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Saints take Bush. Their team ceartianly got a shot in the arm this off season. Have fun trying to tackle Reggie Bush NFC South.

Best division in football, no arguments about it. I'm scared out of my mind of Bush after watching him tear apart ND three years in a row.

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I'm still trying to figure out what the Cowboys do at #18. I could see them trading out of the first round altogether and taking McNeil in the early second round.

 

I'm also interested to see how far Claude Wroten falls. He has as much talent as any defensive lineman in the draft but has had issues with marijuana.

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But I can't imagine how Sanders (or anyone else) could have been any more electrifying and unhittable than Bush. In fact, ESPN Classic just rebroadcast the USC-Fresno State game this very afternoon, and it seems wholly impossible that anyone could be better at running away from people than this particular human. Moreover, everyone alive seems to know this: not only have I never met a Reggie Bush skeptic, I've never met anyone who didn't consider Bush to be a transcendent superhuman. He possesses the kind of greatness that a child can see.

 

Yet the Texans have nonetheless convinced themselves that they will be better off selecting Mario Williams, the tall, speed-rushing defensive end from North Carolina State. I suspect Williams is potentially stellar. In time, he could be Pro Bowl caliber player. And the Texans' reasoning (I assume) is that (a) you build a team around defense and pass rushing; (b) they already have a decent running back; © Bush might be hyper-expensive; and (d) Reggie's parents appear to be living in a free house, which seems a tad sketchy. This is all fine and reasonable. The only problem is that Gary Kubiak has failed to weigh these points against the opposing argument, which is that REGGIE BUSH IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TACKLE. HE IS WAY, WAY BETTER THAN ALL OF THE OTHER DUDES WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE DRAFTED. WHEN REGGIE BUSH IS RUNNING WITH THE FOOTBALL, THOSE ATTEMPTING TO KNOCK HIM TO THE GROUND CANNOT SEEM TO DO SO. THIS QUALITY IS ADVANTAGEOUS WITHIN THE GAME OF FOOTBALL, AS THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE TOTALITY OF THE SPORT.

 

Obviously, this decision is wolf-face crazy. It's the kind of decision you make when you are drunk, and on cocaine, and on deadline, and on fire. It's going to define the future of the Houston franchise, and it will potentially wreck it (at least for a decade). But I think I know why they did it. I think I know why the Texans have consciously overlooked a reality that seemed to be universally understood: the NFL draft has grown into such a self-obsessed, metacommunicative monoculture that it actively perpetuates counter-intuitive logic. Pro football teams (and the media entities which cover it, including this one) have invested so much time and effort into analysis that smart people can no longer see what's abundantly obvious. The culture of the NFL draft insists that nothing is ever easy; it suggests that what you see with your eyes is always meaningless. It is no longer acceptable to pick a player because he's the best guy available -- general managers need to justify their picks through theoretical means that are akin to corporate-speak. The Texans talked themselves into picking an inferior player; they created reasonable, intellectual reasons to make a terrible move. And I realize Houston needs help on defense, but remember -- they had the first overall pick because they were the worst team in the league. They need everything. And while you can't get everything at once, the closest singular equivalent is usually the single-best force. But they took the wrong guy.

 

 

They took the wrong guy.

 

Agreed.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

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Matt Leinart is now looking at #7 OAK, #10 ARZ, #11 STL or #17 MIN. Talk about a nightmare day for you and your paycheck!

 

I like Matt Leinert as a person. I'd hate to have to hate him if he went to Minnesota.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Are you really Mike Golic?

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

Give Quinn USC's talent and he does much better than Leinart, I'm not talking about ND's team.

 

Edit - SI.com said it too so I'm not alone. But I won't go any further.

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You'd be better off arguing that Texiera has been the most productive of the 3 top picks.

 

Tex was taken fifth by the Rangers. You really have to think the two teams preceding them were boneheads: The Devil Rays taking arguably the worst pitcher in baseball, Dewon Brazelton, and the Phillies selecting Gavin Floyd.

 

Wonder if the Rays could use Tex :-k

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

Give Quinn USC's talent and he does much better than Leinart, I'm not talking about ND's team.

 

Let's end this silly homer talk before it takes over this thread.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

Give Quinn USC's talent and he does much better than Leinart, I'm not talking about ND's team.

 

Humble?? :wink:

 

Back to the draft....

AJ Hawk, is brady's sister in the audience? he dates her if you didnt know.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

Give Quinn USC's talent and he does much better than Leinart, I'm not talking about ND's team.

 

Let's end this silly homer talk before it takes over this thread.

A question was asked and I offered my speculation. If you don't agree fine, but don't flat out tell me I'm wrong, since you have no damn clue what would have really happened had Quinn or anyone else gone to USC.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

Give Quinn USC's talent and he does much better than Leinart, I'm not talking about ND's team.

 

Edit - SI.com said it too so I'm not alone. But I won't go any further.

 

Thank-you.

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I'm curious on how many NCAA QB's could have done just as well or better than Leinart did if they were at USC.

Brady Quinn could've won three straight REAL titles IMHO.

 

Please stop. Win a bowl game first.

Give Quinn USC's talent and he does much better than Leinart, I'm not talking about ND's team.

 

Let's end this silly homer talk before it takes over this thread.

A question was asked and I offered my speculation. If you don't agree fine, but don't flat out tell me I'm wrong, since you have no damn clue what would have really happened had Quinn or anyone else gone to USC.

 

Wild speculation like that serves absolutely no purpose. Which I was refering mostly to. Feel free to overreact though.

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You'd be better off arguing that Texiera has been the most productive of the 3 top picks.

 

Tex was taken fifth by the Rangers. You really have to think the two teams preceding them were boneheads: The Devil Rays taking arguably the worst pitcher in baseball, Dewon Brazelton, and the Phillies selecting Gavin Floyd.

 

Wonder if the Rays could use Tex :-k

 

Wow, I didn't realize he went 5th.

 

The Rays' management suck.

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