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I'd classify 4.00 as mediocre anyway.

 

I'd guess far more than half the pitchers in the Majors are worse than a 4.00 ERA.

 

That's just a testament to how poor and diluted the overall talent pool is, especially in terms of pitching. Doesn't make a 4 ERA any better.

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game log says three looking K's, and only 19 balls in 68 pitches for Aroyo. great pitching, bad hitting, or generous umpiring? or a combination thereof?

 

just great pitching

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rusch's picture is in the dictionary next to mediocre!

 

he is fine at what he should be doing. he is a swing starter, back of the rotation...a spot starter who can also relieve...his value is in that, but if he is your #2 starter(which he is right now) he is very mediocre..actually probably bad as a #2.

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How starting pitching is terrible! When is Woody, Miller, and Prior coming back? Sheez!

 

When ARE Woody, Miller, and Prior coming back...

 

:wink:

I guess I am an idiot, but when was the last time any of those guys were as good as advertised? 2003?

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Warming up in the Cubs bullpen..... a tee.

 

Gotta be better than what we've seen today.

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How starting pitching is terrible! When is Woody, Miller, and Prior coming back? Sheez!

 

When ARE Woody, Miller, and Prior coming back...

 

:wink:

I guess I am an idiot, but when was the last time any of those guys were as good as advertised? 2003?

 

When was the last time Rusch pitched a decent game?

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I'd classify 4.00 as mediocre anyway.

 

I'd guess far more than half the pitchers in the Majors are worse than a 4.00 ERA.

 

That's just a testament to how poor and diluted the overall talent pool is, especially in terms of pitching. Doesn't make a 4 ERA any better.

It doesn't matter, his starting ERA was 4.87

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I don't care how much it costs - I want Zito in '07, if not sooner. I'm sick of this half our starters being down crap. Give me a bona fide HEALTHY starter.
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How starting pitching is terrible! When is Woody, Miller, and Prior coming back? Sheez!

 

When ARE Woody, Miller, and Prior coming back...

 

:wink:

I guess I am an idiot, but when was the last time any of those guys were as good as advertised? 2003?

 

When was the last time Rusch pitched a decent game?

I don't want him in there either. Nice throw Jacque. What a great pick up he has proven to be.

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I don't care how much it costs - I want Zito in '07, if not sooner. I'm sick of this half our starters being down crap. Give me a bona fide HEALTHY starter.

 

Did you see Zito pitch on Monday? Wasn't much better then Rusch's start.

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2004 as a starter =3.50 (16)

2005 as a starter = 4.32 (19)

 

Looks like 4.00 to me.

 

If a 4.00 ERA in 2004/2005 as a starter is mediocre then yes, if not no.

 

May. 13 @WAS W 6-3 5.0 6 2 2 0 2 2 4 8 90 22 47 - - 2.88

May. 23 HOU W 4-1 8.0 5 1 1 1 1 6 11 9 108 29 73 W(3-1) - 2.54

Jun. 2 @SD W 5-0 9.0 4 0 0 0 1 7 6 11 122 32 85 W(5-1) - 1.96

Jun. 7 TOR L 6-4 6.0 4 3 2 0 3 2 8 8 104 25 53 - - 2.07

Jun. 12 BOS L 8-1 6.2 11 5 5 2 1 7 6 5 114 28 33 L(5-2) - 2.57

Jun. 18 @NYY L 8-1 5.0 9 5 4 0 1 3 9 5 98 25 33 L(5-3) - 2.89

Jun. 23 @MIL L 8-7 6.0 7 4 4 2 3 2 9 10 103 28 41 - - 3.13

Aug. 15 @HOU L 12-4 4.2 10 5 5 1 2 4 7 5 92 22 23 L(5-5) - 4.28

Aug. 20 @COL L 4-2 6.0 7 3 2 0 1 6 7 3 93 26 53 L(5-6) - 4.21

Aug. 26 FLA L 7-5 5.2 8 5 4 0 2 2 8 5 89 24 30 L(5-7) - 4.35

Aug. 31 LAD L 7-0 2.0 7 7 7 1 2 3 3 3 56 15 15 L(5-8) - 4.83

Sep. 6 @STL W 5-2 8.2 4 2 2 0 1 3 11 7 109 27 65 W(6-8) - 4.67

Sep. 16 STL W 5-3 7.2 7 3 3 1 2 4 8 8 106 29 50 W(7-8) - 4.59

Sep. 23 HOU W 5-4 5.0 9 4 3 1 1 3 6 10 105 25 37 W(8-8) - 4.62

Sep. 29 @HOU W 3-2 7.0 7 2 2 1 1 5 7 10 92 27 59 W(9-8) - 4.52

 

 

I love absolutes, wrong again. He did have a couple of really bad starts in 2005 but overall he was good. (12 starts out of 15)

Why did we sign Rusch to a two year deal? He hasn't pitched well since 2004.

The genius of Hendry and his love for mediocrity.

 

Wait, are you saying Glendon Rusch is not mediocre?

 

If 4.87=4.00, then you are correct.

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I don't care how much it costs - I want Zito in '07, if not sooner. I'm sick of this half our starters being down crap. Give me a bona fide HEALTHY starter.

 

Zito hasn't been pitching well.

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hate to pile on also but jones throw is an example of what happend when you have a left fielder playing right field....any type of arm at all and they do not even consider trying to run!

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