Lawton to Cubs for Gerut

[DougDascenzo]

 

Lawton

Walker

Lee

Rammy

Burntiz(flip flopped against tough righties as has been ocurring)

Nomar

Hairston

Barrett

 

Lawton

Hairston

Lee

Rammy

Burntiz(flip flopped against tough righties as has been ocurring)

Nomar

Walker

Barrett

 

I think the first is more likely, maybe even with barrett and hairston switched.

 

You mean against ALL righties right??? i haven't been able to see many games lately, has Ramirez been batting cleanup more often?? seems every game i know of except when a left is pitching agianst us Ramirez bats 5th behind Burnitz.

 

I like Lawton and Walker 1-2 also, but I assume Dusty will want to spread out the left handers as he seems infatuated with the Righty Lefty Righty thing...But maybe that will all change...

Like i said though, hopefully Nomar heats it up and can claim the two spot behind Lawton.

[CuseCubFan69]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

On another note, anyone else notice that the platoon of Matt Murton and Matt Lawton makes for an interesting combination of similar names. Maybe we could call them Matt Murlawton or Matt Lawmurton. Okay, I think it might be time for a nap. I've clearly lost my mind. :oops:

 

I thought of the same thing.

[XZero771679666304]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Lawton hasn't played CF in 5 years, and he's not that good in RF. And you wouldn't see a Murton/Lawton?Burnitz OF. It would be Holla/Lawton/Burnitz, with Murton facing LHP.

 

I'd much rather have Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz with Murton facing LHP.

[Sabermetrician]

So many of us have been preaching OBP all along yet it seemed like Hendry and Dusty always chose to ignore it, but they got a good one in Lawton. He's 7th in the NL in OBP, capable of playing any outfield position, and really does what you want a leadoff hitter to do. He shows a lot of patience at the plate, works the count, doesn't strike out too much, and has a good SB-CS ratio (not particularly this year, though by my count he's stolen at least 8 straight to get up to 16/9, when I checked earlier this season he was 8/9). I'm really excited about this pickup.

 

Lawton is more than likely a half year rental so it's a good thing we only had to give up Gerut for him. $7.75 million this year and then a free agent after this season. Even if you're asking me if I'd rather have Jody Gerut for a couple of years or Matt Lawton for half a season to help make a playoff run, I'm taking Lawton without looking back. How Hendry continues to make such good deals in a weak market amazes me. I mean, if I'm a GM, I wouldn't have even made the offer, thinking it'd be so weak, Pittsburgh would want so much more, and Lawton talks would fall apart completely. I have to wonder how this type of trade came to be when I really think we'd have given at least a nice prospect to Pittsburgh in return.

[Balsa]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Uh oh. From ESPN:

 

Lawton covered more ground last year following knee surgery, but remained a defensive liability in left and right field. He covered the gap decently, but any ball hit over his head or toward the line was an adventure. He underwent a serious operation on his right shoulder after the 2002 season and runners have been taking liberties against him ever since. Lawton is a good baserunner and the weight he lost last winter helped him steal 23 bases and score a career-high 109 runs.

[TXCubsFan]

ESPN confirmed it was for Gerut. I posted earlier in another thread that the two players were almost the same guy - just that Gerut is younger and Lawton draws more walks. Their average seasons are nearly identical aside from Lawton's better patience and a little better SB numbers.

 

I like the move, though it means Murton sits behind Holla and Lawton now.

 

The way Holla has been swinging a bat, he'll be sitting behind Jerome Walton.

[CuseCubFan69]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Lawton hasn't played CF in 5 years, and he's not that good in RF. And you wouldn't see a Murton/Lawton?Burnitz OF. It would be Holla/Lawton/Burnitz, with Murton facing LHP.

 

I'd much rather have Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz with Murton facing LHP.

 

Lawton is really worse in the OF than Hairston? I see what you are saying but I'd rather have Hairston backup 2B,3B and the OF and have a real bat like Murton's out there all the time.

[DougDascenzo]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Not sure who you mean it would be ironic that he's replacing... The guy with the highest OBP, isn't that Lee??? Lawton is probably not going to replace Lee.

 

Hairston's OBP is higher than Holly Neifi and narrowly Barrets...everyone else on the team is equal or better...

 

Despite that i still would rather have him in left, Holly is just a black hole in the lineup. The thing the Cubs need most, OBP, would be improved most by having Lawton in left field...True Hairston is not great in center, but the offense has been downright brutal and leaving Holly out there is not the answer.

[BigbadB]

So many of us have been preaching OBP all along yet it seemed like Hendry and Dusty always chose to ignore it, but they got a good one in Lawton. He's 7th in the NL in OBP, capable of playing any outfield position, and really does what you want a leadoff hitter to do. He shows a lot of patience at the plate, works the count, doesn't strike out too much, and has a good SB-CS ratio (not particularly this year, though by my count he's stolen at least 8 straight to get up to 16/9, when I checked earlier this season he was 8/9). I'm really excited about this pickup.

 

Lawton is more than likely a half year rental so it's a good thing we only had to give up Gerut for him. $7.75 million this year and then a free agent after this season. Even if you're asking me if I'd rather have Jody Gerut for a couple of years or Matt Lawton for half a season to help make a playoff run, I'm taking Lawton without looking back. How Hendry continues to make such good deals in a weak market amazes me. I mean, if I'm a GM, I wouldn't have even made the offer, thinking it'd be so weak, Pittsburgh would want so much more, and Lawton talks would fall apart completely. I have to wonder how this type of trade came to be when I really think we'd have given at least a nice prospect to Pittsburgh in return.

