Cubs could be for sale soon

[wekse]

That would be neat if Cuban bought the cubs. You know he would put money into the team to go out and buy whatever player it took to win that World Series.

What makes you say that? He let Steve Nash go over money. Bad move for the Mavs. He doesn't throw his money around like you assume he would.

 

doesn't the NBA have a cap though? i don't know

[rocket]

Our owners now give us a 100 mil payroll? What more do you want?

[FadeToBolivia]

Our owners now give us a 100 mil payroll? What more do you want?

 

$100 Mil worth of players.

[Roast]

Our owners now give us a 100 mil payroll? What more do you want?

 

$100 Mil worth of players.

 

That cant win.

[Mark Priors Calves]

That would be neat if Cuban bought the cubs. You know he would put money into the team to go out and buy whatever player it took to win that World Series.

What makes you say that? He let Steve Nash go over money. Bad move for the Mavs. He doesn't throw his money around like you assume he would.

 

doesn't the NBA have a cap though? i don't know

 

yes, it does.

[VVMattVV]

I agree with Rocket here, we need different people running baseball operations, not owning the team.

 

I don't think a new owner would guarantee payroll going up. You can't be sure they wouldn't cut payroll either. Money hasn't been our problem.

[treebird]

I agree with Rocket here, we need different people running baseball operations, not owning the team.

 

I don't think a new owner would guarantee payroll going up. You can't be sure they wouldn't cut payroll either. Money hasn't been our problem.

 

i think the point someone made earlier about how cuban is very interested in statistical analysis in basketball and would likely be more of a saber-type in baseball is pretty notable though.

 

plus, even if the new owner isn't any good, it's not like im hugely concerned about the team getting worse. at least there'd be a CHANCE of new ownership changing directions.

[Brian]

and Cuban cares about winning, that's a plus.

[da bears]

Lefty wrote: "My point is that once these entities get their hands on the Tribune, the Cubs would be a prime candidate for sale to pay down the purchase price of the assets that these entities really want, the media properties".

 

---we can only hope and pray this happens. I just wish someone like Jerry Conegelio (sp), Mark Cuban, or someone else would make an offer.

 

--#26 Sweet Swinging Billy Williams (Formerly ITex)

 

Mark Cuban was on AM 1000 yesterday and mentioned a desire to buy the Cubs. He said something about wanting to take a shot with everyone on Waveland after every Cubs win

 

That man is my hero.

 

My thoughts exactly.

[erik316wttn]

I agree with Rocket here, we need different people running baseball operations, not owning the team.

 

I don't think a new owner would guarantee payroll going up. You can't be sure they wouldn't cut payroll either. Money hasn't been our problem.

 

But the people owning the team refuse to put in different people to run baseball operations.

[Jon]

I agree with Rocket here, we need different people running baseball operations, not owning the team.

 

I don't think a new owner would guarantee payroll going up. You can't be sure they wouldn't cut payroll either. Money hasn't been our problem.

 

i think the point someone made earlier about how cuban is very interested in statistical analysis in basketball and would likely be more of a saber-type in baseball is pretty notable though.

 

plus, even if the new owner isn't any good, it's not like im hugely concerned about the team getting worse. at least there'd be a CHANCE of new ownership changing directions.

For a hands-on owner, though, baseball is much more difficult than basketball. There are far more players and statistics, making it significantly more of a group effort. I'd love to see someone come in who can provide an equal payroll while instituting a better philosophy throughout the system, but I'm not sure how likely that is.

 

We need new management, but there are a lot of worse choices out there than MacPhail and co.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I agree with Rocket here, we need different people running baseball operations, not owning the team.

 

I don't think a new owner would guarantee payroll going up. You can't be sure they wouldn't cut payroll either. Money hasn't been our problem.

 

i think the point someone made earlier about how cuban is very interested in statistical analysis in basketball and would likely be more of a saber-type in baseball is pretty notable though.

 

plus, even if the new owner isn't any good, it's not like im hugely concerned about the team getting worse. at least there'd be a CHANCE of new ownership changing directions.

