hahahhahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I'm curious to have someone say how Farnsworth imploded in Game 6 for the Cubs. Here is what happened after he was brought into the game with runners on second and third:

 

- intentional walk to Lowell

- Sac Fly by Conine

- Intentional walk to Hollandsworth

- Double by Mordecai

- Remlinger in for Farnsy

 

Farnsworth was brought into a very tough situation -- and immediately asked to throw four wide. You know, just to help him get his confidence, focus and control, I guess. Or to take away the extra time to warm up since Baker didn't have him warm to start the inning. He gets an out on the next batter. Then ha's asked to walk another guy and still keep up his confidence, focus and command. Then he gave up the double to Mordecai.

 

So, he was ordered to walk two guys and pitch to two guys. He got one of the two guys he actually faced out.

 

That's imploding?

 

I hate hate hate a reliever coming in and throwing an IBB to his first batter. Have the previous pitcher do it.

[Mark Priors Calves]

It was a helluva homerun by Pujols but I haven't heard anyone giving him flack for his walking down the first base line as he watched that ball sail over the train tracks. Manny Ramirez did the same thing in a huge situation 2 years ago against the A's and Barry Zito in Game 5 of the ALDS. Ramirez was practically crucified in the media for it and I haven't heard a peep about Pujols do the same thing.

 

He may have been less inclined to walk to first base if Berkman hadn't "danced" his way around the bases earlier, and if the Astros' dugout hadn't been high-fiving before the final out of the game, and if they hadn't celebrated on the field after Game 4.

 

You're making something of nothing. Every player isn't a Pete Rose type who sprints around the bases every time he makes contact.

 

I don't really care that Pujols did what he did, I was merely suggesting that Pujols has a squeaky clean reputation and he did the same thing Ramirez did. Manny is a showboat and made no bones about watching that homerun, its his image as a clown and as being arrogant that brought heat on him. Just seems like a double standard to me.

[goonys evil twin]

I hate hate hate a reliever coming in and throwing an IBB to his first batter. Have the previous pitcher do it.

 

Which is worse, having a reliever come in to issue the IBB, or having a pinch hitter come in for a pitcher and sac bunt? Donny Buntball did the latter all the time, while Dusty is infamous for the stupid pitching moves.

 

Oh wait, another: a guy with command issues throwing pitch outs.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Pujols should have been walked. to begin with. And Ausmus should be shot for calling for a two-strike slider to Eckstein when he couldn't touch Lidge's fastball.

[circlechange]

It was a helluva homerun by Pujols but I haven't heard anyone giving him flack for his walking down the first base line as he watched that ball sail over the train tracks. Manny Ramirez did the same thing in a huge situation 2 years ago against the A's and Barry Zito in Game 5 of the ALDS. Ramirez was practically crucified in the media for it and I haven't heard a peep about Pujols do the same thing.

 

He may have been less inclined to walk to first base if Berkman hadn't "danced" his way around the bases earlier, and if the Astros' dugout hadn't been high-fiving before the final out of the game, and if they hadn't celebrated on the field after Game 4.

 

You're making something of nothing. Every player isn't a Pete Rose type who sprints around the bases every time he makes contact.

Why is it so wrong for the Astros to be excited about an important home run, game-ending double play that nobody thought could be made, or being one out away from the World Series? Somebody earlier said "act like you've been there" when they were giddy before the last out. But the Astros haven't been there. The atmosphere was electric, they were up two runs with nobody on and two outs and the best reliever in baseball on the mound. Showing excitement in that situation isn't unprofessional, it's human.

 

I don't care if Pujols walked to first or not, but doubt he did it because of what the Astros were doing earlier.

[BigbadB]

Pujols always puts on a show after he hits a home run. Aramis does it a lot more these days too. I don't like anyone doing it. It's ridiculous.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I don't have a problem with Berkman's or AP's home run trots. It is afterall the freakin' playoffs and both home runs were huge.

