Lee Situation

[Jazz]

Derek had a monstrous year this year, and probably the best for the cub since sosa's MVP season. His value has never been higher, and i dont think it will ever be. He is way underpaid for his production, and a team that needs one big bat and a 1B for the next 4-5 years would salavate at a deal for him. I just dont think lee will ever hit as well as he did this year agian, maybe marginally higher than his career norms, a line like .300/.380/.550 might be a reality next season.

Id like to see wat a package of him and someone like hill or williams could bring in.

[Wheelimus]

No way, you don't trade away your best players, we have a 100 million dollar payroll, we can keep our All-Stars.

 

I want Lee signed to an extension this off-season...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

No way, you don't trade away your best players, we have a 100 million dollar payroll, we can keep our All-Stars.

 

I want Lee signed to an extension this off-season...

 

What if trading Lee got you another All-Star, possibly one younger and more likely to stay at their current numbers than Lee? There's a lot of good hitting 1B, I'd explore the possiblity.

[reggiemiller rules]

No way, you don't trade away your best players, we have a 100 million dollar payroll, we can keep our All-Stars.

 

I want Lee signed to an extension this off-season...

 

What if trading Lee got you another All-Star, possibly one younger and more likely to stay at their current numbers than Lee? There's a lot of good hitting 1B, I'd explore the possiblity.

 

The only way I would consider trading Lee is if maybe it is to Texas for Mench and Gonzalez who is gonna be a stud hitting 1B if you can give up Lee and a midlevel prospect for Mench, Gonzalez and another prospect maybe. Then they could have Texiera be the DH. But i dont see Texas doing this deal becasue they need pitching.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

No way, you don't trade away your best players, we have a 100 million dollar payroll, we can keep our All-Stars.

 

I want Lee signed to an extension this off-season...

 

What if trading Lee got you another All-Star, possibly one younger and more likely to stay at their current numbers than Lee? There's a lot of good hitting 1B, I'd explore the possiblity.

 

The only way I would consider trading Lee is if maybe it is to Texas for Mench and Gonzalez who is gonna be a stud hitting 1B if you can give up Lee and a midlevel prospect for Mench, Gonzalez and another prospect maybe. Then they could have Texiera be the DH. But i dont see Texas doing this deal becasue they need pitching.

 

Lee to LA

Cubs prospect(s) to Milwaukee

LA prospects to Cincy

Dunn to Chicago

Overbay to Chicago

 

Just throwing it out there.

[AAApittsburgh]

No way, you don't trade away your best players, we have a 100 million dollar payroll, we can keep our All-Stars.

 

I want Lee signed to an extension this off-season...

 

What if trading Lee got you another All-Star, possibly one younger and more likely to stay at their current numbers than Lee? There's a lot of good hitting 1B, I'd explore the possiblity.

I agree. I think Lee could get us a very good OFer and a pitching prospect or a reliever who can help the team next year. To fill the hole at 1B, Cubs can look into getting someone like Helton. If Lee was a couple years younger and was locked up for more than one more year, I'd be against it. It would be nice to see Hendry sell high. It seems like he hasn't done that in a while.

[CUBZ99]

Why would you want to trade an underpaid 1b who has triple crown and gold glove potential? Lee is one of the few players on the whole team that actually has played consistently well.

 

I can understand why you would want to upgrade at other positions, but unless you are getting Pujols from the Cards is seems ill advised to get rid of him.

[XZero771679666304]

Derek had a monstrous year this year, and probably the best for the cub since sosa's MVP season. His value has never been higher, and i dont think it will ever be. He is way underpaid for his production, and a team that needs one big bat and a 1B for the next 4-5 years would salavate at a deal for him. I just dont think lee will ever hit as well as he did this year agian, maybe marginally higher than his career norms, a line like .300/.380/.550 might be a reality next season.

Id like to see wat a package of him and someone like hill or williams could bring in.

 

Not to nitpick, but Sosa's 2001 season was better than his MVP season.

 

As for Lee, I'd trade him, but only for a very good return. I may just be too tired, but I can't think of any teams that need a 1B who could give us an adequate young power bat in return. At least none that I would want to have Lee.

[AAApittsburgh]

Why would you want to trade an underpaid 1b who has triple crown and gold glove potential? Lee is one of the few players on the whole team that actually has played consistently well.

 

I can understand why you would want to upgrade at other positions, but unless you are getting Pujols from the Cards is seems ill advised to get rid of him.

The thing is he won't be underpaid for long. It's kind of risky to give him Pujols-type money after one stellar season.

[ConstableRabbit]

 

Not to nitpick, but Sosa's 2001 season was better than his MVP season.

 

Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing, but I didn't want to say anything.

