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[goonys evil twin]

If you traded for Kearns, would you consider trading Murton in a deal for Abreu?

 

Gee. Maybe you could just trade Mitre for Abreu.

 

ABREU IS NOT GOING TO BE MOVED FOR A PILE OF DIRTY SOCKS!

 

(not that Murton is a pile of dirty socks, but come on people!)

 

I love you man, some people in here a delusional.

 

Where is the delusion coming from? Considering that ridiculous rip of my suggestion that Murton might be included in a deal for Abreu is what you are apparantly applauding, it seems to me that you think my suggestion is delusional. Explain that to me.

[hawkeyecub]

What's so special about Kearns?? Why does everyone like him so much?

 

He was DEMOTED last year! I just don't see what the fuss is about.

 

Kearns' decline caught me completely by surprise. But, unlike the decline of Patterson, Kearns had a history of very solid numbers, and didn't completely disappear.

 

He's still a question mark, which is why I would think it's unwise to let Kearns to RF equal your biggest offseason improvement.

 

No, not biggest offseason improvement. But I think we could really improve this team without making that big splash move. For example I think acquiring Kearns in RF, Bradley in CF and Lugo at SS would have a pretty big impact on this offense without any of them being major impact players individually.

[ManEatingTarp]

If you traded for Kearns, would you consider trading Murton in a deal for Abreu?

 

Gee. Maybe you could just trade Mitre for Abreu.

 

ABREU IS NOT GOING TO BE MOVED FOR A PILE OF DIRTY SOCKS!

 

(not that Murton is a pile of dirty socks, but come on people!)

 

What the hell is the point of this post, and how does Murton equate to dirty socks, and did you not read the "Murton in a deal for" part of my post?

 

Didn't notice your change. But where do you get off saying "come on people"? I never said Murton straight up. Why don't you take the time to read a post next time before trying to ridicule it?

 

Sorry gooney. Some of the trade stuff at Cards Talk is soooo off base that I usually come here for some sense of sanity. I'm just riled up. Sorry to take it out on you.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

This would be a good deal for the Cubs. However, they would still need another impact bat.

 

To get Aberu it's going to take a very good pitcher.[/i]

Edited December 5, 2005 by CardsFanInChiTown

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I like Kearns for Novoa + Mitre.

 

Kearns isn't a stud, but he's worth more than Novoa and Meat Tray, who are both pretty mediocre.

 

If nothing else, we get a guy with a rifle arm that can play limited action in the corner OF spots.

 

Man, Kearns always gets it rough from the Wrigley bleachers. It would be funny to see the same people showing him love just b/c he has a new uniform. :lol:

 

edit: oh, it's nolasco, not novoa. hmmmm. i don't know.

Edited December 5, 2005 by Meat&PotatoesMan

[HoopsCubs]

Kearns would be a fallback option in my book. He's got some attractive positives, but when it's that questionable if he can even provide average production, you have to take pause. And it's not like you can even platoon him with a good lefty either, because his splits, while entirely unimpressive the past few years, are pretty even.

 

Although, he does tend to have better OBP against lefties (50 points higher on average), and better SLG against righties (75 points higher on average).

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Mitre + Nolasco for Kearns? Absolutely, I'm on board. Mitre stinks, and while Nolasco looks good to me, he rates below Guzman and maybe Pinto, too. And, Ricky DID fail miserably at AAA the first time. Good risk/reward trade.

 

Kearns plays better when he plays every day, I really like the idea of Murton and Kearns in the OF.

 

And yes, I know Kearns' numbers have fallen the last couple years, but he fought a couple nagging injuries, he was yanked around with the whole Cincy surplus in the OF, etc...

 

Do it.

[UK1679666180]

If Kearns is the starting RF'er, this OF group will look about as below avg. as last years, assuming somone like Pierre is in CF and not the next Mays.

[Brian]

Where is the delusion coming from?

 

There's a lot of delusion, don't the Phillies want a front line starter for Abreu, they don't need antoher outfielder (Rowand, Burrell, Michaels). I also so someone say to offer Mitre & Nolasco for Dunn in response to that for Kearns which is ridiculous.

[badger1679666666]

This would be a good deal for the Cubs. However, they would still need another impact bat.

 

To get Aberu it's going to take a very good pitcher.[/i]

 

Get Kearns for RF, Wilkerson/Bradley for CF (patterson + prospect(s)), Lugo for SS (maybe)and we're set.

