Lawton to Cubs for Gerut

[mhuber92211]

How many games has Lawton played in CF in his career?

[dalgreen]

ah, he of the 34 major league at bats...

 

methinks Dusty was going to play Gerut or Holly over him anyway except against lefties. I know he started against a righty recently... but come on, it's Dusty Baker we're talking about.

 

Murton's OBP is not going to stay that high. who knows how far down it will go. Lawton will probably only regress to .350 worst case.

 

I would assume that Murton's OBP won't stay that high...sure. But, I've wanted to see a young Cub come up from the minors and step up as Murton did and now that he has the Cubs replace him. I just hope that he still keeps getting AB's but if Lawton is batting leadoff I doubt Baker will sit him out against all lefties..it's not the way Dusty has managed.

 

Honestly, what's the rush? The Cubs will likely need two outfielders next season, and Murton should be given every chance in spring training. Even if he's sent down this season, he'll be back in September. I don't have a problem seeing Murton replaced with Lawton, I do have a big problem with Murton being sent down for a guy like Hollandsworth.

 

I like the deal. It cracks me up how some people are disappointed that a "blockbuster" wasn't made, but would've been upset had Hill, Pie, Dope, or Murton been involved. That's the only way a blockbuster was going to be made. I'm glad Hendry has hung onto a lot of the prospects.

[Larry Horse]

still waiting for the Dusty for Tracy trade to be announced............

[Balsa]

Neither mlb.com or espn.com have splits from before 2002. I was looking for that too.

[UK1679666180]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/5511/splits?year=career&type=Batting

[ThePenguin11]

How many games has Lawton played in CF in his career?

 

I believe someone said 85 games at CF.

[sherwood921]

After Mitre's performance today, I'm betting he's returned to Iowa.

 

Im hoping Remmy gets DFA'd and Mitre and Cedeno get sent down.

 

Why didn't we just save ourselves the hassle of DFA'ing him and send him to the Yankees before the deadline. If we DFA him, he'll end up in NY, no doubt.

[sonicdethmonkey0]

still waiting for the Dusty for Tracy trade to be announced............

 

we'd have to throw in lee and ramirez for that trade to go through

[CuseCubFan69]

ah, he of the 34 major league at bats...

 

methinks Dusty was going to play Gerut or Holly over him anyway except against lefties. I know he started against a righty recently... but come on, it's Dusty Baker we're talking about.

 

Murton's OBP is not going to stay that high. who knows how far down it will go. Lawton will probably only regress to .350 worst case.

 

I would assume that Murton's OBP won't stay that high...sure. But, I've wanted to see a young Cub come up from the minors and step up as Murton did and now that he has the Cubs replace him. I just hope that he still keeps getting AB's but if Lawton is batting leadoff I doubt Baker will sit him out against all lefties..it's not the way Dusty has managed.

 

Honestly, what's the rush? The Cubs will likely need two outfielders next season, and Murton should be given every chance in spring training. Even if he's sent down this season, he'll be back in September. I don't have a problem seeing Murton replaced with Lawton, I do have a big problem with Murton being sent down for a guy like Hollandsworth.

 

I like the deal. It cracks me up how some people are disappointed that a "blockbuster" wasn't made, but would've been upset had Hill, Pie, Dope, or Murton been involved. That's the only way a blockbuster was going to be made. I'm glad Hendry has hung onto a lot of the prospects.

 

I didn't need a blockbuster myself and I agree if Murton gets sent down and Holla is still up that the Cubs will be making a mistake.

[ThePenguin11]

After seeing Shawn Green play CF, it makes me think Lawton or Burnitz could pull it off. Burnitz looked very comfortable out there in his only start and the prospect of his arm out there sounds enticing.

 

Murton-Burnitz-Lawton?

[Omar]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

[CuseCubFan69]

After seeing Shawn Green play CF, it makes me think Lawton or Burnitz could pull it off. Burnitz looked very comfortable out there in his only start and the prospect of his arm out there sounds enticing.

 

Murton-Burnitz-Lawton?

 

I'll take it.

[CubfaninCA]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Yep, I think that will be the outfield. Some people really undervalue defense. Cub pitching is not that good. Murton & Hairston may be the odd men out.

[Geech]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/5511/splits?year=career&type=Batting

 

Good find. Thanks, UK, I feel better about the trade.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Yep, I think that will be the outfield. Some people really undervalue defense. Cub pitching is not that good. Murton & Hairston may be the odd men out.

 

If that's the case, then it means Murton goes down for Patterson, which I don't like. Of course, they could always get rid of the redundant reliever, and keep Hairston as a utility guy. But I doubt we see them do that this late in the season.

