Another opportunity for A-Rod?

[Jehrico]

Man, Yankee fans would eat Corey alive.

 

Maybe, but that doesn't mean Steinbrenner wouldn't give him a whack if it meant getting Wood...or maybe he flips him with Walker to someone for a different CFer.

[Andy]

I'd throw Wood, CPatt, and Walker at the Yanks for ARod and see if they bite.

I'd make that deal in a second. Hendry should give Cashman a call right now to see if he's willing.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

If the Yankees decide to go a new direction and turn to youth, and they might, perhaps you get them to deal A-Rod for a package of Corey Patterson (free option on him ever turning it around), Rich Hill and.....Felix Pie.

 

They free up loads of money and get our best prospect--at a position they need filled no less--our top pitching prospect, and the ertswhile "five tool guy" Patterson. We take on roughly $16MM a year in salary (less Patterson's $3MM) in exchange for the best player in baseball. And we put him back home, at SS, where he has maximum value.

 

A pipe dream, sure, but man would that be nice. All Hendry would need to do then is get his leadoff guy for CF (Lofton, Pierre or Bradley), plug in some veteran for RF like Floyd or Hidalgo or Burnitz, and we done with the position players.

 

A-Rod, Lee and Ramirez, you think we'd get a bit of offense out of that combo?? 8)

[NorthsideAvenger]

I don't think there's any way the Cubs get A-Rod and Romero for Hill, Cedeno, and throw-ins. The Twins get worked over in that deal. They don't need to clear THAT much payroll. They should be okay dealing one of Torii or Radke.

 

While stranger things have happen, I do agree there would have to be more to the deal. But a couple of things to consider: 1. Arod has maybe a good 4 yrs left of playing SS, before he'd have to PERMANATELY move to 3rd or 1st. 2. If the Yankees pick up some of ARod's contract, then I would consider adding Dope, Marshall, Gallagher, or Pinto into the deal. If the Yankees don't pick up some of the contract (say $5 mill) then I would offer up Jeriome Williams and/or another decent prospect.

[erik316wttn]

If the Yankees decide to go a new direction and turn to youth, and they might, perhaps you get them to deal A-Rod for a package of Corey Patterson (free option on him ever turning it around), Rich Hill and.....Felix Pie.

 

They free up loads of money and get our best prospect--at a position they need filled no less--our top pitching prospect, and the ertswhile "five tool guy" Patterson. We take on roughly $16MM a year in salary (less Patterson's $3MM) in exchange for the best player in baseball. And we put him back home, at SS, where he has maximum value.

 

A pipe dream, sure, but man would that be nice. All Hendry would need to do then is get his leadoff guy for CF (Lofton, Pierre or Bradley), plug in some veteran for RF like Floyd or Hidalgo or Burnitz, and we done with the position players.

 

A-Rod, Lee and Ramirez, you think we'd get a bit of offense out of that combo?? 8)

 

I'd trade Pie for ARod.

 

Of course, with our luck, Hill will be a perennial Cy Young contender, Pie will be on the all star team every year, and Corey will turn it around.

 

And A-Rod would hit .260 and have a meltdown about halfway through the 2nd year here.

[USSoccer]

I would trade Pie, Hill and Patterson for Arod and eat all of his salary. And laugh all the way to the W.S.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I would trade Pie, Hill and Patterson for Arod and eat all of his salary. And laugh all the way to the W.S.

 

Yup. And I don't think it's that far-fetched, problem is that it hinges on the Yankees wanting to move A-Rod for some reason. Just because he had a poor, brief ALDS hardly discounts his MVP year (again). But the NY fans and ownership are mighty fickle, so who knows? Maybe there is some Jeter-ARod friction, you never know. If there is, Jeter wins that battle every time.

 

I'd even sweeten the deal a little. Instead of Patterson, maybe I offer the Yankees Jerome Williams to go with Hill and Pie. Or maybe they'd prefer a reliever like Mike Wuertz or JVB. Whatever it takes.

[USSoccer]

I would trade Pie, Hill and Patterson for Arod and eat all of his salary. And laugh all the way to the W.S.

 

Yup. And I don't think it's that far-fetched, problem is that it hinges on the Yankees wanting to move A-Rod for some reason. Just because he had a poor, brief ALDS hardly discounts his MVP year (again). But the NY fans and ownership are mighty fickle, so who knows? Maybe there is some Jeter-ARod friction, you never know. If there is, Jeter wins that battle every time.

 

I'd even sweeten the deal a little. Instead of Patterson, maybe I offer the Yankees Jerome Williams to go with Hill and Pie. Or maybe they'd prefer a reliever like Mike Wuertz or JVB. Whatever it takes.

