the current OF while still improving. There is no veteran bias, and this is not an instance of what you perceive to be blind hatred toward Jacque (reminder that I already advocated a Murton/Jones platoon). If we are going to lose 100 games (which we will do easily at this pace), why would you not want to give these kids a shot to see what they will give you for the future? You know exactly what you will get with Jones, the rest are unknown.

 

And what pitchers are going to rebel? The same pitchers who have one of the worst outfields in baseball right now? The same pitchers who cannot refrain from walking too many? The same pitchers who keep giving up homeruns? Are we 25th in ERA because of the outfield? If they haven't rebelled already with the abysmal lineup that's currently behind them, they probably never will. Odds are, a good chuck of them won't be with the team later this year or next anyway.

[NCCubFan]

OK, let's stop getting personal here.

[soccer10k]

Montenez went 0-5 tonight against Sacramento.

[RynoRules]

Montenez went 0-5 tonight against Sacramento.

 

Cut him and bring up Womack!!!

 

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