7/24 Cubs (Prior) vs Cardinals (Suppan) 7:05pm ESPN

[Laura]

Mark Prior (7-3, 3.15)

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/407578.jpg

 

vs.

 

Jeff Suppan (9-7, 4.22)

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/122987.jpg

 

 

Chicubs takes over gamethread starting duties for Monday's game.

 

GO CUBS!

[sweetpeteman]

lets beat the Cards... again... and this time: Let Cedeno play!!!!!!

 

 

Also, I like our chances, our ace vs. their #4.

[otis89]

Win again, you pathetic bunch of losers.

[Roast]

Win you bunch of losers.

[otis89]

Win you bunch of losers.

 

Nice job of just shortening what I said. :wink: :P

[Roast]

Win you bunch of losers.

 

Nice job of just shortening what I said. :wink: :P

 

I fit all of your awesomeness into one condensed sentance.

[Flames24Rulz]

like i said about today's game, the Cubs can't buy a win. But they stole one. I like this stealing thing. Let's do it again.

[otis89]

Win you bunch of losers.

 

Nice job of just shortening what I said. :wink: :P

 

I fit all of your awesomeness into one condensed sentance.

 

I have been complimented by Roast! I am shocked! I don't know what to say! This is such an honor! \:D/ :P

[Omar]

http://ee.1asphost.com/GOATpics/Goat-CUBS%20SUCK.jpg

 

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/slideshow/cards2004.nsf/show/5C8414950777A14486256F36000BCCD9/$FILE/photo7.jpg

 

No world series in 97 years. ridiculous. I know Philly is the team with the worst record ever, but didnt they win a championship in 1980.. DIDNT THEY?!

 

LOSERS.

[Omar]

Noteworthy Match-ups (Chicago Cubs) Vs. Jeff Suppan (RHP, 9-7 with 4.22 ERA)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1241/cubvjeff4ov.jpg

 

Noteworthy Match-ups (St. Louis Cardinals) Vs. Mark Prior (RHP, 7-3 with 3.15 ERA)

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9206/cardvprior0mq.jpg

 

Prediction Based On Match-ups: Win

PBOM Record: 3-3

[sethuel1]

Sweet! Joe Morgan!

[Jon]

Sweet! Joe Morgan!

And I'm sure he'll get a great reception when he returns to Wrigley in 3 weeks.

[marc_foust]

I completely agree with those of you that say we stole one yesterday. If Neifi doesnt make that play at the end I think that we lose. But all that matters is the "W". As confident as I could be with the pitching matchup, we suck against average pitchers. The cubs do not do a very good job of beating up on lesser pitchers. Lets hope we can pull this one out. Ah, who am I kidding we suck too much to win this one :wink: :wink:

[Omar]

Sweet! Joe Morgan!

And I'm sure he'll get a great reception when he returns to Wrigley in 3 weeks.

 

Any chance of Steve Stone???

 

I have yet to hear him doing a Cubs game due to blackout restrictions..

[reggiemiller rules]

Lee kills Suppan, and Pujols kills Prior. So it should be another good game.

[Omar]

Lee kills Suppan, and Pujols kills Prior. So it should be another good game.

 

And Walker should have a better game, too.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Worthless stats of the day for Sunday.....

 

CUBS are 10-5 on Sundays

CUBS are 2-2 vs. St. Louis

CUBS are 26-25 in the day time.

CUBS are 25-26 on the road.

CUBS are 17-14 in games that end a series

CUBS are 4-3 in games ending a road trip

CUBS are 18-8 when Derrek Lee hits at least 1 HR.... 31-40 when he doesn't

CUBS are 20-14 when their pitchers' get at least 1 hit.... 29-34 when they don't

CUBS are 29-19 when they've won the previous game.... 19-29 after a loss

CUBS are 6-9 when attendance is greater than 42,000

CUBS are 12-5 when the temperature is 85 degree or above

CUBS are 39-14 when they get a quality start,... 10-34 when they don't

CUBS are 14-13 in one run games, 8-5 in two run games.

