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getting pitchers from the braves is never a good sign, but hey, i would have taken a bag of baseballs for hollandsworth, considering murton will hopefully start the majority of the games in september now. if he platoons with macias, i'm not going to be happy.

I am of the opinion that we should release Macias right now and stock up with kids on our roster. Baker would kill himself if he cant user any veterans hahaha.

 

i wouldn't have a problem with that.

i love the fact that this takes away from dusty's toybox. getting rid of neifi and macias would probably be enough to make him resign, haha.

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Burrows, converted to pitcher last year, is now 25:

 

Low A: 20.2 IP, 3.48 ERA, 7.84 K/9, 2/1 K/BB, 1.54 WHIP

 

High A: 20 IP, 3.15 ERA, 9.9 K/9, 2.2/1 K/BB, 1.20 WHIP, .192 BAA

 

Blackford, 20 year old starter:

 

Rookie: 59.2 IP, 3.17 ERA, 4.52 K/9, 1.36/1 K/BB, 1.17 WHIP, .219 BAA

 

Blackford's k/9 absolutely blows. And he's only in the rookie league. It's not like when he moves up the ladder people will strike out more, in fact just the opposite. I don't like that number at all.

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this has to just kill dusty. he's probably begging hendry to sign armando rios so he can continue to stick one of his guys out in lf.

 

trading hollandsworth and shutting wood down...hendry may be realizing that he has to take some decisions out of dusty's hands.

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Burrows, converted to pitcher last year, is now 25:

 

Low A: 20.2 IP, 3.48 ERA, 7.84 K/9, 2/1 K/BB, 1.54 WHIP

 

High A: 20 IP, 3.15 ERA, 9.9 K/9, 2.2/1 K/BB, 1.20 WHIP, .192 BAA

 

Blackford, 20 year old starter:

 

Rookie: 59.2 IP, 3.17 ERA, 4.52 K/9, 1.36/1 K/BB, 1.17 WHIP, .219 BAA

 

Blackford's k/9 absolutely blows. And he's only in the rookie league. It's not like when he moves up the ladder people will strike out more, in fact just the opposite. I don't like that number at all.

 

I'm interested to see what Burrows's stuff is. He probably has to have some pretty good heat to be converted that late.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.
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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

 

What's Walker got to do w/ Cedeno playing? Hendry should trade Neifi if he cleared waivers..................if not DFA him and get what you can get.

 

Then Cedeno can play everyday.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

 

No thanks. Keep Walker and his cheap option, trade Neifi or bench him.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

If they want Cedeno to play everyday all they have to do is bench Neifi Perez.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

 

What's Walker got to do w/ Cedeno playing? Hendry should trade Neifi if he cleared waivers..................if not DFA him and get what you can get.

 

Then Cedeno can play everyday.

 

I don't think Nef cleared.

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getting pitchers from the braves is never a good sign, but hey, i would have taken a bag of baseballs for hollandsworth, considering murton will hopefully start the majority of the games in september now. if he platoons with macias, i'm not going to be happy.

I am of the opinion that we should release Macias right now and stock up with kids on our roster. Baker would kill himself if he cant user any veterans hahaha.

 

i wouldn't have a problem with that.

i love the fact that this takes away from dusty's toybox. getting rid of neifi and macias would probably be enough to make him resign, haha.

 

hahaha! toybox.

 

Dusty would cry if Macias or Neifi were traded. Goodbye Hollandsworthless, good riddence of your suckiness.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

 

No thanks. Keep Walker and his cheap option, trade Neifi or bench him.

Trade or release. Another player that has to go.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

If they want Cedeno to play everyday all they have to do is bench Neifi Perez.

 

Get Ced some experience @ 2b and ante up for Furcal in the offseason. It would be nice to have some range up the middle.

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getting pitchers from the braves is never a good sign, but hey, i would have taken a bag of baseballs for hollandsworth, considering murton will hopefully start the majority of the games in september now. if he platoons with macias, i'm not going to be happy.

I am of the opinion that we should release Macias right now and stock up with kids on our roster. Baker would kill himself if he cant user any veterans hahaha.

 

i wouldn't have a problem with that.

i love the fact that this takes away from dusty's toybox. getting rid of neifi and macias would probably be enough to make him resign, haha.

 

hahaha! toybox.

 

Dusty would cry if Macias or Neifi were traded. Goodbye Hollandsworth, good riddence of your suckiness.