 

Even with Cedeno/Walker

Wilkerson/Bradley

Kearns

 

Collectively that is significant improvement to last years lineup.

 

Wilkerson

Walker 2B

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno SS

 

or

 

Wilkerson

Lugo SS

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno 2B

 

or

 

Lugo SS

Walker 2B

Lee

Bradley

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

 

etc.

 

You can really play around with lineup

[YearofDaCubs]

I suppose I would be ok with Bradley in CF and Kearns in RF.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

This would be a good deal for the Cubs. However, they would still need another impact bat.

 

To get Aberu it's going to take a very good pitcher.[/i]

 

Get Kearns for RF, Wilkerson/Bradley for CF (patterson + prospect(s)), Lugo for SS (maybe)and we're set.

 

Even with Cedeno/Walker

Wilkerson/Bradley

Kearns

 

Collectively that is significant improvement to last years lineup.

 

Wilkerson

Walker 2B

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno SS

 

or

 

Wilkerson

Lugo SS

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno 2B

 

or

 

Lugo SS

Walker 2B

Lee

Bradley

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

 

etc.

 

You can really play around with lineup

 

Going in to 06 with Murton, Cedeno and Kearns is a pretty big leap of faith.

[Blueheart05]

Per the 5pm update on WSCR, George Ofman reported the Reds either offered or were seeking Mitre and Nolasco for Kearns.

 

If thats what they were seeking, I'd counter offer with Mitre and Wellymeyer.

 

Why,Nolasco hasn't pitched a day of ML ball? I know Welly is inconsistent but he has to be worth more than Nolasco. Wellymeyer could probably fit in as a back of the rotation starter (somewhere) next year. Save Welly for another deal.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't get the hate for Mitre. Yea I'd send him in a deal for a RF, because he otherwise he would likely be a casualty of the 25man roster.

But he doesn't suck. He is pretty servicable. He can be a valuable end of the roataion type guy, especially now because he is cheap.

[goonys evil twin]

Where is the delusion coming from?

 

There's a lot of delusion, don't the Phillies want a front line starter for Abreu, they don't need antoher outfielder (Rowand, Burrell, Michaels). I also so someone say to offer Mitre & Nolasco for Dunn in response to that for Kearns which is ridiculous.

 

The Phillies talked of front line starters, but Florida has talked of Pie and Hill for Pierre. I don't think they will get anything close to a Z/Prior caliber pitcher, and a lot of the pitching that has been discussed by the experts has been no better than Jerome Williams. Boston's Clement/Nixon potential offer is right now standing as the best, but I don't think it's that impressive, or unbeatable. I bet Boston would consider trading Nixon for Murton straight up right now, given salary, age, health and likelihood for future production. Throw Murton in with some decent young, cheap pitching and a prospect or two, and you have a package that could net a lot of production in return.

[sweetpeteman]

Hendry heard the deal and, in an attempt to keep a straight face, burst a blood vesel in his eye and had to go to the doctor, but will be signing it soon...

[Andy]

This would be a good deal for the Cubs. However, they would still need another impact bat.

 

To get Aberu it's going to take a very good pitcher.[/i]

 

Get Kearns for RF, Wilkerson/Bradley for CF (patterson + prospect(s)), Lugo for SS (maybe)and we're set.

 

Even with Cedeno/Walker

Wilkerson/Bradley

Kearns

 

Collectively that is significant improvement to last years lineup.

 

Wilkerson

Walker 2B

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno SS

 

or

 

Wilkerson

Lugo SS

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno 2B

 

or

 

Lugo SS

Walker 2B

Lee

Bradley

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

 

etc.

 

You can really play around with lineup

 

Going in to 06 with Murton, Cedeno and Kearns is a pretty big leap of faith.

You're right. They're all too young. Pencil in Encarnacion, Neifi and Mabry for those three slots. Gotta break the kids in slowly, dude.

[badger1679666666]

This would be a good deal for the Cubs. However, they would still need another impact bat.

 

To get Aberu it's going to take a very good pitcher.[/i]

 

Get Kearns for RF, Wilkerson/Bradley for CF (patterson + prospect(s)), Lugo for SS (maybe)and we're set.

 

Even with Cedeno/Walker

Wilkerson/Bradley

Kearns

 

Collectively that is significant improvement to last years lineup.