[goonys evil twin]

I don't have a problem with Berkman's or AP's home run trots. It is afterall the freakin' playoffs and both home runs were huge.

 

But Pujols does that after every single homerun, what does the playoffs have to do with it?

[K-Town]

It was a helluva homerun by Pujols but I haven't heard anyone giving him flack for his walking down the first base line as he watched that ball sail over the train tracks. Manny Ramirez did the same thing in a huge situation 2 years ago against the A's and Barry Zito in Game 5 of the ALDS. Ramirez was practically crucified in the media for it and I haven't heard a peep about Pujols do the same thing.

 

He may have been less inclined to walk to first base if Berkman hadn't "danced" his way around the bases earlier, and if the Astros' dugout hadn't been high-fiving before the final out of the game, and if they hadn't celebrated on the field after Game 4.

 

You're making something of nothing. Every player isn't a Pete Rose type who sprints around the bases every time he makes contact.

Why is it so wrong for the Astros to be excited about an important home run, game-ending double play that nobody thought could be made, or being one out away from the World Series? Somebody earlier said "act like you've been there" when they were giddy before the last out. But the Astros haven't been there. The atmosphere was electric, they were up two runs with nobody on and two outs and the best reliever in baseball on the mound. Showing excitement in that situation isn't unprofessional, it's human.

 

I don't care if Pujols walked to first or not, but doubt he did it because of what the Astros were doing earlier.

 

 

That's fine. If you want to celebrate before the job is done, then you're going to have to deal with the egg on your face when it all comes crashing down. It's the chance you take. All Pujols did was walk to first base and watch his home run (which was pretty, you have to admit). Why is that so much more of a crime than dancing, giggling, and clapping around the bases?

 

The Cards (including Pujols) didn't celebrate after the win last night. They shook hands and headed to the clubhouse, despite it being one of the most dramatic wins in playoff history. So don't talk to me about Cardinal players "showboating".

[goonys evil twin]

That's fine. If you want to celebrate before the job is done, then you're going to have to deal with the egg on your face when it all comes crashing down. It's the chance you take. All Pujols did was walk to first base and watch his home run (which was pretty, you have to admit). Why is that so much more of a crime than dancing, giggling, and clapping around the bases?

 

Walking and staring at your work is showing up the pitcher, and generally poor sportsmanship. But many people tend to like poor sportsmanship nowadays.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

if Pujols played for any other team in the majors, he'd probably be my favorite player.

 

Adam Dunn just shed a tear.

[dalgreen]

It was a helluva homerun by Pujols but I haven't heard anyone giving him flack for his walking down the first base line as he watched that ball sail over the train tracks. Manny Ramirez did the same thing in a huge situation 2 years ago against the A's and Barry Zito in Game 5 of the ALDS. Ramirez was practically crucified in the media for it and I haven't heard a peep about Pujols do the same thing.

 

He may have been less inclined to walk to first base if Berkman hadn't "danced" his way around the bases earlier, and if the Astros' dugout hadn't been high-fiving before the final out of the game, and if they hadn't celebrated on the field after Game 4.

 

You're making something of nothing. Every player isn't a Pete Rose type who sprints around the bases every time he makes contact.

 

Man, I hate the double standards that Cardinal fans seem to place on players. Only in St. Louis, I guess. If it's no big deal for Pujols to stand and watch almost every home run, then I want Cardinal fans and announcers to quit shoving down our throats how "professional" it is when Rolen sprints around the bases when he homers.

 

I could take Pujols standing at the plate watching it in that situation but he does it every time whether it's a game winning homer or a homer in the eighth with the Cardinals leading by 8.

[goonys evil twin]

if Pujols played for any other team in the majors, he'd probably be my favorite player.

 

Adam Dunn just shed a tear.

 

Adam Dunn does not have tear ducts.

