White Sox aquire Alex cintron

[WrigleyinEngland]

I am amazed that when we needed middle infield help last year we couldn't get this guy. Wouldn't Van Buren of interested them?? Cintron has way more upside than neifi no question.

[SouthSideRyan]

Cintron isn't much better than Neifi.

[katway]

Cintron isn't much better than Neifi.

 

But his contract is far less than Neifi's and that may make him more valuable.

[rawaction]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

[UMFan83]

Link? Who did they trade for him? PTBNL?

[Backtobanks]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

[AlamoCub]

Link? Who did they trade for him? PTBNL?

 

Link

 

They got RHP Jeff Bajenaru, a soon to be 28-year old reliever.

[jjgman21]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

 

Cintron career OPS+ is 85

Perez career OPS+ is 65

 

ain't no amount of glovework making up for that.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

 

Cintron career OPS+ is 85

Perez career OPS+ is 65

 

ain't no amount of glovework making up for that.

 

Cintron may be a little better, but neither is good enough to care about.

[SouthSideRyan]

Cintron's #s look much better because of a 2003 that was way out of line with his historic performance. He will never approach those numbers again(Unless he signs with the Cardinals) He's also suspect with the glove iirc.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Neifi sucks as an everyday player, but he's decent off the bench. I don't worry about him coming into the game and messing up defensively. I'd worry about Cintron. I could care less about their ages. I care about their skill levels right now.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Cintron's #s look much better because of a 2003 that was way out of line with his historic performance. He will never approach those numbers again(Unless he signs with the Cardinals) He's also suspect with the glove iirc.

 

Winner.

[Backtobanks]

I'm looking at his 2005 numbers and they look pretty good.

[VVMattVV]

I'm looking at his 2005 numbers and they look pretty good.

 

.298/.415/.713 in 330 AB

[CoolHandLuke]

I'm looking at his 2005 numbers and they look pretty good.

 

.298/.415/.713 in 330 AB

 

If that was what that notation was supposed to be (BA/OBP/SLG) It would be amazing.

[Diffusion]

Ooh, Bajenaru got traded.

 

He's old now, turns 28 this month, which is what happens when you're a college draft pick and lose time to TJS, but this guy's got good stuff - low nineties heavy sinking fastball, good slider, complimented with changeup and a "slutter" (slider/cutter mix pitch) - and an even better minor league resumé, all out of the bullpen...

 

Career: 255.2 IP, 178 H, 15 HR, 102 BB, 309 K, 2.46 ERA

2004-05: 124 IP, 76 H, 9 HR, 42 BB, 150 K, 1.45 ERA

 

Keep an eye out for him. Good trade for the Diamondbacks I say, they don't really need Cintron anyway.

[rawaction]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

 

Cintron career OPS+ is 85

Perez career OPS+ is 65

 

ain't no amount of glovework making up for that.

 

How often did Cintron get on base? What about in 04? Looks awfully Neifish (with more power) to me.

[Backtobanks]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

 

Cintron career OPS+ is 85

Perez career OPS+ is 65

 

ain't no amount of glovework making up for that.

 

How often did Cintron get on base? What about in 04? Looks awfully Neifish (with more power) to me.

 

Let's put it this way, is there anybody out there that doesn't make a Cintron for Perez trade if offered? I would make that deal in a second.

[SouthSideRyan]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

 

Cintron career OPS+ is 85

Perez career OPS+ is 65

 

ain't no amount of glovework making up for that.

 

How often did Cintron get on base? What about in 04? Looks awfully Neifish (with more power) to me.

 

Let's put it this way, is there anybody out there that doesn't make a Cintron for Perez trade if offered? I would make that deal in a second.

 

That has more to do with Neifi being Dusty's pet than anything else.

[rawaction]

Cintron is 5 years younger than Perez, cheaper, and just 2 years removed from actually being a productive ballplayer. Cintron is a much better option in terms of cost, but he's not necessarily a better player. Neifi's defensive advantage is greater than the offensive advantage Cintron has.

 

Cintron hit .273 with 19 doubles, 8HR, and 48 RBI and hit .304 with a league-leading 3HR as a pinch hitter. His lifetime avg. is .279. He plays 3 positions, is 5 years younger, and he's much cheaper. Now tell me again that "he's not necessarily a better player than Neifi". Some people carry this "players who can catch the ball" thing too far.

 

Cintron career OPS+ is 85

Perez career OPS+ is 65

 

ain't no amount of glovework making up for that.

 

How often did Cintron get on base? What about in 04? Looks awfully Neifish (with more power) to me.

 

Let's put it this way, is there anybody out there that doesn't make a Cintron for Perez trade if offered? I would make that deal in a second.

 

I'd take it to save $2M. But that doesn't necessarily mean the Cubs are improved. Get a slightly better power bat off the bench, but get a worse player defensively and on the basepaths. The move helps them NONE in the important area of getting guys on base.

[DiamondMind]

He hit over 300 as a PH and can play numerous positions. However, this leaves the Sox with a curious seven infielders.