J.D. Drew?

[rawaction]

How about gettting Drew and putting him in CF, and sign Giles?

 

=P~

 

 

Walker 2b

Murton LF

Lee 1b

Giles RF

Ramirez 3b

Drew CF

Cedeno SS

Barrett C

 

Wow..wow...wow...wow.

 

After reading that lineup, I am having a cigarette. And I don't smoke.

 

That would be nice. But I would hit Giles and Drew 2 and 4 (any order). They are likely to have the top 2 OBPs in that scenario. I would lean toward Giles at #2, because Drew has more power.

[Wheelimus]

How about

 

Corey Patterson and Jerome Williams

 

for

 

J.D. Drew and Milton Bradley?

 

 

They swap one head case for another, minus the vice baggage, and swap a bad contract for a very good starting pitcher.

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Drew

Murton

Cedeno

Barrett

 

rotation of

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

and $ to burn if we want to go after a Millwood or a Burnett

[YearofDaCubs]

How about

 

Corey Patterson and Jerome Williams

 

for

 

J.D. Drew and Milton Bradley?

 

 

They swap one head case for another, minus the vice baggage, and swap a bad contract for a very good starting pitcher.

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Drew

Murton

Cedeno

Barrett

 

rotation of

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

and $ to burn if we want to go after a Millwood or a Burnett

It would be nice but it's unrealistic.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

How about

 

Corey Patterson and Jerome Williams

 

for

 

J.D. Drew and Milton Bradley?

 

 

They swap one head case for another, minus the vice baggage, and swap a bad contract for a very good starting pitcher.

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Drew

Murton

Cedeno

Barrett

 

rotation of

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

and $ to burn if we want to go after a Millwood or a Burnett

 

I think LA could do a lot better.

[Wheelimus]

I don't see many teams giving better than that without L.A. eating any cash.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

How about this deal:

 

Cubs get: Castillo, Bradley, Drew, and Lowe.

Dodgers get: Lowell, Pierre and 2 million from the Cubs.

Marlins get: Walker, Nolasco, Patterson and another prospect from the Cubs.

 

Cubs line-up:

 

Castillo 2b

Bradley CF

Lee 1b

Drew RF

Ramirez 3b

Murton LF

Cedeno SS

Barrett C

 

Rotation:

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Lowe

 

That's not too shabby.

[YearofDaCubs]

I don't see many teams giving better than that without L.A. eating any cash.

Why would LA get rid of two of their starting OFs? It would make no sense. Can you imagine the fallout? It's not going to happen. I can possibly see one of them go but not both of them.

[YearofDaCubs]

How about this deal:

 

Cubs get: Castillo, Bradley, Drew, and Lowe.

Dodgers get: Lowell, Pierre and 2 million from the Cubs.

Marlins get: Walker, Nolasco, Patterson and another prospect from the Cubs.

 

Cubs line-up:

 

Castillo 2b

Bradley CF

Lee 1b

Drew RF

Ramirez 3b

Murton LF

Cedeno SS

Barrett C

 

Rotation:

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Lowe

 

That's not too shabby.

Again, LA is getting fleeced.

[CubfaninCA]

as has been said, i'd do it without LA picking up any of that deal, i'm not sure what it would take to get it done. probably not all that much if we're willing to ease the dodgers' load completely. bradley and drew would look great in right and center.

 

Probably not all that much? LA isn't Pittsburgh. The fans are pretty ticked @ them for being too cheap. They'd have to get back some name players for Drew.

 

if he was fired, in part, due to drew's contract, freeing up 44 mil for other purposes over the next 4 years might actually look like good thing for them. maybe they'd like to make a run at giles.

 

Drew's contract was a small part of the the firing, if any. DePo was fired over the current manager situation and "breaking up chemistry" by dealing off or letting go of core players.

 

Good luck @ making a run @ Giles when you have little to go w/ him. Winning 70 games can't be appealing. That team needs lots of help.

[Magnetic Curses]

as has been said, i'd do it without LA picking up any of that deal, i'm not sure what it would take to get it done. probably not all that much if we're willing to ease the dodgers' load completely. bradley and drew would look great in right and center.

 

Probably not all that much? LA isn't Pittsburgh. The fans are pretty ticked @ them for being too cheap. They'd have to get back some name players for Drew.

 

if he was fired, in part, due to drew's contract, freeing up 44 mil for other purposes over the next 4 years might actually look like good thing for them. maybe they'd like to make a run at giles.

 

Drew's contract was a small part of the the firing, if any. DePo was fired over the current manager situation and "breaking up chemistry" by dealing off or letting go of core players.

 

Good luck @ making a run @ Giles when you have little to go w/ him. Winning 70 games can't be appealing. That team needs lots of help.

 

if that team needs a complete restructuring, then it's going to get worse before it gets better.