[ThePenguin11]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

He's got a lot to work on before he see's the light of day at Wrigley. Since he's batting below the Mendoza line, I don't see a return until the September call-ups.

[Backtobanks]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Don't bet on that the way he is hitting down there. He'd better get it together or his brother will be playing in the majors before he gets back.

[Jon]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Yep, I think that will be the outfield. Some people really undervalue defense. Cub pitching is not that good. Murton & Hairston may be the odd men out.

 

If that's the case, then it means Murton goes down for Patterson, which I don't like. Of course, they could always get rid of the redundant reliever, and keep Hairston as a utility guy. But I doubt we see them do that this late in the season.

I don't see the Cubs bringing Patterson back up before September. They know it'll take him some time and don't seem to be in much of a rush.

[AAApittsburgh]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

He's got a lot to work on before he see's the light of day at Wrigley. Since he's batting below the Mendoza line, I don't see a return until the September call-ups.

Hairston isn't doing much better right now. OBP is .304 in July. I'd bring Corey up for his D, and stick him in the 8 hole.

[CubfaninCA]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Yep, I think that will be the outfield. Some people really undervalue defense. Cub pitching is not that good. Murton & Hairston may be the odd men out.

 

If that's the case, then it means Murton goes down for Patterson, which I don't like. Of course, they could always get rid of the redundant reliever, and keep Hairston as a utility guy. But I doubt we see them do that this late in the season.

 

Is Macias gone??

 

You think Hairston can clear waivers and be traded??

[dalgreen]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Yep, I think that will be the outfield. Some people really undervalue defense. Cub pitching is not that good. Murton & Hairston may be the odd men out.

 

If that's the case, then it means Murton goes down for Patterson, which I don't like. Of course, they could always get rid of the redundant reliever, and keep Hairston as a utility guy. But I doubt we see them do that this late in the season.

I don't see the Cubs bringing Patterson back up before September. They know it'll take him some time and don't seem to be in much of a rush.

 

What would bringing up Patterson in September do? I don't think Patterson sitting the bench would be productive for him. I'd hate for him to be brought up only as a late-inning defensive replacement. From what I've read and heard, I'm not sure there's a big difference between Patterson now and Patterson of April-June.

[katway]

Outfield of Murton- Lawton - Burnitz. It gives us the best offensive production with the lowest downside defensive risk. Lawton has the speed to play center, Burnitz does not.

 

As for Burny in center, it is clear that Burny's speed would hurt in center. In the one game in center he played this year, he simply couldn't get to a shallow fly ball that would have been reach by any centerfielder with speed. Burny is a pro and can play the position correctly, but his range is too limited. Lawton will play center because Lawton has the range and we can't have both him and Hairston in the lineup.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

Yep, I think that will be the outfield. Some people really undervalue defense. Cub pitching is not that good. Murton & Hairston may be the odd men out.

 

If that's the case, then it means Murton goes down for Patterson, which I don't like. Of course, they could always get rid of the redundant reliever, and keep Hairston as a utility guy. But I doubt we see them do that this late in the season.

I don't see the Cubs bringing Patterson back up before September. They know it'll take him some time and don't seem to be in much of a rush.

 

What would bringing up Patterson in September do? I don't think Patterson sitting the bench would be productive for him. I'd hate for him to be brought up only as a late-inning defensive replacement. From what I've read and heard, I'm not sure there's a big difference between Patterson now and Patterson of April-June.

 

What's the alternative? By September the Minor League season is over, and Iowa isn't going to the playoffs.

[CubfaninCA]

Guys, you're forgetting the fact that we still have Corey Patterson. Sure, he is struggling in Iowa, but he wont be there forever. Lawton-Patterson-Burnitz IMO..

 

He's got a lot to work on before he see's the light of day at Wrigley. Since he's batting below the Mendoza line, I don't see a return until the September call-ups.

 

Bury him in the 8 spot. The Cubs did nothing to address their average pitching. Perhaps improving the defense is their only move. The Cubs aren't going to walk their way to the wildcard. Sneak into the playoffs and the Cubs pitching becomes a strength, as rotations are shortened.

[AAApittsburgh]

Outfield of Murton- Lawton - Burnitz. It gives us the best offensive production with the lowest downside defensive risk. Lawton has the speed to play center, Burnitz does not.

 

As for Burny in center, it is clear that Burny's speed would hurt in center. In the one game in center he played this year, he simply couldn't get to a shallow fly ball that would have been reach by any centerfielder with speed. Burny is a pro and can play the position correctly, but his range is too limited. Lawton will play center because Lawton has the range and we can't have both him and Hairston in the lineup.

I don't think Lawton has any more range than Burnitz.