For a hands-on owner, though, baseball is much more difficult than basketball. There are far more players and statistics, making it significantly more of a group effort. I'd love to see someone come in who can provide an equal payroll while instituting a better philosophy throughout the system, but I'm not sure how likely that is.

 

We need new management, but there are a lot of worse choices out there than MacPhail and co.

 

There's also much more patience involved on the baseball end.

[rocket]

I agree with Rocket here, we need different people running baseball operations, not owning the team.

 

I don't think a new owner would guarantee payroll going up. You can't be sure they wouldn't cut payroll either. Money hasn't been our problem.

 

But the people owning the team refuse to put in different people to run baseball operations.

 

And if a new owner came in, they'd automatically fire Hendry and co.? Hendry is probably one of the more respected minds in baseball, I'm sure his job would be safe, even if a new owner came in.

[Mark_R]

I'm just curious since I really have no idea, but how often is it when new ownership steps into a situation that there isn't a major overhaul in player personnel?

 

My best guess would be that there'd be a very high rate of turnover, but I could be wrong.

[Fred Hornkohl]

I'm just curious since I really have no idea, but how often is it when new ownership steps into a situation that there isn't a major overhaul in player personnel?

 

My best guess would be that there'd be a very high rate of turnover, but I could be wrong.

 

We've had a major overhaul in player personnel without new ownership, no?

[Bgbird68]

IMHO, I don't see how any Cub fan would not want new ownership. The Trib bought the Cubs in 81 and they have made the postseason four times with no titles. No titles in 24 years? Please, sell.

[Guest]

IMHO, I don't see how any Cub fan would not want new ownership. The Trib bought the Cubs in 81 and they have made the postseason four times with no titles. No titles in 24 years? Please, sell.

Hey, the previous owners were 0 for 63 championship wise with a playoff drought of nearly 40 years thrown in for good measure. Give the Trib half a chance before you give up on them, will ya? ;)

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think the Cubs have a fair number of shortcomings as an organization, but the size of the payroll check isn't one of 'em.

[Lefty]

I really believe in this possibility, that's why I started the thread. While Mark Cuban is intriguing, remember the Steve Stone group that wanted to move the Expos to Vegas? The head of the syndicate was Lou Weisbach who used to run Halo Industries. He's a local guy. Remember all those Major League dugouts had "Halo" written all over them. The cupholders at Wrigley used to say "Halo" too. They were a specialty advertising firm. Anyway he has financing to buy a sports team. And if it's a baseball team, Steve Stone would be the GM. So in this case we would get the change in management.

[oldcubsfan]

Didn't Halo go broke? Stockholder lawsiuts also?

They would have to overpay big time for the Trib to sell to a group with Stone in it.

[Lefty]

Didn't Halo go broke? Stockholder lawsiuts also?

They would have to overpay big time for the Trib to sell to a group with Stone in it.

 

Lou got his money out. And it ain't going back.

 

As far as the Tribune selling, it isn't going to be this Tribune. It will be two private equity groups and the New York Times, Viacom/CBS or something like that.

[sweetpeteman]

The issues lie not with the money, but with the lack of any real plan or anybody with a pair of balls in management positions. What needs to be done is have the entire front office cleared out and new people brought in with actual ideas and plans, not this non-sense of copying whatever worked last year that we have now. The Tribune won't do this because of how much money it would cost to terminate certain contracts and go thru the hiring process. Instead, the instituional thought process will be kept because we are promoting from with in. A new owner would inspire change.

[Peoriaman]

the profit doesn't matter either.

 

 

Now this doesn't make sense.

[Mark_R]

Would stat guru Mark Cuban try and lure Billy Beane and co out of Oakland?

 

Theo Epstein and gang out of Boston?

 

I think he would.

[JWCUB]

Would stat guru Mark Cuban try and lure Billy Beane and co out of Oakland?

 

Theo Epstein and gang out of Boston?

 

I think he would.

 

I could live with that. :D

[Lefty]

the profit doesn't matter either.

 

 

Now this doesn't make sense.

 

Yes it does. It depends on how the group finances the deal. If it's highly levered, a decent sales price for the Cubs would increase the return on the other assets.