[HoopsCubs]

How about this deal:

 

Cubs get: Castillo, Bradley, Drew, and Lowe.

Dodgers get: Lowell, Pierre and 2 million from the Cubs.

Marlins get: Walker, Nolasco, Patterson and another prospect from the Cubs.

 

Cubs line-up:

 

Castillo 2b

Bradley CF

Lee 1b

Drew RF

Ramirez 3b

Murton LF

Cedeno SS

Barrett C

 

Rotation:

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Lowe

 

That's not too shabby.

 

Make the deal before LA gets a competent GM! :wink:

[CubfaninCA]

How about

 

Corey Patterson and Jerome Williams

 

for

 

J.D. Drew and Milton Bradley?

 

 

They swap one head case for another, minus the vice baggage, and swap a bad contract for a very good starting pitcher.

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Drew

Murton

Cedeno

Barrett

 

rotation of

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

and $ to burn if we want to go after a Millwood or a Burnett

 

That would cause another riot in LA.

[CubfaninCA]

How about this deal:

 

Cubs get: Castillo, Bradley, Drew, and Lowe.

Dodgers get: Lowell, Pierre and 2 million from the Cubs.

Marlins get: Walker, Nolasco, Patterson and another prospect from the Cubs.

 

Cubs line-up:

 

Castillo 2b

Bradley CF

Lee 1b

Drew RF

Ramirez 3b

Murton LF

Cedeno SS

Barrett C

 

Rotation:

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Lowe

 

That's not too shabby.

 

If LA gets Delgado, you may have something there. Dodgers fans want a big name.

[HoopsCubs]

How about

 

Corey Patterson and Jerome Williams

 

for

 

J.D. Drew and Milton Bradley?

 

 

They swap one head case for another, minus the vice baggage, and swap a bad contract for a very good starting pitcher.

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Drew

Murton

Cedeno

Barrett

 

rotation of

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

and $ to burn if we want to go after a Millwood or a Burnett

 

That would cause another riot in LA.

 

Do any of you folks on the West Coast get the Orange County Register?

If so, did Jeff Kent ask for a trade today?

[CubfaninCA]

How about

 

Corey Patterson and Jerome Williams

 

for

 

J.D. Drew and Milton Bradley?

 

 

They swap one head case for another, minus the vice baggage, and swap a bad contract for a very good starting pitcher.

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Drew

Murton

Cedeno

Barrett

 

rotation of

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

and $ to burn if we want to go after a Millwood or a Burnett

 

That would cause another riot in LA.

 

Do any of you folks on the West Coast get the Orange County Register?

If so, did Jeff Kent ask for a trade today?

 

I only get it on Sundays. Not a surprise if Kent wants out.

 

Maybe the Cubs could get Kent, Lowe and Drew?? LA gets Castillo, Lowell & Delgado. Florida dumps payroll and gets Walker, Bradley, Choi and some other players. Am too busy @ work to put something realistic together, but can see a potential blockbuster between the 3 teams, as they've all dealt w/ one another in the past...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

LA gets: Lowell, D. Lee, maybe Pierre

FLA gets: Walker, LA pitching prospect, Patterson(if Pierre is in deal)

Cubs get: Castillo, Bradley, Drew

 

Sign Konerko or trade for Overbay. Finding a capable 1B after getting that talent is much easier than finding multiple quality outfielders.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

LA gets: Aramis Ramirez, Jerome Williams and Corey Patterson

Cubs get: JD Drew, Milton Bradley and Hee Seop Choi

 

Money is a wash. Cubs re-sign Nomar to play 3B. Hee Seop becomes our main LH hitter off the bench, and backup for Lee at 1B and Murton in LF.

 

1. Bradley, CF; 2. Murton, LF; 3. Drew, RF; 4. Lee, 1B; 5. Nomar, 3B; 6. Walker, 2B; 7. Barrett, C; 8. Cedeno, 2B

 

Outfield is finally solved, and the Cubs have barely dented the payroll, allowing them to sign a big-name starter AND a high-quality setup man (or two) for the bullpen.

 

I'd hate to see Aramis go, but with Nomar here, Drew fills a bigger need than Aramis. And while Drew is a huge injury risk, anymore, Aramis is nearly as big a one, too. And they make almost identical money.

 

Worth your consideration....

[Transmogrified Tiger]

LA gets: Aramis Ramirez, Jerome Williams and Corey Patterson

Cubs get: JD Drew, Milton Bradley and Hee Seop Choi

 

Money is a wash. Cubs re-sign Nomar to play 3B. Hee Seop becomes our main LH hitter off the bench, and backup for Lee at 1B and Murton in LF.

 

1. Bradley, CF; 2. Murton, LF; 3. Drew, RF; 4. Lee, 1B; 5. Nomar, 3B; 6. Walker, 2B; 7. Barrett, C; 8. Cedeno, 2B

 

Outfield is finally solved, and the Cubs have barely dented the payroll, allowing them to sign a big-name starter AND a high-quality setup man (or two) for the bullpen.

