Wood and the Possibility he Misses the Season Opener

[treebird]

kerry should sue the cubs for being negligent and demand to be released. id support him.

[fiver]

Are you FN kidding me...if we know in December that he's not going to be ready for the season opener then it must be bad enough that he won't be ready for a month or so after that even...that's the very last straw...the last one...I'm done with him. Sorry Kerry, you had my hopes up for 6 years now...I've said "When Wood gets healthy" about 400 times.

 

Screw it. Just give me a guy who can put up a quality start and throw 200 innings a year...I don't care if his name is Steve Traschel or Jeff Suppan, I'm just tired of this constant injury crap.

 

Yes, the organization bears no blame in how they handled Kerry last year.

 

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

"Hi I'm Kerry Wood, I want to remain injuried and pitch in meaningless games to screw my next season, and possibly my career up, just to piss off Cubs fans that have held hope in me"

 

In the end, it really doesn't matter. Kerry's days as a top notch starter are over. The Cubs need to trade him to a team like Texas that needs a top notch closer. His stuff and temperament are better suited to that role.

 

First, I'm not certain that he ever attained the title "top notch starter" because he lacked that type of consistency over the course of a season. Additionally, I think it's premature to label his chances at having success as a starter again as slim. Let's see what he does this season (if we ever see him on the mound).

[bc2k]

Maybe if Baker wasn't so concerned about his personal goal of finishing .500, he'd have shut Wood down instead of having him throw out of the bullpen for a month. Had he done that, KW would be a month further along in his rehab.

 

I'm not holding Kerry responsible; this one's all on Baker.

[JC]

Another indefensibly moronic set of circumstances dictated by clueless management.

[Mark_R]

Another indefensibly moronic set of circumstances dictated by clueless management.

 

I believe his comments at the time were about Woody getting some sort of "ovation" for that game. Whatever. Want a meaningful ovation? Pull Woody when you're up 5-0 in Game 6 of the World Series.

 

Then again... maybe not.

[Mark Priors Calves]

What does this mean for his Charity Bowling Event?

[Laura]

ESPN is reporting on the Hotlist that Dusty Baker admitted the Cubs do not expect Kerry Wood to be ready for the 2006 season opener. Bummer, looks like Larry Rothschild knew what he was talking about.

 

Is this anything more recent than his comments from yesterday (and I think he had others the day before yesterday)?

 

Cubs.com[/url]"]One option Baker is counting on at some point in the season is pitcher Kerry Wood, who underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right shoulder in late August.

 

"At this point, I don't think we realistically can [count on Wood]," Baker said about his Opening Day rotation. "Idealistically, I am. The guy's making great progress. I'm in contact with our fitness therapy people all the time. They say he's in great shape, working hard, great range of motion. I'd like to depend on him."

[badger1679666666]

OK, so now will he not be able to even throw until opening day? If that's the case, he won't be back till June. But if he'll be able to rehab before then, he'll be ready maybe by the end of April (hopefully).

 

 

WOAH WOAH WOAH. He won't be able to THROW until opening day? Who the hell said this?

[CubinNY]

ESPN is reporting on the Hotlist that Dusty Baker admitted the Cubs do not expect Kerry Wood to be ready for the 2006 season opener. Bummer, looks like Larry Rothschild knew what he was talking about.

 

Is this anything more recent than his comments from yesterday (and I think he had others the day before yesterday)?

 

Cubs.com[/url]"]One option Baker is counting on at some point in the season is pitcher Kerry Wood, who underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right shoulder in late August.

 

"At this point, I don't think we realistically can [count on Wood]," Baker said about his Opening Day rotation. "Idealistically, I am. The guy's making great progress. I'm in contact with our fitness therapy people all the time. They say he's in great shape, working hard, great range of motion. I'd like to depend on him."

 

Idealistically? If there is one thing Dusty is good for it is humors quotes.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What exactly is the report? Did they say they don't count on him being ready? Did they mention a set-back? I see a lot of vitiol in this thread, but few facts.

 

Has he stopped throwing?

 

From the quotes I've read, it seems that the Cubs are saying that in their plans they can't count on him being ready, but that he still could be ready.

 

I'm trying to decipher is this really anything to get up in arms over yet.

[CubbieRich]

That he continues to work out in Arizona, but has not actually thrown a ball yet. Wood said that here at his bowling event. Hendry has said he will start throwing in January and that he may not be ready by spring training. Dusty's comments are just what Hendry, etc.. are being told by Wood and doctors. No one is saying how far along he is, but that he 'feels great.'