 

Littlefield was not coming home from the deadline with Lawton still on his roster. Hendry swooped in and gave up a young talented outfielder on the mend and more than likely picked up a substantial portion of the remainder of Lawton's contract.

 

It's another good move by Hendry.

[XZero771679666304]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Lawton hasn't played CF in 5 years, and he's not that good in RF. And you wouldn't see a Murton/Lawton?Burnitz OF. It would be Holla/Lawton/Burnitz, with Murton facing LHP.

 

I'd much rather have Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz with Murton facing LHP.

 

Lawton is really worse in the OF than Hairston? I see what you are saying but I'd rather have Hairston backup 2B,3B and the OF and have a real bat like Murton's out there all the time.

 

As long as Dusty's the manager and he has Holla on the team, Murton won't be out there all the time.

[CuseCubFan69]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Uh oh. From ESPN:

 

Lawton covered more ground last year following knee surgery, but remained a defensive liability in left and right field. He covered the gap decently, but any ball hit over his head or toward the line was an adventure. He underwent a serious operation on his right shoulder after the 2002 season and runners have been taking liberties against him ever since. Lawton is a good baserunner and the weight he lost last winter helped him steal 23 bases and score a career-high 109 runs.

 

Yikes....as X pointed out too maybe my idea won't work! I want Murtons bat in the lineup and once CPatt comes back M&M won't see the light of day.

[Geech]

As long as Dusty's the manager and he has Holla on the team, Murton won't be out there all the time.

 

But it seems like Murton has been winning more playing time lately.

[CuseCubFan69]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

Lawton hasn't played CF in 5 years, and he's not that good in RF. And you wouldn't see a Murton/Lawton?Burnitz OF. It would be Holla/Lawton/Burnitz, with Murton facing LHP.

 

I'd much rather have Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz with Murton facing LHP.

 

Lawton is really worse in the OF than Hairston? I see what you are saying but I'd rather have Hairston backup 2B,3B and the OF and have a real bat like Murton's out there all the time.

 

As long as Dusty's the manager and he has Holla on the team, Murton won't be out there all the time.

 

I suppose I was hoping that Hendry moved Baker to the Dodgers before the deadline too. =P~

[Roast]

YUCK.

 

I get home from work, and our big deadline aquisition is............!!!!

 

Matt Lawton?

 

Nasty. He is always good the first half, but he sucks muchos alotos the last half.

 

 

So, Now, my question is what are we doing with todd hollandsworth? Are we having a Holla/Murton/Lawton platoon?? Or is holla finally going to be strictly a bench guy?

[CuseCubFan69]

As long as Dusty's the manager and he has Holla on the team, Murton won't be out there all the time.

 

But it seems like Murton has been winning more playing time lately.

 

Who started in LF today?

[bmkhawk]

Relative to what moves were actually made this year, I can't see how you can give it a "yuck" label.

 

It was clearly a sellers' market and Hendry did what he could to make this team better.

[DougDascenzo]

As long as Dusty's the manager and he has Holla on the team, Murton won't be out there all the time.

 

But it seems like Murton has been winning more playing time lately.

 

Who started in LF today?

 

Gerut

 

Holly came in about the 7th or 8th i think

[Geech]

Who started in LF today?

 

Gerut, but that isn't really the point.

[CuseCubFan69]

YUCK.

 

I get home from work, and our big deadline aquisition is............!!!!

 

Matt Lawton?

 

Nasty. He is always good the first half, but he sucks muchos alotos the last half.

 

 

So, Now, my question is what are we doing with todd hollandsworth? Are we having a Holla/Murton/Lawton platoon?? Or is holla finally going to be strictly a bench guy?

 

Holla is going to be playing the role he should have always been playing....pinch hitter and very limited starts...occasional starts at 1st too, one a month.

[Backtobanks]

I think it's a little ironic that Hendry is going to replace the guy with the highest OBP with Lawton. I'm hoping that Lawton can play CF and he can't be worse there than Hairston. I would rather have an OF of Murton/Lawton/Burnitz than Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz.

 

While it's not the blockbuster trade everyone was hoping for, it does add to the depth and versatility of the team. As of right now, you have 3 options for LF, 3 for CF, 3 for RF, 3 for 2B, 2 for leadoff, etc. Unfortunately, instead of Hairston replacing Macias as supersub, I'm sure Cedeno will go down to AAA. Hopefully, the Cubs will cut Remlinger when Williamson and Wood return. Who knows, maybe they can get a little something (very little) for him when he goes on waivers.

[Geech]

Nasty. He is always good the first half, but he sucks muchos alotos the last half.

 

That's definitely my concern, too. I'm still not certain I like this trade.

[NCCubFan]

I suppose I was hoping that Hendry moved Baker to the Dodgers before the deadline too. =P~

I doubt Dusty gets claimed on waivers, so they could still do that as a post-deadline deal. :D

[Roast]

Relative to what moves were actually made this year, I can't see how you can give it a "yuck" label.

 

It was clearly a sellers' market and Hendry did what he could to make this team better.

I gave it a yuck label because of who we got. Lawton always does well in the first half, then DIES DIES DIES in teh second. Oh well. I guess this isnt too bad of a situation. I'm just a little dissapointed we couldnt nab somebody else.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Relative to what moves were actually made this year, I can't see how you can give it a "yuck" label.

 

It was clearly a sellers' market and Hendry did what he could to make this team better.

I gave it a yuck label because of who we got. Lawton always does well in the first half, then DIES DIES DIES in teh second. Oh well. I guess this isnt too bad of a situation. I'm just a little dissapointed we couldnt nab somebody else.

 

If Lawton is platooned with Murton(Lawton is very bad against LH), then there's less chance of him wearing down, if that's the reason for his poor second half performances.