 

DKWG,

 

Nomally you and I don't see eye to eye, but I'm liking that idea. I know we give up Pie, but we're getting a top 3 player in return. I think I could handle that, if we got 4 years of MVP type production out of ARod. His salary isn't even all that awful now that Texas has picked up a good portion of it.

 

Yeah, I'd offer it. If the Yankees turn it down, oh well, but at least you tried.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I would trade Pie, Hill and Patterson for Arod and eat all of his salary. And laugh all the way to the W.S.

 

Yup. And I don't think it's that far-fetched, problem is that it hinges on the Yankees wanting to move A-Rod for some reason. Just because he had a poor, brief ALDS hardly discounts his MVP year (again). But the NY fans and ownership are mighty fickle, so who knows? Maybe there is some Jeter-ARod friction, you never know. If there is, Jeter wins that battle every time.

 

I'd even sweeten the deal a little. Instead of Patterson, maybe I offer the Yankees Jerome Williams to go with Hill and Pie. Or maybe they'd prefer a reliever like Mike Wuertz or JVB. Whatever it takes.

 

DKWG,

 

Nomally you and I don't see eye to eye, but I'm liking that idea. I know we give up Pie, but we're getting a top 3 player in return. I think I could handle that, if we got 4 years of MVP type production out of ARod. His salary isn't even all that awful now that Texas has picked up a good portion of it.

 

Yeah, I'd offer it. If the Yankees turn it down, oh well, but at least you tried.

 

Unless I'm mistaken, after taking the Rangers $$ pickup into account, A-Rod is actually paid less (going forward) than Todd Helton, Carlos Beltran, Manny Ramirez or Jim Thome. Wow.

 

In fact Soccer, let's make this easy on Jim Hendry. Four moves and you're done for the offseason, and you've got yourself a pennant favorite.

 

1. Trade Patterson, Hill and Pie for A-Rod (SS)

2. Trade Walker for Bradley (CF)

3. Sign free agent Brian Giles (RF)

4. Sign free agent reliever Scott Linebrink (setup).

 

Cedeno gets the 2B job with Hairston as backup; Murton gets the LF job. Stick with Z, Prior, Wood, Maddux, and Williams for your rotation, and hope that if one of them goes down hurt, then either Pinto, Ryu or Nolasco in AAA can pick up the slack.

 

Do it.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

1. Trade Patterson, Hill and Pie for A-Rod (SS)

 

Why in the world would the yankee's do this? If they shopped ARod around don't you think they could do better? Remember the yanks don't realy need payroll relief.

[USSoccer]

1. Trade Patterson, Hill and Pie for A-Rod (SS)

 

Why in the world would the yankee's do this? If they shopped ARod around don't you think they could do better? Remember the yanks don't realy need payroll relief.

 

You might include Williams or Walker, but I think NY would be interested in getting Pie to play CF.

[erik316wttn]

I think Pie would definately get the Yankees to the bargaining table.

 

What we throw in with him, however, would obviously make or break the deal.

[USSoccer]

I think Pie would definately get the Yankees to the bargaining table.

 

What we throw in with him, however, would obviously make or break the deal.

 

I think it's a conversation worth having. It's not like trading Pie for Preston Wilson or Aubrey Huff. ARod is a top 3 player. Offer Pie and see if they bite. If they don't, you've wasted minutes on a cell plan, and nothing more.

[erik316wttn]

I think Pie would definately get the Yankees to the bargaining table.

 

What we throw in with him, however, would obviously make or break the deal.

 

I think it's a conversation worth having. It's not like trading Pie for Preston Wilson or Aubrey Huff. ARod is a top 3 player. Offer Pie and see if they bite. If they don't, you've wasted minutes on a cell plan, and nothing more.

 

I agree. Like I said, make an initial offer revolving around Pie and see who we have that they'd be interested in, and see what you can do.

 

I'd definately do Pie, Hill, and Corey for A-Rod. Hell, I'd even throw in Williams, or even Walker if they twisted my arm.

 

Although preferably I'd keep Walker and have him at 2nd with Cedeno as a Super Sub.

[Jehrico]

1. Trade Patterson, Hill and Pie for A-Rod (SS)

 

Why in the world would the yankee's do this? If they shopped ARod around don't you think they could do better? Remember the yanks don't realy need payroll relief.

 

You might include Williams or Walker, but I think NY would be interested in getting Pie to play CF.