 

Let him cry a river.......................BTW, nice PH by Macias today. 3 pitches...........3 swings.............no contact. Heck, McClain hasn't seen MLB pitching since '98 and he ripped the ball (ruled an E, I think, but still a rip).

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

 

What's Walker got to do w/ Cedeno playing? Hendry should trade Neifi if he cleared waivers..................if not DFA him and get what you can get.

 

Then Cedeno can play everyday.

 

I don't think Nef cleared.

 

For some foolish reason Hendry pulled him back.

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The numbers look decent, but I'm inclined to trust Braves' scouting more

 

I don't. The Cubs have as good as scouting as the Braves. The Cubs didn't pick up these guys because they like them, or the Braves sold them a bag of goods, the Cubs pick the guys as ORGANIZATIONAL players, that's all. Getting Murton more playing time, and taking another "veteran" away from Baker is ALL Hendry was trying to do here, not find a "gem." So stop thinking the Cubs don't have a good scouting, because they do. This was a crap for crap deal.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

If they want Cedeno to play everyday all they have to do is bench Neifi Perez.

 

Get Ced some experience @ 2b and ante up for Furcal in the offseason. It would be nice to have some range up the middle.

 

I'd rather see what he can do at SS everyday. May free up some money to make a trade for a GREAT corner outfielder.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

 

What's Walker got to do w/ Cedeno playing? Hendry should trade Neifi if he cleared waivers..................if not DFA him and get what you can get.

 

Then Cedeno can play everyday.

 

I don't think Nef cleared.

 

For some foolish reason Hendry pulled him back.

 

Seriously, DFA him................get him out of here.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

If they want Cedeno to play everyday all they have to do is bench Neifi Perez.

 

Get Ced some experience @ 2b and ante up for Furcal in the offseason. It would be nice to have some range up the middle.

 

I'd rather see what he can do at SS everyday. May free up some money to make a trade for a GREAT corner outfielder.

 

Such as?? If they can get Manny, sure bring Walker and Ced back.

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

If they want Cedeno to play everyday all they have to do is bench Neifi Perez.

 

Get Ced some experience @ 2b and ante up for Furcal in the offseason. It would be nice to have some range up the middle.

 

I'd rather see what he can do at SS everyday. May free up some money to make a trade for a GREAT corner outfielder.

 

Agreed. The 2B is the third best hitter on the team, why get rid of him and create an extra hole to fill this offseason?

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Now that Murton should be playing nearly everyday, they need to deal Walker, so they can get Cedeno in there every day. Just don't trade him to Atl or Oakland and get nothing.

If they want Cedeno to play everyday all they have to do is bench Neifi Perez.

 

Get Ced some experience @ 2b and ante up for Furcal in the offseason. It would be nice to have some range up the middle.

 

I'd rather see what he can do at SS everyday. May free up some money to make a trade for a GREAT corner outfielder.

 

Such as?? If they can get Manny, sure bring Walker and Ced back.

 

I agree. My point is, let the kid play were he's comfortable and see what he can do. You just don't know how the offseason will shape up, so don't try to get the kid to get acquainted in the MLs and switch his position at the same time. That's silly. Let him play SS.

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hahaha! toybox.

 

Dusty would cry if Macias or Neifi were traded. Goodbye Hollandsworth, good riddence of your suckiness.

 

LMFAO.Thats the best sig Ive ever seen. Im dyin here. Someone get that published in a magazine or something.

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hahaha! toybox.

 

Dusty would cry if Macias or Neifi were traded. Goodbye Hollandsworth, good riddence of your suckiness.

 

LMFAO.Thats the best sig Ive ever seen. Im dyin here. Someone get that published in a magazine or something.

 

Better yet. Mock one up, take it to the Cubs Convention and ask Dusty to sign it.

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Wow, what a thread. Hendry actually manages to get not one but two still breathing human beings in exchange for Todd Hollandsworth and much of the reaction in this thread is filled with venom.

 

I realize it has been a disappointing season, but can't we at least celebrate the small successes like this one when they come along?

 

This is a thread of about what Hendry got in return for Todd Hollandsworth and many of the posts are about Baker and Macias. Lets keep responses topic specific please. If you want to vent about Baker, thats fine, just do it in the appropriate topic.

 

Meanwhile...

 

Its not as miraculous as trading Todd Hundley for Grudzielanek and Karros, but getting anyone for Hollandsworth is worthy of a pat on the back.

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