What about this trade: Wood to the Yankees for Sheff?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Wood comes back healthy and effective, who would be in favor of this move?

 

Yes, before anyone brings it up, I know Wood has a NTC. I also know he's not likely to waive it. Maybe if the Yankees would agree to pick up his option....

 

The Yankees have enough offense to be able to get by without Sheffield. Their weakness is pitching.

 

Mussina is doing ok, but he's not guaranteed to continue doing so. Wang, Johnson, and Chacon have ERA's above 4.50. There's no guarantee that Wright or Pavano will be productive either. Salary wise, the trade is nearly a wash. It would be nice if we could get the Yankees to take by Jones' contract, but that isn't likely.

 

This trade has all kinds of red flags, I know. Wood has a NTC and Sheff has said he would retire if traded. But, this could be a trade that solves problems of two teams.

[CubfaninCA]

tough call. but like you stated, there's lots of catch so probably a 1 in 1000 chance of happening.

 

jmo but the cubs offense is alright if lee comes back & aram & pierre get on track; they hide jones in the 7 or 8 spot; and keep walker in the 3 hole.

 

pierre, cedeno, walker, lee, aram, murton, barrett and jones looks good on paper. lots of ifs and buts tho.

[Mizzou]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What got me thinking about this is that the Cubs need another impact bat. Even when Lee comes back, there's no guarantee he'll have his power after suffering a wrist injury. We will need to trade for a bat and right field makes the most sense.

 

Furthermore, if Wood and Prior come back healthy, we'll have the pitching depth to trade.

 

The rotation could be Zambrano, Wood, Maddux, Prior and Marshall. Miller could have a spot with Guzman, Williams, and Hill providing additional depth. Ryu could also be in the picture.

 

Most would think the Cubs would trade one of the young pitchers to get that bat, with Marshall likely being the top of most teams' wish list. A pitcher like Wood wouldn't interest a team rebuilding.

 

On the other hand, if we swing a deal with a contender who is in need of pitching but has plenty of offense, then one of those teams could be interested in Wood or Prior. Of the two, I'd prefer to deal Wood just as I'd prefer to deal Wood over Marshall or Guzman.

 

The Yankees are a match in that regard.

 

There aren't too many contenders who could trade their rightfielder and not miss a beat.

[Rob]

I don't think I could bring myself to do it just because of the age factor.

 

Yeah, Sheff is better now, but he simply wont be playing as long. If we tried to trade Wood off, there'd be almost zero chance of re-signing him in the offseason. And with the chance he still has to be something really special, I can't trade away his future for a hired gun like Sheff.

[Andy]

No steroid users plz

[Guest]

:pukel:

 

Gary has any number of physical ailments that threaten to keep him out or diminish his performance at any time. If he's healthy and I'm trading Wood at the deadline, I want to get a young stud or two.

 

Arizona for some of their young players, plz.

[Productive Outs]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

 

he used to be. he's not anymore -- he's had a significant drop in power since he left atlanta.

[Rob]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

 

he used to be. he's not anymore -- he's had a significant drop in power since he left atlanta.

 

~.040 drop in IsoP.

 

Don't get me wrong, that's a lot... but he's still up in the .225 range. It's not like he's suddenly going to be in any danger of becoming Neifi.

 

Besides, he'd do well with in Wrigley.

[Mizzou]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

 

he used to be. he's not anymore -- he's had a significant drop in power since he left atlanta.

Not really. In two years in Atlanta, he hit 25 then 39 HR's. His first two years in New York, he hit 36 then 34 HR's.

[srbin84]

I'm all for this trade. If Lee comes back, it would be a better offense than the Cards.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Sheff is currently hitting 341/390/516. That would look outstanding in the number four spot.

[Guest]

As much as I'm a fan of Marshall's, we should consider that he's had troubles staying on the mound through a minor league season. If you're aiming for the playoffs (and with a move like acquiring Sheff, that's definitely the case), it would be wise to consider the probability of Sean still going strong at that point.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

As much as I'm a fan of Marshall's, we should consider that he's had troubles staying on the mound through a minor league season. If you're aiming for the playoffs (and with a move like acquiring Sheff, that's definitely the case), it would be wise to consider the probability of Sean still going strong at that point.

 

That's an excellent point, but with the depth of Guzman, Miller, and Hill to combine with him, one of those could step in if he falters.

 

I would think that a second-half line-up of:

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Sheffield

Ramirez

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

 

while admittedly right-handed would be a very tough line-up for a pitcher to face.

[Productive Outs]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

 

he used to be. he's not anymore -- he's had a significant drop in power since he left atlanta.

