Big concern about Tejada

[NorthsideAvenger]

Guys.....there would be a BIG concern if the Cubs or any other team acquires Miguel Tejada. That concern is that Tejada could OPT out of his contract after the 2006 season, seeing he maybe dealt during a contract. And with the contract that Furcal got, and what Renteria and Cabrera got last yr....I am willing to bet, unless some team rips up his current contract, and signs him to a NEW contract starting at $15 million, Tejada is must assuredly going to opt out after the 2006 season.

 

So the question is....are the Cubs willing to go $15 mill per for 5 yrs for Tejada, provided they acquire him?

[ltb]

are you sure he can opt out?

 

I thought the mention of this is that he can demand a TRADE after '06 if he's traded during this offseason, as he's a player traded in the middle of a multi-year deal.

[NorthsideAvenger]

are you sure he can opt out?

 

I thought the mention of this is that he can demand a TRADE after '06 if he's traded during this offseason, as he's a player traded in the middle of a multi-year deal.

 

There is an clause that is kicked in, automatically (see Javier Vazquez) that allows a player the "right to demand a trade" if he is dealt in the middle of a multi-year contract. So yes, Tejada has that right now, if he is dealt.

[ChiCubsFan]

are you sure he can opt out?

 

I thought the mention of this is that he can demand a TRADE after '06 if he's traded during this offseason, as he's a player traded in the middle of a multi-year deal.

 

There is an clause that is kicked in, automatically (see Javier Vazquez) that allows a player the "right to demand a trade" if he is dealt in the middle of a multi-year contract. So yes, Tejada has that right now, if he is dealt.

 

Well being able to demand a trade and opting out are two separate issues. I would see why Tejada would want to opt out of his contract (more money) but i dont see any reason to demand a trade from the Cubs.

[sweetpeteman]

I don't think that Tejada would opt out of his contract or demand a trade. I just dont see him as doing this for money, but more because he doesn't like the way things are going in Baltimore (and neither do I). He is trying to force Peter Angelos' hand into either getting better players and actually making an attempt, or trade him and prove to the fans that he doesn't care about winning (I'm betting on the trade).

[Diffusion]

The rule is that if a player is traded in the middle of a multi-year deal, he can demand a trade the following off-season, and if his demand isn't met by March 15th, he can opt-out of his contract and become a free agent.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

From BP here

 

 

A player who is traded under this rule is prohibited from becoming a free agent again (or demanding a subsequent trade) for three years, even if his contract expires before three years are up. For example, Vazquez's current contract expires after the 2007 season, but if he is traded under this rule he is generally prohibited from becoming a free agent until after the 2008 season. The club that takes on Vazquez's contract will have "Repeater Rights" to him for the 2008 season, so if they choose to they can take him to salary arbitration for that year.

[Bruce Miles]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

[CUBZ99]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

 

Bruce, nice article today about Tejada. I just hope that Hendry shares your enthusiasm. Do you think Hendry views Tejada as someone that the Cubs would be willing to part with "untouchables"?

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=130468

[frostwyrm]

From BP here

 

 

A player who is traded under this rule is prohibited from becoming a free agent again (or demanding a subsequent trade) for three years, even if his contract expires before three years are up. For example, Vazquez's current contract expires after the 2007 season, but if he is traded under this rule he is generally prohibited from becoming a free agent until after the 2008 season. The club that takes on Vazquez's contract will have "Repeater Rights" to him for the 2008 season, so if they choose to they can take him to salary arbitration for that year.

 

So he can't opt out and become a free agent? Diffusion's post says otherwise. I'm confused.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

From BP here

 

 

A player who is traded under this rule is prohibited from becoming a free agent again (or demanding a subsequent trade) for three years, even if his contract expires before three years are up. For example, Vazquez's current contract expires after the 2007 season, but if he is traded under this rule he is generally prohibited from becoming a free agent until after the 2008 season. The club that takes on Vazquez's contract will have "Repeater Rights" to him for the 2008 season, so if they choose to they can take him to salary arbitration for that year.