 

I think Cardsfaninchitown is right. It won't be too hard for them to do as good as Pie in CF or better (in the short term, and you know that is how they operate), especially if ARod is what they are offering. What the Yanks REALLY need is that front of the rotation pitcher, and there are no true aces on the FA market this winter. Millwood and Burnett are talented, and I wouldn't mind Hendry picking either up to bolster our rotation, but they're not Ace caliber pitchers. I can't think of any other teams offering up any true Aces for trade this early in the offseason. For all of Wood's history with injuries, if we put him on the market, he'd be the best possible pitcher they could pick up. I don't think we can get Arod without giving up one of Wood, Prior, or Zambrano, and I don't want to see Prior or Z go (not crazy about trading Wood either, but for ARod, I'd do it).

 

Even with Wood, you might have to give up Pie still. I'd be more hesitant, but I'd still go for it (maybe induce them to do a Walker for Cano in addition if they want Wood AND Pie).

[CubfaninCA]

Youth to the Yankees is guys under 30. They aren't going to turn to prospects with potential, especially if they're trading one of the best players in the game. The Cubs will have to give up one of their big name players, at the least. MAYBE NY would take Wood, Pie, and another player for ARod. Doubtful though.

[frostwyrm]

You won't get ARod for spare parts. You'd have to give up at least one superstar, which means Z or ARam. If I ran the Yanks I'd demand Z.

[LuckyPup]

If I nabbed 2 starters(one FA another via trade), say, Burnett+Escobar I would deal Z in a heartbeat for Arod- But only if I got 2 more solid starters for the rotation-I for one don't believe Wood should be counted upon to return for the start of the season so we need another couple of solid rotation guys, and Escobar would be a good swing man for the pen as well-

[biittner77]

Working with a couple assumptions:

1) Yankees will demand big names for Arod

2) Yankees are not interested in getting younger so much as they are getting back to the WS.

 

 

Yankees get:

 

Prior

Ramirez

Walker

Patterson

Wellemeyer

 

Cubs get:

 

Arod

Cano

 

Cubs then re sign Nomar to play 3rd and move Arod to SS. They also sign Burnett. Of course they'll need a LH hitting RF but that's already the case.

 

Fire away

[CuseCubFan69]

Working with a couple assumptions:

1) Yankees will demand big names for Arod

2) Yankees are not interested in getting younger so much as they are getting back to the WS.

 

 

Yankees get:

 

Prior

Ramirez

Walker

Patterson

Wellemeyer

 

Cubs get:

 

Arod

Cano

 

Cubs then re sign Nomar to play 3rd and move Arod to SS. They also sign Burnett. Of course they'll need a LH hitting RF but that's already the case.

 

Fire away

 

You're fired! No way do I make that trade. I think Prior or Ramirez and the others would be enough.

[erik316wttn]

Working with a couple assumptions:

1) Yankees will demand big names for Arod

2) Yankees are not interested in getting younger so much as they are getting back to the WS.

 

 

Yankees get:

 

Prior

Ramirez

Walker

Patterson

Wellemeyer

 

Cubs get:

 

Arod

Cano

 

Cubs then re sign Nomar to play 3rd and move Arod to SS. They also sign Burnett. Of course they'll need a LH hitting RF but that's already the case.

 

Fire away

 

We're giving up WAY too much there. No way do we trade Prior AND ARam for A-Rod. I don't think a single player in baseball is worth both Prior AND ARam.

[biittner77]

But they'd also be getting Cano who should be pretty good.

 

Also, the Yankees are going to want a big time pitcher for Arod and I'd rather trade Prior than Zambrano if I had to chose between the two.

 

Patterson and Wellemeyer are nothing. The only part that hurts is giving up Prior. However, considering how good the offense would be all the Cubs would have to do is pull a Cardinals and pull an ace pitcher out of nowhere.

[erik316wttn]

But they'd also be getting Cano who should be pretty good.

 

Also, the Yankees are going to want a big time pitcher for Arod and I'd rather trade Prior than Zambrano if I had to chose between the two.

 

Patterson and Wellemeyer are nothing. The only part that hurts is giving up Prior. However, considering how good the offense would be all the Cubs would have to do is pull a Cardinals and pull an ace pitcher out of nowhere.

 

I'd rather have Prior and ARam than ARod, and Walker rather than Cano.

[CuseCubFan69]

But they'd also be getting Cano who should be pretty good.

 

Also, the Yankees are going to want a big time pitcher for Arod and I'd rather trade Prior than Zambrano if I had to chose between the two.

 

Patterson and Wellemeyer are nothing. The only part that hurts is giving up Prior. However, considering how good the offense would be all the Cubs would have to do is pull a Cardinals and pull an ace pitcher out of nowhere.

 

I'd rather deal Prior then Z too. I just think that Prior, Walker, CPatt and a young pitcher are more then enough for ARod and Cano. Also, how much money is involved? Are the Yanks sending cash or are the Cubs paying the whole deal?

[nilodnayr]

I dont want to wade through the pages, but some one tell me what the yanks are going to do at third?