 

Wilkerson

Walker 2B

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno SS

 

or

 

Wilkerson

Lugo SS

Lee

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

Cedeno 2B

 

or

 

Lugo SS

Walker 2B

Lee

Bradley

Ramirez

Kearns

Barrett

Murton

 

etc.

 

You can really play around with lineup

 

Going in to 06 with Murton, Cedeno and Kearns is a pretty big leap of faith.

 

Well that's why I really would like Lugo. :wink:

[Brian]

See I'll believe all these trades when they happen, the fact of tha matter is "SUPPOSEDLY" the Reds are offering to fill one of our holes with a dead end that won't be on the team next year and a big question mark, I'd seriously consider it

[CubinNY]

Where is the delusion coming from?

 

There's a lot of delusion, don't the Phillies want a front line starter for Abreu, they don't need antoher outfielder (Rowand, Burrell, Michaels). I also so someone say to offer Mitre & Nolasco for Dunn in response to that for Kearns which is ridiculous.

 

What they want and what will be offered are two different things. That is why Stark thinks Abreu won't be dealt.

 

No team is going to give a young #1 or #2 for Abreu. He is comming of less then spectacular second half and is aging. Plus he is making a mint.

 

If I'm the Cubs here is what I would do:

 

Eric Patterson/Dope + Pinto/Marshal (pick any two) and I'll pay all of Abreu's salary. That is for starters.

 

I'd also tell them I am willing to listen to ANY counter proposal

Edited December 5, 2005 by CubinNY

[goonys evil twin]

Per the 5pm update on WSCR, George Ofman reported the Reds either offered or were seeking Mitre and Nolasco for Kearns.

 

If thats what they were seeking, I'd counter offer with Mitre and Wellymeyer.

 

Why,Nolasco hasn't pitched a day of ML ball? I know Welly is inconsistent but he has to be worth more than Nolasco. Wellymeyer could probably fit in as a back of the rotation starter (somewhere) next year. Save Welly for another deal.

 

Pie hasn't appeared in the majors yet while Patterson has, but I bet Pie has much more trade value. Same could be said for Macias/Eric Patterson, or Rusch/Gallagher, and many other "experienced" players vs unknowns. Welly's service time hasn't exactly been steller.

[donobr]

Kearns failure last year might have been caused by girlfrind's problems.

[HoopsCubs]

Mitre + Nolasco for Kearns? Absolutely, I'm on board. Mitre stinks, and while Nolasco looks good to me, he rates below Guzman and maybe Pinto, too. And, Ricky DID fail miserably at AAA the first time. Good risk/reward trade.

 

Kearns plays better when he plays every day, I really like the idea of Murton and Kearns in the OF.

 

And yes, I know Kearns' numbers have fallen the last couple years, but he fought a couple nagging injuries, he was yanked around with the whole Cincy surplus in the OF, etc...

 

Do it.

 

Is it possible they could be interested in Kearns for the sole purpose of packaging him with Rich Hill to get Abreu?

 

As I have been hearing the Lugo and Huff rumors, I've been wondering if Hendry will keep Lugo, and then flip Huff over to Philly along with pitchers for Abreu.

[WrigleyField 22]

Per the 5pm update on WSCR, George Ofman reported the Reds either offered or were seeking Mitre and Nolasco for Kearns.

 

If thats what they were seeking, I'd counter offer with Mitre and Wellymeyer.

 

Why,Nolasco hasn't pitched a day of ML ball? I know Welly is inconsistent but he has to be worth more than Nolasco. Wellymeyer could probably fit in as a back of the rotation starter (somewhere) next year. Save Welly for another deal.

 

Pie hasn't appeared in the majors yet while Patterson has, but I bet Pie has much more trade value. Same could be said for Macias/Eric Patterson, or Rusch/Gallagher, and many other "experienced" players vs unknowns. Welly's service time hasn't exactly been steller.

 

We'd rather have Nolasco to use in the future in case we have trouble paying for all our guys. They'd rather have Welly who could potentially come in and start/ spot start. Sounds like a perfect fit.

[WrigleyField 22]

Kearns failure last year might have been caused by girlfrind's problems.

 

Is this supposed to be serious?

 

If it was a serious statement then I'd say keep him away. I don't want a guy whp is gonna let girlfriend issues effect his play.