Not really. In two years in Atlanta, he hit 25 then 39 HR's. His first two years in New York, he hit 36 then 34 HR's.

 

total bases from 2003-2005:

 

2003: 348

2004: 306

2005: 299

 

don't get me wrong, i'd love to have him, but he's getting pretty old, and his left arm is about to fall off.

[Guest]

As much as I'm a fan of Marshall's, we should consider that he's had troubles staying on the mound through a minor league season. If you're aiming for the playoffs (and with a move like acquiring Sheff, that's definitely the case), it would be wise to consider the probability of Sean still going strong at that point.

 

That's an excellent point, but with the depth of Guzman, Miller, and Hill to combine with him, one of those could step in if he falters.

 

I would think that a second-half line-up of:

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Sheffield

Ramirez

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

 

while admittedly right-handed would be a very tough line-up for a pitcher to face.

I won't deny that (though I'd hit Cedeno or Murton #2 and put Walker #6). However, I'd really prefer to target a player who can be here for a while rather than Sheff. If Wood is healthy and rolling, he would be one of the most valuable commodities on the market at the deadline in recent years.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

My preference is still Abreu. I think we could get him with a package that includes Marshall or Guzman if they continue to improve at the major league level.

 

But, I do think Sheff is one interesting player to keep an eye on.

[WrigleyinEngland]

I have a feeling that Jim will not look to RF in order to improve. JJ for some satanic reason is here for 3 years and no team will want a piece of that. IMO no way the Abreu deal is poss. I still think Wilson is the most likely to platoon and play some 1st. Only realistic option short term could be Williams and prospect for Soriano.

[Mizzou]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

 

he used to be. he's not anymore -- he's had a significant drop in power since he left atlanta.

Not really. In two years in Atlanta, he hit 25 then 39 HR's. His first two years in New York, he hit 36 then 34 HR's.

 

total bases from 2003-2005:

 

2003: 348

2004: 306

2005: 299

 

don't get me wrong, i'd love to have him, but he's getting pretty old, and his left arm is about to fall off.

Well, you said he had a significant drop in power... which he clearly didn't. That's the only thing I took issue with. I don't deny that he is not as good as he once was. He's still real good though.

[rjchapma]

If there is any chances of this trade do it. Im sick of waiting and we could get one of the best hitting players in the game. I know he is older, but he the last 2 years he still hit like 30 hrs and batted around .300 ill take that.

[Backtobanks]

I have a feeling that Jim will not look to RF in order to improve. JJ for some satanic reason is here for 3 years and no team will want a piece of that. IMO no way the Abreu deal is poss. I still think Wilson is the most likely to platoon and play some 1st. Only realistic option short term could be Williams and prospect for Soriano.

 

RF and 1B (temporarily) are the only places to look for improvement right now. There is no way JJ is going to be here for 3 years unless he hits .300 with 25 HR and 90+ RBI. I think there will be quite a few teams interested in JJ depending on how much salary Hendry is willing to pay after this season. Don't forget he will be able to eat some salary assuming Pie (at league minimum) is ready.

[biittner77]

I have a feeling that Jim will not look to RF in order to improve. JJ for some satanic reason is here for 3 years and no team will want a piece of that. IMO no way the Abreu deal is poss. I still think Wilson is the most likely to platoon and play some 1st. Only realistic option short term could be Williams and prospect for Soriano.

 

RF and 1B (temporarily) are the only places to look for improvement right now. There is no way JJ is going to be here for 3 years unless he hits .300 with 25 HR and 90+ RBI. I think there will be quite a few teams interested in JJ depending on how much salary Hendry is willing to pay after this season. Don't forget he will be able to eat some salary assuming Pie (at league minimum) is ready.

 

Unless the Cubs decide to keep Jones and let Pierre go via FA. They replace Pierre with Pie and have Cedeno lead off

 

Cedeno

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Pie

Murton

Jones

Barrett

Pitcher

[Productive Outs]

I'd make that trade in a second. I like Kerry a lot, but I'm beyond the point of having faith in him. Sheffield is one of the best hitters in the game. If Hendry can trade an oft injured starting pitcher for a player of Sheffield's caliber, he should jump all over it.

 

he used to be. he's not anymore -- he's had a significant drop in power since he left atlanta.

 

~.040 drop in IsoP.

 

Don't get me wrong, that's a lot... but he's still up in the .225 range. It's not like he's suddenly going to be in any danger of becoming Neifi.

 

Besides, he'd do well with in Wrigley.

 

2003 .271

2004 .244

2005 .221

2006 .175

 

that's a bit more than .040

[Monco]

Sheffield don't strike out enough to play right field here.