Fernando Tatis

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What happened to him?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Enough GM's figured out he was terrible. 76, 83, and 34 OPS+ his last 3 seasons.

[elconq05]

It was all downhill after his two grand slams in one inning against LA.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Enough GM's figured out he was terrible. 76, 83, and 34 OPS+ his last 3 seasons.

 

Sure, after he was shipped to Montreal to waste away. He was much, much better the 3 seasons before that. Was he injured, or what? I'd ask an Expos fan, but we all know there aren't any of those around.

[BigbadB]

He's currently on someone's AAA team.

[FergieJ31]

It was all downhill after his two grand slams in one inning against LA.

 

Trivia q: who was the premium pitcher ($2.3M in 1999, $15M last year) off of whom he hit BOTH grannies?

Edited April 19, 2006 by FergieJ31

[Ding Dong Johnson]

It was all downhill after his two grand slams in one inning against LA.

 

Trivia q: who was the premium pitcher ($2.3M in 1999) off of whom he hit BOTH grannies?

 

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know. Were his initials Chan Ho Park?

[BigbadB]

Fernando is at Ottawa. Is that Baltimore's AAA team?

[FergieJ31]

It was all downhill after his two grand slams in one inning against LA.

 

Trivia q: who was the premium pitcher ($2.3M in 1999) off of whom he hit BOTH grannies?

 

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know. Were his initials Chan Ho Park?

 

:lol: Chan was da man

[Coach C]

Fernando is at Ottawa. Is that Baltimore's AAA team?

 

Yes.

 

Ottawa Lynx (AAA) (Baltimore Orioles)

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Fernando is at Ottawa. Is that Baltimore's AAA team?

 

Yes, it is. Looks like he's hitting well. Oh how the mighty can fall.

[FergieJ31]

It was all downhill after his two grand slams in one inning against LA.

 

wow you're not kidding about the downhill thing:

 

Tatis:

1999, OPS = 957

2000, OPS = 870

2001, OPS = 702

2002, OPS = 698

2003, OPS = 544

[minnesotacubsfan]

It was all downhill after his two grand slams in one inning against LA.

 

wow you're not kidding about the downhill thing:

 

Tatis:

1999, OPS = 957

2000, OPS = 870

2001, OPS = 702

2002, OPS = 698

2003, OPS = 544

 

eehh emmm.. (roids)

[jjgman21]

what happened to Tatis? simple. same thing that happens to player after player. he's with one team and deals with a certain strikezone. he goes to another team which at present shall remain nameless and the strikezone becomes the size of a pea. he is traded from that unnamed team to a different team, and suddenly the strikezone is back to normal, and the player is back to sucking.

[mul21]

what happened to Tatis? simple. same thing that happens to player after player. he's with one team and deals with a certain strikezone. he goes to another team which at present shall remain nameless and the strikezone becomes the size of a pea. he is traded from that unnamed team to a different team, and suddenly the strikezone is back to normal, and the player is back to sucking.

 

Huh?

[illiniguy]

what happened to Tatis? simple. same thing that happens to player after player. he's with one team and deals with a certain strikezone. he goes to another team which at present shall remain nameless and the strikezone becomes the size of a pea. he is traded from that unnamed team to a different team, and suddenly the strikezone is back to normal, and the player is back to sucking.

 

Huh?

What happens to every piece of crap the cardinals pick up?

[jjgman21]

what happened to Tatis? simple. same thing that happens to player after player. he's with one team and deals with a certain strikezone. he goes to another team which at present shall remain nameless and the strikezone becomes the size of a pea. he is traded from that unnamed team to a different team, and suddenly the strikezone is back to normal, and the player is back to sucking.

 

Huh?

 

pretty simple - OPS+

 

97 (team 1) - 78

98 (team 1) - 70

98 (team 2) - 128

99 (team 2) - 140

00 (team 2) - 118

01 (team 3) - 76

02 (team 3) - 83

03 (team 3) - 34

 

changed teams, instantly became a better player. changed teams again, and instantly sucked again. almost as if any lessons he learned while with team 2 were completely lost. could be, but when it happens with player after player, it seems to me that something else is going on besides what that organization teaches the player.

 

it's amazing what happens when you play for a team where Joe Morgan's "acceptable strikes" are never called strikes.

[TB_11]

I do remember the Cardinals questioned his work ethic when they shipped him off. Not sure if that's the whole story behind the startling drop in his numbers.

[BigbadB]

what happened to Tatis? simple. same thing that happens to player after player. he's with one team and deals with a certain strikezone. he goes to another team which at present shall remain nameless and the strikezone becomes the size of a pea. he is traded from that unnamed team to a different team, and suddenly the strikezone is back to normal, and the player is back to sucking.

 

Huh?

 

pretty simple - OPS+

 

97 (team 1) - 78

98 (team 1) - 70

98 (team 2) - 128

99 (team 2) - 140

00 (team 2) - 118

01 (team 3) - 76

02 (team 3) - 83

03 (team 3) - 34

 

changed teams, instantly became a better player. changed teams again, and instantly sucked again. almost as if any lessons he learned while with team 2 were completely lost. could be, but when it happens with player after player, it seems to me that something else is going on besides what that organization teaches the player.

 

it's amazing what happens when you play for a team where Joe Morgan's "acceptable strikes" are never called strikes.

 

Wow, that is an interesting breakdown of his OPS+. Makes you wanta go hmmm.

[Caryatid]

Does anyone else have some other examples of Cardinals' players stats as striking as Tatis?

[ltb]

Does anyone else have some other examples of Cardinals' players stats as striking as Tatis?

 

edmonds

1993: 62

1994: 85

1995: 128

1996: 137

1997: 124

1998: 124

1999: 94

(traded to STL)

2000: 148

2001: 150

2002: 163

2003: 161

2004: 173

2005: 136

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I have Tatis's autograph on a plastic marracca (sp?) given out at a Texas Rangers game.