 

So he can't opt out and become a free agent? Diffusion's post says otherwise. I'm confused.

 

 

If a player with at least five years of major-league service is traded in the middle of a multi-year contract, he has the right to demand a trade after the season. If the player so chooses, he can also identify as many as six teams to which he will not accept a trade. Notice of the trade demand must be given within the 15-day period beginning on October 15 (or the day following the last game of the World Series, whichever is later).

 

 

The player's club has until March 15 to trade him, and if they fail to do so, the remaining years on the player's multi-year contract are voided and he becomes a free agent.

[Bruce Miles]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

 

Bruce, nice article today about Tejada. I just hope that Hendry shares your enthusiasm. Do you think Hendry views Tejada as someone that the Cubs would be willing to part with "untouchables"?

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=130468

 

Oh, I think so.

[RynoRules]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

 

Bruce, nice article today about Tejada. I just hope that Hendry shares your enthusiasm. Do you think Hendry views Tejada as someone that the Cubs would be willing to part with "untouchables"?

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=130468

 

Oh, I think so.

 

Dear G-d I hope you are right, Mr. Miles!!

 

:fingerscrossed: :ohnoes:

[rawaction]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

 

Bruce, nice article today about Tejada. I just hope that Hendry shares your enthusiasm. Do you think Hendry views Tejada as someone that the Cubs would be willing to part with "untouchables"?

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=130468

 

Oh, I think so.

 

Hendry just should have signed Tejada after the 03 season, and gotten rid of Alex Gonzalez, even if he had to pay him to play for someone else. That move still irks me. Did he even try? You would think he would have had a good shot with his good buddy Sosa still on the team then, along with Alou and Ramirez.

[RynoRules]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

 

Bruce, nice article today about Tejada. I just hope that Hendry shares your enthusiasm. Do you think Hendry views Tejada as someone that the Cubs would be willing to part with "untouchables"?

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=130468

 

Oh, I think so.

 

Hendry just should have signed Tejada after the 03 season, and gotten rid of Alex Gonzalez, even if he had to pay him to play for someone else. That move still irks me. Did he even try? You would think he would have had a good shot with his good buddy Sosa still on the team then, along with Alou and Ramirez.

 

bygones

[UK1679666180]

Past dictates future though, A-Gone dictated a large portion of the Cubs' past (all in one play).

[cubweiser03]

Things get worked out all the time in this regard. If Player X is unhappy enough in one place, a lot of times he'll waive that trade opportunity to go to the new team.

 

Bruce, nice article today about Tejada. I just hope that Hendry shares your enthusiasm. Do you think Hendry views Tejada as someone that the Cubs would be willing to part with "untouchables"?

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=130468

 

Oh, I think so.

 

Hendry just should have signed Tejada after the 03 season, and gotten rid of Alex Gonzalez, even if he had to pay him to play for someone else. That move still irks me. Did he even try? You would think he would have had a good shot with his good buddy Sosa still on the team then, along with Alou and Ramirez.

 

Yes, ive been irked too for the same reasons you state. Time to make up for past sins and all will be forgotten.

 

If that opt out clause is executable by Tejada, the Cubs will have 24 or 48 hours to negotiate with him (after the trade goes through) and try and get that removed if it is a problem.

 

EDIT: Or wait, since this is the offseason dont they have more time, like arod and sammy deals.

[erik316wttn]

are you sure he can opt out?

 

I thought the mention of this is that he can demand a TRADE after '06 if he's traded during this offseason, as he's a player traded in the middle of a multi-year deal.

 

There is an clause that is kicked in, automatically (see Javier Vazquez) that allows a player the "right to demand a trade" if he is dealt in the middle of a multi-year contract. So yes, Tejada has that right now, if he is dealt.

