Don't go balistic but what could the Cubs get for Prior?

[CuseCubFan69]

Is it possible that the Cubs could get a huge haul for him that would actually improve the team? Think about what the Cowboys got for Hershal Walker and is it possible that some GM would sell his soul for him? I like Prior a lot but again, if the Cubs could get 2 very good position players, a great prospect and a future 2 or 3 pitcher I'd do it.

[Jazz]

Is it possible that the Cubs could get a huge haul for him that would actually improve the team? Think about what the Cowboys got for Hershal Walker and is it possible that some GM would sell his soul for him? I like Prior a lot but again, if the Cubs could get 2 very good position players, a great prospect and a future 2 or 3 pitcher I'd do it.

 

It would not be in the best interest to trade prior at the moment because

 

1. His value could be much heigher than it is right now

2. He is cheap, and not nearing pay day yet

[CuseCubFan69]

Is it possible that the Cubs could get a huge haul for him that would actually improve the team? Think about what the Cowboys got for Hershal Walker and is it possible that some GM would sell his soul for him? I like Prior a lot but again, if the Cubs could get 2 very good position players, a great prospect and a future 2 or 3 pitcher I'd do it.

 

It would not be in the best interest to trade prior at the moment because

 

1. His value could be much heigher than it is right now

2. He is cheap, and not nearing pay day yet

 

The A's got a boat load for Mulder and Hudson and look where they are now.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm not in favor of trading Prior, but here are some deals I'd consider. (Note: I don't think other teams would do these deals either.)

 

1. Prior to the Marlins for Cabrera and Willis.

 

2. Prior to the Phillies for Aberu, Myers, and Floyd.

 

3. Prior to the Mets for Wright, Milledge, and Humber.

 

4. Prior to the Braves for Francoer, Davies, and A. Jones.

 

5. Prior to the Padres for Peavy and Greene.

 

6. Prior to the Red Sox for Manny, Papelbon, H. Ramirez, and Arroyo + cash.

[KatJ]

Is it possible that the Cubs could get a huge haul for him that would actually improve the team? Think about what the Cowboys got for Hershal Walker and is it possible that some GM would sell his soul for him? I like Prior a lot but again, if the Cubs could get 2 very good position players, a great prospect and a future 2 or 3 pitcher I'd do it.

 

Don't worry, things look pretty bleak now, so I doubt you get ripped on this proposal. I'd even consider it longer if we knew whether Wood will ever be the horse he was signed to be. Z is great, but the starting rotation IMO needs more (RELIABLE) depth.

[WindyCity]

What could the Cubs get for Prior? A curse worse than any goat could ever muster perhaps?

[CuseCubFan69]

Is it possible that the Cubs could get a huge haul for him that would actually improve the team? Think about what the Cowboys got for Hershal Walker and is it possible that some GM would sell his soul for him? I like Prior a lot but again, if the Cubs could get 2 very good position players, a great prospect and a future 2 or 3 pitcher I'd do it.

 

Don't worry, things look pretty bleak now, so I doubt you get ripped on this proposal. I'd even consider it longer if we knew whether Wood will ever be the horse he was signed to be. Z is great, but the starting rotation IMO needs more (RELIABLE) depth.

 

Kat I wanted Wood traded before when he had high trade value too. I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team. I do not believe that one player can put this team over the top and if trading Prior will help...I'm all for it.

Edited August 9, 2005 by CuseCubFan69

[KatJ]

What could the Cubs get for Prior? A curse worse than any goat could ever muster perhaps?

 

I don't believe in curses. I believe in strong fundamental baseball. Unfortunately, this team and its current manager don't.

 

To borrow from your priceless Casey Stengel quote, curses are bogus excuses for poor execution.

[KatJ]

I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team.

 

Well, I agree that it's definitely better than paying them to play somewhere else. *COUGH* Sammy *COUGH* And it's been working for Beane as long as I can (conveniently?) remember.

[CuseCubFan69]

I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team.

 

Well, I agree that it's definitely better than paying them to play somewhere else. *COUGH* Sammy *COUGH* And it's been working for Beane as long as I can (conveniently?) remember.

 

Since Prior is pretty cheap right now a low market good team can trade for him as well. When Prior gets too expensive for them they can trade him for some quality too. I just think this is the right move, IFF, the deal is the right match for the Cubs.

[RonCey]

I went to the doctor today and got my knee jerked too.

[imb]

Keep Prior and Maybe Zambrano. Everyone else is up for grabs.

[rickrolled]

Keep Prior and Maybe Zambrano. Everyone else is up for grabs.

 

I'd say the untouchables should be Prior, Z, Ramirez and probably Lee (even though he won't have this kind of season again IMO, he's still a gold glove 1Bman with a pretty solid bat).

[UBlink]

I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team.

 

In addition to Herschel Walker previously mentioned, can you provide some other examples of teams trading away their star to get better?

 

I guess the Rangers trading away ARod would qualify. Maybe the Bulls should have traded Jordan away at his height...

[CuseCubFan69]

Keep Prior and Maybe Zambrano. Everyone else is up for grabs.

