MJ or Cubs WS

[ConstableRabbit]

My friend from Atlanta posed this question to me, and I actually had to hesitate. What's your take?

[Andy]

Speaking as someone whose greatest regret in life is being born too late to fully appreciate the MJ Era, I have to say no. I would gladly go without a Cubs title for the next 20 years to see a once-in-a-lifetime player like MJ play for the Bulls or Panthers.

[sethuel1]

As someone who could care less about professional basketball, yes.

[Mark_R]

Speaking as someone whose greatest regret in life is being born too late to fully appreciate the MJ Era, I have to say no. I would gladly go without a Cubs title for the next 20 years to see a once-in-a-lifetime player like MJ play for the Bulls or Panthers.

 

Amen on the first part. God, if only I knew how good MJ was when I was a little kid, my basketball knowledge and appreciation would be much more advanced. I love watching him on the DVD's. Fantastic.

 

Cubs WS though >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.

[stitchface]

good question.

[Derwood]

I have many, many great memories of the MJ years which I wouldn't trade. sorry

[CuseCubFan69]

That was a very easy vote for me. Edited January 21, 2006 by CuseCubFan69

[TruffleShuffle]

As someone who could care less about professional basketball, yes.

 

As someone who could care less about professional basketball and who isn't a Bulls fan anyway, yes.

[barrettismyidol]

I'm not sure exactly why, but I have to vote no.

[CDBears1259]

I have many, many great memories of the MJ years which I wouldn't trade. sorry

 

Same here. Besides that and the fact that in my 30 years on this earth the Cubs have only come close a few times to even sniffing a WS I could stand to wait a few more years. Especially, since it would have been at the expense of watching the greatest BBall ever.

[Omar]

Watching MJ is like watching Babe Ruth... Chicago was blessed... Without him, or the Bulls, Chicago would look even worse at sports. Face it, this isnt really the best city for it.

[TB_11]

If the question is over the past 20 years, then I take MJ. If the question is over my entire lifetime would I have rather had MJ on the Bulls or a Cubs WS, I take the Cubs WS.

[Omar]

Did anyone else think this poll would be about Michael Jackson?

 

Although I like the music video "Jam" that Michael Jackson did with Michael Jordan.

[stitchface]

Did anyone else think this poll would be about Michael Jackson?

 

Although I like the music video "Jam" that Michael Jackson did with Michael Jordan.

no.

[Drew Doughty]

Easy yes for me. The Cubs are my professional sports team, and I don't care for basketball at all.

[UMFan83]

Nope, although no one can argue MJ's greatness, the reason I'm saying no is because it was amazing to see a team I cheer for dominate so long. I am a Bulls fan, not an MJ fan.

 

In the 7 years since the dynasty ended the 4 Chicago teams I care about have combined for:

 

5 playoff appearences (1 Cubs, 2 Bears, 1 Blackhawks, 1 Bulls - .71 per year)

9 playoff wins (6 Cubs, 2 Bulls, 1 Blackhawks - 1.8 per appearence)

1 playoff series win (2003 Cubs - 0.2 per appearence)

0 championship round appearences

0 championships

 

Pretty pathetic run, and I'd still take those years to have what we had from 91-98. Think about how many cities would die to have 1 title, much less to have a dynasty and one of the best players in the game all time play for you (I can think of Seattle and Cleveland off the bat)

[Transmogrified Tiger]

As a Cavaliers fan, I find this choice remarkably easy.

[XZero771679666304]

If it meant a Cubs WS, you could take the Bulls franchise out of the city. Hell, I'd even throw in the Bears.

[Andy]

In the 7 years since the dynasty ended the 4 Chicago teams I care about have combined for:

 

5 playoff appearences (1 Cubs, 2 Bears, 1 Blackhawks, 1 Bulls - .71 per year)

9 playoff wins (6 Cubs, 2 Bulls, 1 Blackhawks - 1.8 per appearence)

1 playoff series win (2003 Cubs - 0.2 per appearence)

0 championship round appearences

0 championships

Interesting - for me it looks like (only 3 teams here though):

 

4 playoff appearances (2 Panthers, 1 Bulls, 1 Cubs - .57 a year)

13 playoff wins (5 Panthers, 2 Bulls, 6 Cubs - 3.25 an appearance)

6 playoff series win (1.5 an appearance)

1 championship round appearance (Panthers SB 38 )

0 championships

 

I've had it better than I complain about, I suppose. Only problem is, with Carolina's murderous schedule this year compared with the Cubs' mediocre offseason and the Bulls' young uns, it's probably going to be at least February 2008 before another pro team of mine wins the big one. But, like you said UMFan, MJ made it worth it.