[vaball]

I think it would be a big mistake for the Cubs to offer Lee a mega money extension like some want them to. Since the all-star break he has hit .286 with a .381 OBP and .573 SLG for a .954 OPS. Still very good, but a far cry from his first half numbers.

 

I would wait and see what he does next season before pulling an Adrian Beltre or Carlos Beltran like the Mariners and Mets did based on basically one season and one post-season respectively.

 

I would only trade Lee if I could get half a team for him like the Brewers did with Sexson.

[ConstableRabbit]

I think it would be a big mistake for the Cubs to offer Lee a mega money extension like some want them to. Since the all-star break he has hit .286 with a .381 OBP and .573 SLG for a .954 OPS. Still very good, but a far cry from his first half numbers.

 

I would wait and see what he does next season before pulling an Adrian Beltre or Carlos Beltran like the Mariners and Mets did based on basically one season and one post-season respectively.

 

I would only trade Lee if I could get half a team for him like the Brewers did with Sexson.

 

Correct.

There's a reason they call them "career years". Let's see if Lee's finally figured it all out, or if this was a fluke. I too say we give him the benefit of the doubt and see what happens - even at career numbers, he's a solid player. Besides, he's carried the team this season... the least we can do is give him a shot to repeat.

[nilodnayr]

 

Lee to LA

Cubs prospect(s) to Milwaukee

LA prospects to Cincy

Dunn to Chicago

Overbay to Chicago

 

Just throwing it out there.

 

That works out as a straight up Lee for Dunn trade. While not a bad trade, I think we could do better. Id look to have LA also throw prospects to Washington to get Guillen.

 

Hairston

Overbay

ARAM

Dunn

Guillen/Nomar

Nomar/Guillen

Walker

Barrett

 

That lineup would undoubtedly lead the NL in OBP and be extremely extremely cheap.

[ManCrushOnNomar]

Don't trade Lee for anyone not named Pujols or Texiera.

[imb]

Take Tex out of Texas and you have Ass. Just kidding, but seriously, he's not great out of that park. I'd really rather just keep Lee.

[NorthsideAvenger]

The only way I would consider trading Lee is if maybe it is to Texas for Mench and Gonzalez who is gonna be a stud hitting 1B if you can give up Lee and a midlevel prospect for Mench, Gonzalez and another prospect maybe. Then they could have Texiera be the DH. But i dont see Texas doing this deal becasue they need pitching.

 

Now a Lee for Mench/Gonzalez deal is very intriguing. But I would insist on a very good prospect be thrown in the deal.

[katway]

Lee is a rare player that uses all 5 tools, plays first with a gold glove, stays healthy, and is an all around good guy with a reasonable contract. He has value because he is a rarity and trading such a rare player will only net us a bunch of less than remarkable players that we could pick up as free agents or through a non-D. Lee trade. I'd rather overpay $ to get position players at other positions than trade D. Lee.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Lee is a rare player that uses all 5 tools, plays first with a gold glove, stays healthy, and is an all around good guy with a reasonable contract. He has value because he is a rarity and trading such a rare player will only net us a bunch of less than remarkable players that we could pick up as free agents or through a non-D. Lee trade. I'd rather overpay $ to get position players at other positions than trade D. Lee.

 

The problem is the players aren't out there on the market to overpay for.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

How many more errors is our infield going to have w/o DLee? I'd pencil in just Aramis for 10+ more easy.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

How many more errors is our infield going to have w/o DLee? I'd pencil in just Aramis for 10+ more easy.

 

It depends on who you get to replace Lee. In my hypothetical where we get Overbay as well, you don't lose much defense at 1B.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

Not to nitpick, but Sosa's 2001 season was better than his MVP season.

 

Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing, but I didn't want to say anything.

 

sosa's 2001 season is probably one of the 10-15 greatest single seasons ever.

[The Voice of Reason]

 

Not to nitpick, but Sosa's 2001 season was better than his MVP season.

 

Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing, but I didn't want to say anything.

 

sosa's 2001 season is probably one of the 10-15 greatest single seasons ever.

 

 

sosa's 2001 season is probably one of the 10-15 greatest single seasons during the steroid era.

 

Looking at relative numbers and eras, it's a long way from when Babe Ruth hit more homers than all the other AL teams combined.

[Derwood]

I think Lee's agent should be fired if he doesn't push hard for a multi-year extension before spring training

[LoneStarCubFan]

Ummm... Why the hell would Cincy and Milwaukee each trade one of their best players to a Division rival? Especially when only one of them actually gets Derek Lee in return?

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Ummm... Why the hell would Cincy and Milwaukee each trade one of their best players to a Division rival? Especially when only one of them actually gets Derek Lee in return?

 

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