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I think anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional. Having said that, it is fun to speculate.

 

Somebody once told me that about Nomar.

Exactly. If Jim Hendry is good at nothing else, he's good at trading prospects for good players. I never count him out of a trade idea. Considering pretty much all sources agree that Hendry was the one who engineered the massive four-team Nomar deal, you've gotta think there's some way we can put together a Tejada package.

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I can't believe we have a 19 page thread on a player who has absolutely no chance of coming to the Cubs. It's one thing if we've got a Dunn rumor or something and there's been talk about a trade on the radio or through writers and whatnot.....but this is out of control.

 

Tejada has ZERO chance of being a Cub next year - Bank on it!

 

Also, you can bank on the fact that Hendry won't be trading Pie for anything.

 

I think the 40 page Bobby Howry thread was out of control. There have been hundreds (guess) of pages on Dunn with no basis for fact. How is this any different?

 

In any case, none of it has any bearing on what actually happens, so what difference does it make? I apologize if that's not what you are getting at nolan, but I'm getting a little tired of hearing people say "Don't propose Dunn trades, it will never happen." So what? Who cares? This is an interesting philosophical discussion so whether it could happen or not is pretty irrelevant.

 

I just think these threads are an excuse for members to argue with each other for absolutely no reason cause he won't be a cub. If you want to argue, argue about REAL POTENTIAL MOVES, OR MOVES WEVE ALREADY MADE.

 

Where is the harm? You don't have to read the thread and you certainly don't have to respond.

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I think anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional. Having said that, it is fun to speculate.

 

I think they could get Abreu or Tejada. It's just not likely.

 

If they want to give up Zambrano or Prior, which isn't going to happen. For what we are offering (Walker, Williams, Patterson, Welly, Novoa, etc.), I repeat anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional.

 

They could also trade Aram, Murton, etc...

 

I doubt it'll happen, but we don't know.

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I think anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional. Having said that, it is fun to speculate.

 

I think they could get Abreu or Tejada. It's just not likely.

 

If they want to give up Zambrano or Prior, which isn't going to happen. For what we are offering (Walker, Williams, Patterson, Welly, Novoa, etc.), I repeat anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional.

 

I'm not sure I understand how anyone could stand to cheer for this team without being delusional.

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I think anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional. Having said that, it is fun to speculate.

 

I think they could get Abreu or Tejada. It's just not likely.

 

If they want to give up Zambrano or Prior, which isn't going to happen. For what we are offering (Walker, Williams, Patterson, Welly, Novoa, etc.), I repeat anyone who thinks the Cubs have a shot at Manny, Abreu, Dunn, or Tejada is delusional.

 

I'm not sure I understand how anyone could stand to cheer for this team without being delusional.

 

Best post on this thread so far. :salute:

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So, I decided to wander on over to Sons of Sam Horn to see what was up with this situation since the Red Sox were rumored to be interested. Needless to say, I found a bevy of fun articles.

 

Manny for Tejada Possible?

 

Yes, it is possible. The Red Sox called the Orioles and offered him straight up for Tejada.

 

That said, five to eight other teams seem to be in this thing.

 

Still, whether or not Tejada will be traded remains to be seen.

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whats so great about tejada

 

his numbers are really not much better than like milton Bradley

 

for real look at em

 

true he's a short stop and .300 avg and 25 HR is good for a SS and all that, but if we get tejada we still have john mabry starting in right field

 

Another Right handed home run hitter is not really what this team needs

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whats so great about tejada

 

his numbers are really not much better than like milton Bradley

 

for real look at em

 

true he's a short stop and .300 avg and 25 HR is good for a SS and all that, but if we get tejada we still have john mabry starting in right field

 

Another Right handed home run hitter is not really what this team needs

 

Well i dont advocate trading for Tejada and then not getting a RF. I just think that if you get a Miguel Tejada at SS (.350/.500) then you can afford to get someone like Milton Bradley or Cliff Floyd and that would be enough offense to have a decent shot at the playoffs/WS. I don't think you can, however, just trade for Milton Bradley and go into the season with that lineup.

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whats so great about tejada

 

his numbers are really not much better than like milton Bradley

 

for real look at em

 

true he's a short stop and .300 avg and 25 HR is good for a SS and all that, but if we get tejada we still have john mabry starting in right field

 

Another Right handed home run hitter is not really what this team needs

 

-Bradley has never had a season of over 100 RBI's

-Until Last Year Tejada had 5 straight seasons of 100 RBI's, he just missed it with 98.