[badger1679666666]

Hendry has said he will start throwing in January and that he may not be ready by spring training.

 

So he WILL throw before opening day. Where did the not throwing until opening day rumor get started?

 

I swear I want Dusty's head on a platter for pitching him in games when they didn't mean anything.

[Neuby]

Guys it's been known for a quite awhile that with Woods Surgery there are no sure things thats why Hendry has Six starters right now ,seven if he keeps Williams.They don't want to be caught short if Wood can't go that first week of april. Really nothing new being reported

[erik316wttn]

OK, so now will he not be able to even throw until opening day? If that's the case, he won't be back till June. But if he'll be able to rehab before then, he'll be ready maybe by the end of April (hopefully).

 

 

WOAH WOAH WOAH. He won't be able to THROW until opening day? Who the hell said this?

 

Nobody said that. I was asking how far along he was in his rehab. I was asking if he'd even be able to throw by Opening Day, or if he would be able to throw before then.

 

I guess I should have phrased it better.

[fiver]

Guys it's been known for a quite awhile that with Woods Surgery there are no sure things thats why Hendry has Six starters right now ,seven if he keeps Williams.They don't want to be caught short if Wood can't go that first week of april. Really nothing new being reported

 

Gotcha...I'm still not pleased that Wood continued to pitch without true reason for as long as he did last fall, but I should have done a bit of my own research on what was being said in the original post in this thread. My initial interpretation was flawed.

[USSoccer]

Is there a way to edit the thread title, mods? ?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Maybe if Baker wasn't so concerned about his personal goal of finishing .500, he'd have shut Wood down instead of having him throw out of the bullpen for a month. Had he done that, KW would be a month further along in his rehab.

 

I'm not holding Kerry responsible; this one's all on Baker.

 

I agree.

[NCCubFan]

I'm not holding Kerry responsible; this one's all on Baker.

I think it's partially on Hendry; he could have overruled Baker and said it was time to get the surgery done. By delaying it I consider Hendry and Baker responsible for ensuring that Wood is ready to start the season. Him missing part of the season because of not having the surgery earlier is not acceptable and Hendry and Baker must answer for it if it happens.

[KatJ]

Just give me a guy who can put up a quality start and throw 200 innings a year...I don't care if his name is Steve Traschel or Jeff Suppan, I'm just tired of this constant injury crap.

 

No Trax - been there, done that. He's an SP version of Farnsworth - picture of him under "streaky" in the dictionary. And yes, you may get a whole year of good streaky, but do you really want to pay millions for a crapshoot?

 

As for the 200 inning guy, his name is Greg Maddux. He's not what he once was, but he can still get it done. Shame we don't have a crystal ball on stuff like this - offering the second year to Jon Lieber wouldn't have been a bad idea after all.

 

Maybe I should dust off my beads and say a novena that the Cubs get Zito. ;-)

[TheDude]

In the end, it really doesn't matter. Kerry's days as a top notch starter are over. The Cubs need to trade him to a team like Texas that needs a top notch closer. His stuff and temperament are better suited to that role.

 

At least the 'Wood's salary is too high for a closer' argument doesn't hold much weight anymore :).

[goonys evil twin]

In the end, it really doesn't matter. Kerry's days as a top notch starter are over. The Cubs need to trade him to a team like Texas that needs a top notch closer. His stuff and temperament are better suited to that role.

 

At least the 'Wood's salary is too high for a closer' argument doesn't hold much weight anymore :).

 

That's for sure.

 

But then again, the argument that he can't be a great starter and has to be moved to closer doesn't hold much weight either.

[Magnetic Curses]

can we please end this steve stone-perpetuated myth that kerry's mechanics are wrong?

[CubinNY]

can we please end this steve stone-perpetuated myth that kerry's mechanics are wrong?

 

Why do you say that? It is not just Stone who says that. All one has to do is watch him pitch.

[LoneStarCubFan]

For what it's worth, even if he didn't pitch in those meaningless games in August he still might not be ready for Opening Day anyway.

 

But that doesn't change the fact that Dusty's still an idiot.

[mg420]

can we please end this steve stone-perpetuated myth that kerry's mechanics are wrong?

 

no offense but when it comes to pitching, i think its safe to take the opinion of a cy young award winning baseball anaylsis over a fan on a message board.