 

Edited to agree with UMFan's suggestion.

Edited January 24, 2006 by Andy

[UMFan83]

In the 7 years since the dynasty ended the 4 Chicago teams I care about have combined for:

 

5 playoff appearences (1 Cubs, 2 Bears, 1 Blackhawks, 1 Bulls - .71 per year)

9 playoff wins (6 Cubs, 2 Bulls, 1 Blackhawks - 1.8 per appearence)

1 playoff series win (2003 Cubs - 0.2 per appearence)

0 championship round appearences

0 championships

Interesting - for me it looks like (only 3 teams here though):

 

4 playoff appearances (2 Panthers, 1 Bulls, 1 Cubs - .57 a year)

13 playoff wins (5 Panthers, 2 Bulls, 6 Cubs - 3.25 an appearance)

1 playoff series win (.5 per appearance by a series team)

1 championship round appearance (Panthers SB 38 )

0 championships

 

I've had it better than I complain about, I suppose. Only problem is, with Carolina's murderous schedule this year compared with the Cubs' mediocre offseason and the Bulls' young uns, it's probably going to be at least February 2008 before another pro team of mine wins the big one. But, like you said UMFan, MJ made it worth it.

 

See I'd count the Panthers winning as a playoff series win. By that I meant advance to the next round (meaning that you aren't like most of my teams that are 1 and done - like the Bears, Blackhawks and Bulls are)

 

Of course, none of my teams has has as bad of a season as the Panthers had in 2001 (1-15)

[Andy]

In the 7 years since the dynasty ended the 4 Chicago teams I care about have combined for:

 

5 playoff appearences (1 Cubs, 2 Bears, 1 Blackhawks, 1 Bulls - .71 per year)

9 playoff wins (6 Cubs, 2 Bulls, 1 Blackhawks - 1.8 per appearence)

1 playoff series win (2003 Cubs - 0.2 per appearence)

0 championship round appearences

0 championships

Interesting - for me it looks like (only 3 teams here though):

 

4 playoff appearances (2 Panthers, 1 Bulls, 1 Cubs - .57 a year)

13 playoff wins (5 Panthers, 2 Bulls, 6 Cubs - 3.25 an appearance)

1 playoff series win (.5 per appearance by a series team)

1 championship round appearance (Panthers SB 38 )

0 championships

 

I've had it better than I complain about, I suppose. Only problem is, with Carolina's murderous schedule this year compared with the Cubs' mediocre offseason and the Bulls' young uns, it's probably going to be at least February 2008 before another pro team of mine wins the big one. But, like you said UMFan, MJ made it worth it.

 

See I'd count the Panthers winning as a playoff series win. By that I meant advance to the next round (meaning that you aren't like most of my teams that are 1 and done - like the Bears, Blackhawks and Bulls are)

 

Of course, none of my teams has has as bad of a season as the Panthers had in 2001 (1-15)

The best part of that season was that they won in Minnesota in week 1, then proceeded to blow 11 second half leads and 1 second half tie in the next 13 games, before they eventually just gave up and let themselves be completely destroyed in the last two games. It was a sad thing to watch.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Who gives a crap about the NBA?

[ConstableRabbit]

Who gives a crap about the NBA?

 

Well, part of the reason people don't care about the NBA is because Jordan isn't playing anymore. A significant number of ex-fans will tell you that.

[CDBears1259]

Who gives a crap about the NBA?

 

Well, part of the reason people don't care about the NBA is because Jordan isn't playing anymore. A significant number of ex-fans will tell you that.

For me it's not even that Jordan himself isn't playing. I remember the days of Bird and Johnson and enjoyed those years, but Jordan made me a basketball fan. I'm still a Bulls fan and want to see them do well, but I just don't like all these young guys playing and making so much jack out of college or high school who have never accomplished anything at the pro level. Of the 2 sports, I'm definitely a baseball fan first and foremost. That being said I still wouldn't trade MJ for a Cubs WS title.

[soapy]

As a Pistons fan, yes, yes, yes.