Ok. Are we judging on that? Because that knocks out Beane and puts in Sabean. What I am looking for is a coherent set of standards that create a top tier (Beane, Friedman, Epstein?) that clearly differentiates them from Sabean, mozeliak, cashman, Jocketty, duquette, etc. You are looking for a reason to keep saying stupid stuff. I don't see the point in judging Theo's purposefully losing seasons the same as anything Cashman has been involved with. Sabean's payroll has gone up sharply the past several years but he hasn't been making it every season. There is plenty to be critical of but you're like the boy who cried wolf here.