 

Well being able to demand a trade and opting out are two separate issues. I would see why Tejada would want to opt out of his contract (more money) but i dont see any reason to demand a trade from the Cubs.

 

Um, he's ticked at Baltimore for sucking...... I'm sure he'd have similar complaints if he came here.

[NCCubFan]

My gut feel is that Tejada would be willing to agree to waive the right to demand a trade after 2006. After all, it would be at his own request that he'd be traded by Baltimore in the first place. If he wants out of Baltimore that bad I don't think he'd let a trade fall through because he isn't willing to waive that clause. The clause was intended to protect a player that was traded because his team wanted to trade him, not because he asked to be traded.

[JeffH]

My gut feel is that Tejada would be willing to agree to waive the right to demand a trade after 2006.

 

Why would he do that?

[Bruce Miles]

My gut feel is that Tejada would be willing to agree to waive the right to demand a trade after 2006.

 

Why would he do that?

 

He would do it to get out of a bad situation. The Cubs may even offer a little sweetener. I look for them to make a huge push here.

[cubscott34]

My gut feel is that Tejada would be willing to agree to waive the right to demand a trade after 2006.

 

Why would he do that?

 

He would do it to get out of a bad situation. The Cubs may even offer a little sweetener. I look for them to make a huge push here.

 

Bruce, do you think it would have to involve both Hill and Pie or would one of them with say Cedeno and a couple of other lower prospects be enough?

[jjgman21]

are you sure he can opt out?

 

I thought the mention of this is that he can demand a TRADE after '06 if he's traded during this offseason, as he's a player traded in the middle of a multi-year deal.

 

There is an clause that is kicked in, automatically (see Javier Vazquez) that allows a player the "right to demand a trade" if he is dealt in the middle of a multi-year contract. So yes, Tejada has that right now, if he is dealt.

 

Well being able to demand a trade and opting out are two separate issues. I would see why Tejada would want to opt out of his contract (more money) but i dont see any reason to demand a trade from the Cubs.

 

Um, he's ticked at Baltimore for sucking...... I'm sure he'd have similar complaints if he came here.

 

if I'm not mistaken, Tejada's complaint if the Orioles sucking and not doing anything about it.

 

there is a difference between that, and sucking but trying to do something about it, even though that something may not be the right thing to do.

 

I wonder what role, if any, Sosa's friendship would play in his willingness to come to the Cubs and work with Hendry to iron some of these issues out.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Wow, Tejada could potentially exploit a pretty massive loophole in the rules regarding long-term contracts.

 

Baltimore had absolutely no intention of trading Tejada this offseason until he DEMANDED a trade. Now if they deal him he can opt out of his contract and become a free agent next year, sign for more money and leave the team who traded for him with nothing. Unless, of course, the team Baltimore trades him to sweetens his deal and gives him more money. All because he FORCED Baltimore to trade him when they had absolutely no intention of doing so.

 

I can't believe MLB hasn't tried to close this loophole. If you demand a trade, you should lose the "opt out" automatically.

[JeffH]

Wow, Tejada could potentially exploit a pretty massive loophole in the rules regarding long-term contracts.

 

Baltimore had absolutely no intention of trading Tejada this offseason until he DEMANDED a trade. Now if they deal him he can opt out of his contract and become a free agent next year, sign for more money and leave the team who traded for him with nothing. Unless, of course, the team Baltimore trades him to sweetens his deal and gives him more money. All because he FORCED Baltimore to trade him when they had absolutely no intention of doing so.

 

I can't believe MLB hasn't tried to close this loophole. If you demand a trade, you should lose the "opt out" automatically.

 

There is no "opt out" as you describe it. If he's traded to the Cubs, he can demand that the Cubs trade him next offseason. If they don't or can't, then he can become a free agent on March 15th.

 

Anyway, Tejada can DEMAND all he wants that the Orioles trade him. They don't have to.

 

It's all perfectly fair.