[K-Town]

It was a helluva homerun by Pujols but I haven't heard anyone giving him flack for his walking down the first base line as he watched that ball sail over the train tracks. Manny Ramirez did the same thing in a huge situation 2 years ago against the A's and Barry Zito in Game 5 of the ALDS. Ramirez was practically crucified in the media for it and I haven't heard a peep about Pujols do the same thing.

 

He may have been less inclined to walk to first base if Berkman hadn't "danced" his way around the bases earlier, and if the Astros' dugout hadn't been high-fiving before the final out of the game, and if they hadn't celebrated on the field after Game 4.

 

You're making something of nothing. Every player isn't a Pete Rose type who sprints around the bases every time he makes contact.

 

Man, I hate the double standards that Cardinal fans seem to place on players. Only in St. Louis, I guess. If it's no big deal for Pujols to stand and watch almost every home run, then I want Cardinal fans and announcers to quit shoving down our throats how "professional" it is when Rolen sprints around the bases when he homers.

 

I could take Pujols standing at the plate watching it in that situation but he does it every time whether it's a game winning homer or a homer in the eighth with the Cardinals leading by 8.

 

I like the way Rolen does it better than the way Pujols does it.

 

Happy?

[K-Town]

That's fine. If you want to celebrate before the job is done, then you're going to have to deal with the egg on your face when it all comes crashing down. It's the chance you take. All Pujols did was walk to first base and watch his home run (which was pretty, you have to admit). Why is that so much more of a crime than dancing, giggling, and clapping around the bases?

 

Walking and staring at your work is showing up the pitcher, and generally poor sportsmanship. But many people tend to like poor sportsmanship nowadays.

 

That's fine. I'd prefer that to an on-field celebration before you've won anything, but that's just me.

[dalgreen]

I like the way Rolen does it better than the way Pujols does it.

 

Happy?

 

No. The Cardinals are still playing. But it makes me wanna puke hearing Hrabosky always talk about Ramirez and the others who stare at their homers but then he never says anything about Pujols. As I said earlier, it's not just him, but a whole bunch of fans and STL media, too.

[dalgreen]

That's fine. If you want to celebrate before the job is done, then you're going to have to deal with the egg on your face when it all comes crashing down. It's the chance you take. All Pujols did was walk to first base and watch his home run (which was pretty, you have to admit). Why is that so much more of a crime than dancing, giggling, and clapping around the bases?

 

Walking and staring at your work is showing up the pitcher, and generally poor sportsmanship. But many people tend to like poor sportsmanship nowadays.

 

That's fine. I'd prefer that to an on-field celebration before you've won anything, but that's just me.

 

It's preference, I guess. But don't ever watch a basketball game, football game or hockey game because those guys always celebrate before the end of a game, especially in the playoffs, when the game is no longer in doubt and they're getting ready to advance.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I don't have a problem with Berkman's or AP's home run trots. It is afterall the freakin' playoffs and both home runs were huge.

 

But Pujols does that after every single homerun, what does the playoffs have to do with it?

 

I think the whole "homerun watching makes you a turd" thing is completely overrated. The only way I would have a problem is if the batter makes gestures to the opposing team.

[K-Town]

That's fine. If you want to celebrate before the job is done, then you're going to have to deal with the egg on your face when it all comes crashing down. It's the chance you take. All Pujols did was walk to first base and watch his home run (which was pretty, you have to admit). Why is that so much more of a crime than dancing, giggling, and clapping around the bases?

 

Walking and staring at your work is showing up the pitcher, and generally poor sportsmanship. But many people tend to like poor sportsmanship nowadays.

 

That's fine. I'd prefer that to an on-field celebration before you've won anything, but that's just me.

 

It's preference, I guess. But don't ever watch a basketball game, football game or hockey game because those guys always celebrate before the end of a game, especially in the playoffs, when the game is no longer in doubt and they're getting ready to advance.

 

 

I'd suggest that you don't watch them either, because there's WAY more showboating going on in those sports than what Pujols does by simply watching the ball that he just hit.