 

I'd hate to see Aramis go, but with Nomar here, Drew fills a bigger need than Aramis. And while Drew is a huge injury risk, anymore, Aramis is nearly as big a one, too. And they make almost identical money.

 

Worth your consideration....

 

I'd consider that, but Nomar on offense is more of a gamble at 3B. At his best he's slightly above average for a 3B, and if he doesn't perform up to expectations we're below average there. Also, if he has another injury, finding acceptable 3B replacement for an extended period is more difficult than at SS. You're right that Aramis is also an injury risk, but Nomar has proven to be more all-or-nothing with injuries, while Aramis is more of a nagging-type borderline DL injury guy(subject to change of course, injuries can escalate into worse injuries). Still, worth considering to try and get Drew and Bradley.

[CubfaninCA]

LA gets: Aramis Ramirez, Jerome Williams and Corey Patterson

Cubs get: JD Drew, Milton Bradley and Hee Seop Choi

 

Money is a wash. Cubs re-sign Nomar to play 3B. Hee Seop becomes our main LH hitter off the bench, and backup for Lee at 1B and Murton in LF.

 

1. Bradley, CF; 2. Murton, LF; 3. Drew, RF; 4. Lee, 1B; 5. Nomar, 3B; 6. Walker, 2B; 7. Barrett, C; 8. Cedeno, 2B

 

Outfield is finally solved, and the Cubs have barely dented the payroll, allowing them to sign a big-name starter AND a high-quality setup man (or two) for the bullpen.

 

I'd hate to see Aramis go, but with Nomar here, Drew fills a bigger need than Aramis. And while Drew is a huge injury risk, anymore, Aramis is nearly as big a one, too. And they make almost identical money.

 

Worth your consideration....

 

Hmmmm I know Kent's up there in years, but I prefer him over the ticking timebomb (Bradley). Also, I'd hate to have perennial DLer's as my 3 & 5 hitters. Not a bad idea tho.

 

EDIT: This may work ~ ARam & Walker for Drew & Kent. Of course, it depends on what Lasorda thinks, as he seems to have a ton of influence now. Getting ARam would be a marketing coup for LA. LA is nearly half Latino nowadays. Walker's younger and cheaper than the disgruntled Kent and there's not a big production fall off. Also, they save some cash which they can thrown @ a free agent. I don't think LA fans would mind them cutting costs, as long as they get a name player back.

 

The Cubs could then sign Furcal, and put Nomar @ 3b. Of course, they'll need a good 3b backup...

 

They'd just need to fill cf or rf depending on where Drew plays, and they'd still have Williams & Patterson as trade bait.

[CubfaninCA]

LA gets: Aramis Ramirez, Jerome Williams and Corey Patterson

Cubs get: JD Drew, Milton Bradley and Hee Seop Choi

 

Money is a wash. Cubs re-sign Nomar to play 3B. Hee Seop becomes our main LH hitter off the bench, and backup for Lee at 1B and Murton in LF.

 

1. Bradley, CF; 2. Murton, LF; 3. Drew, RF; 4. Lee, 1B; 5. Nomar, 3B; 6. Walker, 2B; 7. Barrett, C; 8. Cedeno, 2B

 

Outfield is finally solved, and the Cubs have barely dented the payroll, allowing them to sign a big-name starter AND a high-quality setup man (or two) for the bullpen.

 

I'd hate to see Aramis go, but with Nomar here, Drew fills a bigger need than Aramis. And while Drew is a huge injury risk, anymore, Aramis is nearly as big a one, too. And they make almost identical money.

 

Worth your consideration....

 

I'd consider that, but Nomar on offense is more of a gamble at 3B. At his best he's slightly above average for a 3B, and if he doesn't perform up to expectations we're below average there. Also, if he has another injury, finding acceptable 3B replacement for an extended period is more difficult than at SS. You're right that Aramis is also an injury risk, but Nomar has proven to be more all-or-nothing with injuries, while Aramis is more of a nagging-type borderline DL injury guy(subject to change of course, injuries can escalate into worse injuries). Still, worth considering to try and get Drew and Bradley.

 

Can Cedeno fill in @ 3b?? Him and Hairston could basically be utility men.

[HoopsCubs]

LA gets: Aramis Ramirez, Jerome Williams and Corey Patterson

Cubs get: JD Drew, Milton Bradley and Hee Seop Choi

 

Money is a wash. Cubs re-sign Nomar to play 3B. Hee Seop becomes our main LH hitter off the bench, and backup for Lee at 1B and Murton in LF.

