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I am trying to be open-minded and fair about the White Sox winning the WS, but I am getting tired of reading how brilliant Kenny Williams is. First, we heard that Ozzie was the greatest manager in the history of baseball and now Williams is the president of Mensa. I give him credit for making some very good deals, but some of those deals brought in players that had career years. The White Sox will again contend because of their pitching, but hopefully the Twins will rebound and the Indians will mature enough to compete with the Sox. Not too long ago, Williams was considered a front office idiot. I guess that's what comes with a championship team.

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I am trying to be open-minded and fair about the White Sox winning the WS, but I am getting tired of reading how brilliant Kenny Williams is. First, we heard that Ozzie was the greatest manager in the history of baseball and now Williams is the president of Mensa. I give him credit for making some very good deals, but some of those deals brought in players that had career years. The White Sox will again contend because of their pitching, but hopefully the Twins will rebound and the Indians will mature enough to compete with the Sox. Not too long ago, Williams was considered a front office idiot. I guess that's what comes with a championship team.

 

Baseball, like life, moves in cycles. I think Hendry is clueless, and he has rightfully taken a lot of grief on this board, but I suspect the Cubs' 2006 division title will change an awful lot of perceptions over the next few months.

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Stop listening to The Score.

 

I'm not listening to The Score, I'm reading the Tribune (which owns the Cubs).

 

I don't do either any more. I'm starting to like it. I hear no mention of the Sox or Cubs (unless I stop by here).

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I suspect the Cubs' 2006 division title will change an awful lot of perceptions over the next few months.

 

So is that your prediction - the Cubs will win the division? I hope you're right! On the other hand, won't that mean three more years of Dusty Baker? Hmm...

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I suspect the Cubs' 2006 division title will change an awful lot of perceptions over the next few months.

 

So is that your prediction - the Cubs will win the division? I hope you're right! On the other hand, won't that mean three more years of Dusty Baker? Hmm...

 

Yeah, but at least Dusty & JH will be geniuses for the next 3 years.

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Look at it this way- this time of the year following the 2003 season every newspaper was annointing Dusty Baker the genius saviour of the Cubs. Many publications were predicting a Cubs World Series in 2004, often citing Dusty's leadership as a reason for the prediction. And that was triggered by a 88 win season followed by a 6-6 postseason. "In Dusty we Trusty" t-shirts were big sellers. Guillen and Williams are getting the same props as Baker and Hendry did, but more deservedly so following a 99 win season with an 11-1 postseason.

 

Its all cyclical, and Guillen and Williams are both one sub-.500 season away from returning to the media hit list.

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I suspect the Cubs' 2006 division title will change an awful lot of perceptions over the next few months.

 

So is that your prediction - the Cubs will win the division? I hope you're right! On the other hand, won't that mean three more years of Dusty Baker? Hmm...

 

Maybe Baker will quit on a high note.

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I suspect the Cubs' 2006 division title will change an awful lot of perceptions over the next few months.

 

So is that your prediction - the Cubs will win the division? I hope you're right! On the other hand, won't that mean three more years of Dusty Baker? Hmm...

 

Maybe Baker will quit on a high note.

Maybe I'm crazy, but if the Cubs were to somehow win the division title, with this team as currently assembled, Dusty would have to be held partially responsible.

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Wait a minute. So Williams should win the World Series and get no credit for it?

 

The man made the moves, and they paid off. Good for him.

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Wait a minute. So Williams should win the World Series and get no credit for it?

 

The man made the moves, and they paid off. Good for him.

 

He deserves a lot of credit, but it doesn't make him a genius.

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Wait a minute. So Williams should win the World Series and get no credit for it?

 

The man made the moves, and they paid off. Good for him.

 

All Williams did was used the OLD CUBS FORMULA or acquiring players in hopes of finding that "lightning in a bottle". That's all. Unfortunately....Williams found the ultimate "lightning in a bottle" scenerio. Nobody would have traded Lee for Podsenick. Very few would had allow Ordonez to leave. And NOBODY would had given the current Jermaine Dye a 2 yr deal.

 

There are three deals he made, that I would give him EXTREME credit for....

 

1: Signing the solid Tad Iguachi.

 

2: Trading a journeyman former Top Prospect Alex Escobar for Jerry Owens, who could contribute as early as there yr, and is held in high regards with alot of people in baseball.

 

3: picking up Bobby Jenks off the waiver wire (don't like the kid, but have to question what the Angels were thinking :? ). Prolly their MOST important move.

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I have gotten crap from my Sox friend fans ever since that WS win.

 

I'll tell you as a die hard cubbie fan that Williams deserves credit.

 

Anyways lets hope the cubs can win, so we dont have to hear that crap from the sox fans in chicago at work

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I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree to the starter of this thread. The man won a World Series. It really is that simple. What else do you want? The entire point is to win.

 

If Hendry won the World Series this year, he'd be a genius too in everyones eyes. It's just easy for Cubs fans to be biased, especially against the Sox or Cardinals.

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