 

-Bradley has only 1 season where hes had over 450 AB's

-Tejada has had at least 590 AB's for 7 straight years

 

Also, tejada is in the top 7 of almost every important stat category for SS's in the MLB, and in the top 3 in RBI, HR's, and BA.

 

While Bradley will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper, im betting tejada could pput his 2002 numbers hitting in wrigley (the year he won MVP), and be a huge asset at #5 in the order, behind lee and ramirez. That being sad, i think we can get both.

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Not sure if this has been posted, didn't want to start a new thread.

 

1. Bruce Miles story about Tejada and us. http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/beatwriters.asp?column=miles&id=130468

 

2. Bunch of people have said ( on ITI etc, I didnt hear it myself), that Bruce Levine reported Cubs have been in discussions with them abour Miggy ( No deals have been proposed but wanted to know what it would take), and that they were talking about Tejada for a while on espn1000 (pretty sure it was around 10 AM this morning)

 

Also, Levine said (the obvious), Rich Hill would almost certainly have to go.

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I think if we trade for Tejada, we might not have to ever see the Neifi Perez Show like we saw it last year. Hopefully Hendry realizes that Walker would best be kept, and starting at 2B. Cedeno could be apart of the Tejada deal, so walker would not be blocking anyone, and Perez would be specifically a bench player (which might not be that bad considering his hot start last year), backing up the middle infield.

 

Best infield in the NL, both defensively, and offensively? ramirez, lee, tejada, and walker, i think that might do it.

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Alright, Just heard it on the Update, Cubs HAVE contacted the Orioles per Bruce Levine, listen to ESPN 1000 (baseball 365 is the show) they will continue talking about it and i am pretty sure they said bruce might be back on.
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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

 

While you're dreaming BbB why not send them a manager too?

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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

 

While you're dreaming BbB why not send them a manager too?

 

I'd settle for swapping pitching coaches.

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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

 

While you're dreaming BbB why not send them a manager too?

 

I'd settle for swapping pitching coaches.

 

Jeeze....I forgot Leo went to Baltimore. Let's see him do wonders for Hill and Williams.

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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

 

While you're dreaming BbB why not send them a manager too?

 

I'd settle for swapping pitching coaches.

 

Jeeze....I forgot Leo went to Baltimore. Let's see him do wonders for Hill and Williams.

 

As long as said wonders are in the AL, and Miggy performs, I could care less what we send out of the minors. :D

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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

 

While you're dreaming BbB why not send them a manager too?

 

I'd settle for swapping pitching coaches.

 

Jeeze....I forgot Leo went to Baltimore. Let's see him do wonders for Hill and Williams.

 

As long as said wonders are in the AL, and Miggy performs, I could care less what we send out of the minors. :D

 

Aye captain.

 

I wonder if the Cubs can make the O's swear that Miggy has never tested positive for roids. Are there any precations the Cubs can take in that regard?

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Too bad Baltimore couldn't return the favor the Cubs gave them last year and trade a troubled player for next to nothing, meanwhile paying nearly all of his salary for 2006. :D

 

We could consider giving up Hairston Jr. and a couple of no frills prospects. They slide Roberts back to SS, and Hairston plays 2nd. :D

 

While you're dreaming BbB why not send them a manager too?

 

I'd settle for swapping pitching coaches.

 

Jeeze....I forgot Leo went to Baltimore. Let's see him do wonders for Hill and Williams.

 

As long as said wonders are in the AL, and Miggy performs, I could care less what we send out of the minors. :D

 

And please, lets not let the "send them a manager" boat sail too fast...if that's the dealbreaker, pack your bags Mr. Baker. In fact, lets just add that to the deal to be safe :lol:

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here's the real question:

 

if the orioles wanted to send miggy AND latroy to the cubs for any combination of the prospects/cpatt/jwill that have been discussed, would the inclusion of hawkins make u hesitate in pulling the trigger?

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here's the real question:

 

if the orioles wanted to send miggy AND latroy to the cubs for any combination of the prospects/cpatt/jwill that have been discussed, would the inclusion of hawkins make u hesitate in pulling the trigger?

 

No. We traded him once, we can do it again. Or we can just release him.

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here's the real question:

 

if the orioles wanted to send miggy AND latroy to the cubs for any combination of the prospects/cpatt/jwill that have been discussed, would the inclusion of hawkins make u hesitate in pulling the trigger?

No I wouldn't. I'd just find some other team that needs relief pitching and flip them LaTroy for a Class A prospect.

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