 

1. Bradley, CF; 2. Murton, LF; 3. Drew, RF; 4. Lee, 1B; 5. Nomar, 3B; 6. Walker, 2B; 7. Barrett, C; 8. Cedeno, 2B

 

Outfield is finally solved, and the Cubs have barely dented the payroll, allowing them to sign a big-name starter AND a high-quality setup man (or two) for the bullpen.

 

I'd hate to see Aramis go, but with Nomar here, Drew fills a bigger need than Aramis. And while Drew is a huge injury risk, anymore, Aramis is nearly as big a one, too. And they make almost identical money.

 

Worth your consideration....

 

I'd consider that, but Nomar on offense is more of a gamble at 3B. At his best he's slightly above average for a 3B, and if he doesn't perform up to expectations we're below average there. Also, if he has another injury, finding acceptable 3B replacement for an extended period is more difficult than at SS. You're right that Aramis is also an injury risk, but Nomar has proven to be more all-or-nothing with injuries, while Aramis is more of a nagging-type borderline DL injury guy(subject to change of course, injuries can escalate into worse injuries). Still, worth considering to try and get Drew and Bradley.

 

Can Cedeno fill in @ 3b?? Him and Hairston could basically be utility men.

 

I suppose no one is untouchable in the strictest sense, but Hendry has pretty much intimated that Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Carlos Zambrano and Mark Prior are going nowhere.

[USSoccer]

Trading Aramis for that bunch would be a colossal mistake. There's no way Aramis is as much or more injury prone than Drew. Second of all, Aramis is producing at a higher level than Drew or Bradley. If you want Bradley, you can probably get him without having to give up your best offensive player. Plus, with Aramis working on flexibility this offseason, there's a good chance you won't see any of the hamstring issues this coming season.

 

Next, Nomar at 3b would be a disaster. Counting on Nomar and Drew is just begging for a combined 120 games on the DL and another losing season. Also, Hendry would not trade for Choi, as he probably sees no need for an actual backup 1B since Lee plays nearly every game, and has Sing in the minors in case of injury.

[CubfaninCA]

LA gets: Aramis Ramirez, Jerome Williams and Corey Patterson

Cubs get: JD Drew, Milton Bradley and Hee Seop Choi

 

Money is a wash. Cubs re-sign Nomar to play 3B. Hee Seop becomes our main LH hitter off the bench, and backup for Lee at 1B and Murton in LF.

 

1. Bradley, CF; 2. Murton, LF; 3. Drew, RF; 4. Lee, 1B; 5. Nomar, 3B; 6. Walker, 2B; 7. Barrett, C; 8. Cedeno, 2B

 

Outfield is finally solved, and the Cubs have barely dented the payroll, allowing them to sign a big-name starter AND a high-quality setup man (or two) for the bullpen.

 

I'd hate to see Aramis go, but with Nomar here, Drew fills a bigger need than Aramis. And while Drew is a huge injury risk, anymore, Aramis is nearly as big a one, too. And they make almost identical money.

 

Worth your consideration....

 

I'd consider that, but Nomar on offense is more of a gamble at 3B. At his best he's slightly above average for a 3B, and if he doesn't perform up to expectations we're below average there. Also, if he has another injury, finding acceptable 3B replacement for an extended period is more difficult than at SS. You're right that Aramis is also an injury risk, but Nomar has proven to be more all-or-nothing with injuries, while Aramis is more of a nagging-type borderline DL injury guy(subject to change of course, injuries can escalate into worse injuries). Still, worth considering to try and get Drew and Bradley.

 

Can Cedeno fill in @ 3b?? Him and Hairston could basically be utility men.

 

I suppose no one is untouchable in the strictest sense, but Hendry has pretty much intimated that Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Carlos Zambrano and Mark Prior are going nowhere.

 

True. After reconsidering, Hendry will probably need more than Drew & Kent for ARam & Walker.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

 

 

Hmmmm I know Kent's up there in years, but I prefer him over the ticking timebomb (Bradley). Also, I'd hate to have perennial DLer's as my 3 & 5 hitters. Not a bad idea tho.

 

.

 

The difference is that the upgrade from what we have in CF to Bradley would be much greater than the upgrade from Walker to Kent. Based on that alone, it would be better to get Bradley than Kent.

 

And just as people want to criticize Walker's defense, Kent is just as poor defensively.

Edited November 1, 2005 by vance_the_cubs_fan

[USSoccer]

Worth your consideration....

 

Hmmmm I know Kent's up there in years, but I prefer him over the ticking timebomb (Bradley). Also, I'd hate to have perennial DLer's as my 3 & 5 hitters. Not a bad idea tho.

 

.

 

The difference is that the upgrade from what we have in CF to Bradley would be much greater than the upgrade from Walker to Kent. Based on that alone, it would be better to get Bradley than Kent.

 

And just as people want to criticize Walker's defense, Kent is just as poor defensively.

 

Kent might be worse.