 

I understand why you say that but this is the best time to deal him and to get full value. He is a wonderful pitcher and the beauty part is that he is pitching well right now so his value is high and will be quite desirable to many GM's. Imagine if there is a bidding war for him and what the haul could be? Again like Walker, he was the best player on that team and the Cowboys traded him because it made the whole team better and I feel you have to give up a stud to really get the parts you need to make yourself a championship caliber team.

 

I don't think Lee or ARam could get enough to do that and since quality starting pitching is the thing most GM's want, why not get their best pitching prospect, 2 very good everyday postion players and a 2 or 3 pitcher?

[CuseCubFan69]

I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team.

 

In addition to Herschel Walker previously mentioned, can you provide some other examples of teams trading away their star to get better?

 

I guess the Rangers trading away ARod would qualify. Maybe the Bulls should have traded Jordan away at his height...

 

The Pat's trading Bledsoe

A Phils and Indians trade awhile back with Von Hayes

 

I also do not consider Jordan to be like Prior. One basketball player can really make a difference while one baseball player won't make an impact like that....except for Bonds and Prior is no Bonds.

[CuseCubFan69]

Keep Prior and Maybe Zambrano. Everyone else is up for grabs.

 

I'd say the untouchables should be Prior, Z, Ramirez and probably Lee (even though he won't have this kind of season again IMO, he's still a gold glove 1Bman with a pretty solid bat).

 

That's where I differ. I don't think there should ever be an untouchable on a baseball team. I think this is why Beane is successful, he doesn't fall in love with a player and moves him when it helps the team.

[UBlink]

I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team.

 

In addition to Herschel Walker previously mentioned, can you provide some other examples of teams trading away their star to get better?

 

I guess the Rangers trading away ARod would qualify. Maybe the Bulls should have traded Jordan away at his height...

 

The Pat's trading Bledsoe

A Phils and Indians trade awhile back with Von Hayes

 

I also do not consider Jordan to be like Prior. One basketball player can really make a difference while one baseball player won't make an impact like that....except for Bonds and Prior is no Bonds.

 

Bledsoe doesn't count because a football team only needs one starting quarterback and the Pat's had 2.

[CuseCubFan69]

I just think the best thing to do is to trade a star to make your team better. It is not a popular thing to do but IMO it's the right way to improve the team.

 

In addition to Herschel Walker previously mentioned, can you provide some other examples of teams trading away their star to get better?

 

I guess the Rangers trading away ARod would qualify. Maybe the Bulls should have traded Jordan away at his height...

 

The Pat's trading Bledsoe

A Phils and Indians trade awhile back with Von Hayes

 

I also do not consider Jordan to be like Prior. One basketball player can really make a difference while one baseball player won't make an impact like that....except for Bonds and Prior is no Bonds.

 

Bledsoe doesn't count because a football team only needs one starting quarterback and the Pat's had 2.

 

But, they gambled that Brady would be good and not a one year wonder. They had no guarentee that he would turn out like that.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I reckon that it would be nearly impossible to improve the team by trading Prior. There's just not a deal out there that would get you what you want in return that a GM wouldn't laugh you off the phone.

[CubfaninCA]

1) I don't think Prior's trade value is sky high anymore. He's injury prone and not as dominant anymore.

 

2) With Wood unreliable and probably gone after 06, the Cubs have to hang onto Prior.

 

3) With the minors not producing a whole lot, and Angel Guzman continually injured, the Cubs need to hang onto Prior.

Edited August 9, 2005 by CubfaninCA

[CuseCubFan69]

I reckon that it would be nearly impossible to improve the team by trading Prior. There's just not a deal out there that would get you what you want in return that a GM wouldn't laugh you off the phone.

 

I'm confused. Prior is so good you can't trade him but other GM's would laugh at you for wanting quality in return?

[CuseCubFan69]

1) I don't think Prior's trade value is sky high anymore. He's injury prone and not as dominant anymore.

 

2) With Wood unreliable and probably gone after 06, the Cubs have to hang onto Prior.

 

3) With the minors not producing a whole, and Angel Guzman continually injured, the Cubs need to hang onto Prior.

 

I remember having this same debate about Wood years ago.

[CubfaninCA]

1) I don't think Prior's trade value is sky high anymore. He's injury prone and not as dominant anymore.

 

2) With Wood unreliable and probably gone after 06, the Cubs have to hang onto Prior.

 

3) With the minors not producing a whole, and Angel Guzman continually injured, the Cubs need to hang onto Prior.

 

I remember having this same debate about Wood years ago.

 

Who you going to have as your #2 pitcher?? Maddux? Hill? Williams?? If there were some good pitchers available in free agency, I'd be more open to the idea, but Burnett looks like the best of the lot. I don't want to rely on another injury prone pitcher.

[XZero771679666304]

I reckon that it would be nearly impossible to improve the team by trading Prior. There's just not a deal out there that would get you what you want in return that a GM wouldn't laugh you off the phone.

 

I'm confused. Prior is so good you can't trade him but other GM's would laugh at you for wanting quality in return?

 

Prior isn't good enough yet to return what you feel he will be worth. The A's dealt Hudson and Mulder because they were at the end of their cost effectiveness. Waiting until Mark nears his free agency to entertain trade ideas is the prudent thing to do, both to maximize his value, and minimize the loss to the tam.