[K-Town]

I like the way Rolen does it better than the way Pujols does it.

 

Happy?

 

No. The Cardinals are still playing. But it makes me wanna puke hearing Hrabosky always talk about Ramirez and the others who stare at their homers but then he never says anything about Pujols. As I said earlier, it's not just him, but a whole bunch of fans and STL media, too.

 

 

You're certainly not going to bait me into defending Hrabosky. He's a stone-cold idiot, in my opinion.

[dalgreen]

I like the way Rolen does it better than the way Pujols does it.

 

Happy?

 

No. The Cardinals are still playing. But it makes me wanna puke hearing Hrabosky always talk about Ramirez and the others who stare at their homers but then he never says anything about Pujols. As I said earlier, it's not just him, but a whole bunch of fans and STL media, too.

 

 

You're certainly not going to bait me into defending Hrabosky. He's a stone-cold idiot, in my opinion.

 

No baiting, my friend. I just try to call 'em as I see 'em. I figured we could agree on Hrabosky.

[gus_dog]

I like the way Rolen does it better than the way Pujols does it.

 

Happy?

 

No. The Cardinals are still playing. But it makes me wanna puke hearing Hrabosky always talk about Ramirez and the others who stare at their homers but then he never says anything about Pujols. As I said earlier, it's not just him, but a whole bunch of fans and STL media, too.

 

HOM101 (Intro to Homerism) - This introductory course discusses the various mannerisms and approaches to showing support for the home team, regardless of whether or not they act like chumps. Can be taken in conjunction with HOM120 (Rose-coloured glasses)

[K-Town]

I like the way Rolen does it better than the way Pujols does it.

 

Happy?

 

No. The Cardinals are still playing. But it makes me wanna puke hearing Hrabosky always talk about Ramirez and the others who stare at their homers but then he never says anything about Pujols. As I said earlier, it's not just him, but a whole bunch of fans and STL media, too.

 

HOM101 (Intro to Homerism) - This introductory course discusses the various mannerisms and approaches to showing support for the home team, regardless of whether or not they act like chumps. Can be taken in conjunction with HOM120 (Rose-coloured glasses)

 

 

I don't necessarily disagree with the premise that's been presented. If you're going to have a problem with players watching their homers, then Pujols shouldn't be an exception. Personally, I don't see the problem with it.

[ManEatingTarp]

I don't know about the rest, but for last nights homer, Albert deserved to enjoy every second of that.

I think it was Reggie Jackson that said "When you hit a ball that far, you have to take a second to admire it"

[Tim]

I'm curious to have someone say how Farnsworth imploded in Game 6 for the Cubs. Here is what happened after he was brought into the game with runners on second and third:

 

- intentional walk to Lowell

- Sac Fly by Conine

- Intentional walk to Hollandsworth

- Double by Mordecai

- Remlinger in for Farnsy

 

Farnsworth was brought into a very tough situation -- and immediately asked to throw four wide. You know, just to help him get his confidence, focus and control, I guess. Or to take away the extra time to warm up since Baker didn't have him warm to start the inning. He gets an out on the next batter. Then ha's asked to walk another guy and still keep up his confidence, focus and command. Then he gave up the double to Mordecai.

 

So, he was ordered to walk two guys and pitch to two guys. He got one of the two guys he actually faced out.

 

That's imploding?

 

Oh yeah, I forgot to add:

 

Dusty's logic in giving the pass to Holla also escapes me. Farnsy was and is just as tough on lefties as righties. Holla was no bigger threat than Mordecai, who was on deck. But because of the L/R thing, Dusty put extra stress on his pitcher by taking away the open base.

 

Ack. Going through this inning again drives me insane.

I'm disappointed. I've seen so many people claim Farnsy imploded (or exploded or flat out sucked) in that game that I wanted to see someone justify it in the face of the play by play. I guess giving up one hit means you stink on ice these days.