CUBS are 31-14 when they score first,.... 18-34 when they don't

CUBS are 15-5 when they score in the first inning,... 34-43 when they don't

 

CUBS are 10-4 when Prior starts

Prior is 10 of 14 in quality starts

Prior's ERA pitching to Barrett is 3.77.... pitching to Blanco it's 2.81

CUBS score 4.64 R/G overall.... 4.83 R/G when Prior pitches

CUBS hit 1.33 HR/G overall.... 1.57 HR/G when Prior pitches

 

CUBS' offensive support of Prior.....

 

04/04 - 07/22      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
CUBS w/Prior      466   69  127   30    2   22  227   65   43   65  0.273  0.342  0.487  0.829
CUBS overall     3368  450  926  202   15  129 1545  432  251  563  0.275  0.329  0.459  0.788

 

Prior's last 5 starts.....

 

Prior             IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR   PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
07/19 vs. Cincy  6.7    7    3    3    2    8    0  108  2.70 10.80  0.00  1.35  4.05
07/14 vs. Pitts  8.0    2    1    0    3   10    0  115  3.38 11.25  0.00  0.63  0.00
07/07 vs. Atla   4.7    7    6    6    4    5    1  102  7.71  9.64  1.93  2.36 11.57
07/01 vs. Wash   5.0    6    3    3    0    7    1   82  0.00 12.60  1.80  1.20  5.40
06/26 vs. CWS    6.0    1    0    0    0    3    0   71  0.00  4.50  0.00  0.17  0.00

5 game totals   30.3   23   13   12    9   33    2  478  2.67  9.79  0.59  1.05  3.56

 

Prior's splits.....

 

Prior             IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR   PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Home            52.3   32   13   11   15   60    6  791  2.58 10.32  1.03  0.90  1.89
Road            36.3   33   21   20   12   35    5  587  2.97  8.67  1.24  1.24  4.95

Day             62.0   41   25   23   20   65    8  965  2.90  9.44  1.16  0.98  3.34
Nite            26.7   24    9    8    7   30    3  413  2.36 10.13  1.01  1.16  2.70

season totals   88.7   65   34   31   27   95   11 1378  2.74  9.64  1.12  1.04  3.15

 

CUBS' season series with St. Louis.....

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter
15  Wed 04/20  @ St. Louis     N   3- 1  Zambrano      
16  Thu 04/21  @ St. Louis         0- 4  Dempster      
96  Fri 07/22  @ St. Louis     N   1- 2  Zambrano      
97  Sat 07/23  @ St. Louis         6- 5  Williams      
98  Sun 07/24  @ St. Louis     N    -    Prior        
115  Thu 08/11    St. Louis          -    Maddux        
116  Fri 08/12    St. Louis          -    Zambrano      
117  Sat 08/13    St. Louis          -    Williams      
118  Sun 08/14    St. Louis     N    -    Prior        
137  Mon 09/05  @ St. Louis          -    Williams      
138  Tue 09/06  @ St. Louis     N    -    Prior        
139  Wed 09/07  @ St. Louis     N    -    Wood        
147  Thu 09/15    St. Louis     N    -    Williams      
148  Fri 09/16    St. Louis          -    Prior        
149  Sat 09/17    St. Louis          -    Wood        
150  Sun 09/18    St. Louis          -    Maddux        

 

CUBS' hitters vs. St. Louis.....

 

CUBS           AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Lee            15    3    7    3    0    1   13    3    3    1  0.467  0.556  0.867  1.422
Ramirez        16    2    5    1    0    1    9    2    2    1  0.313  0.389  0.563  0.951
Hollandsworth  16    1    4    2    0    0    6    0    2    1  0.250  0.333  0.375  0.708
Blanco          3    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0  0.333  0.333  0.333  0.667
Burnitz        16    1    3    0    0    1    6    2    2    3  0.188  0.278  0.375  0.653
Hairston       16    1    5    0    0    0    5    0    0    4  0.313  0.313  0.313  0.625
Barrett        12    1    3    0    0    0    3    1    2    2  0.250  0.357  0.250  0.607
Perez          18    0    3    0    0    0    3    1    0    2  0.167  0.167  0.167  0.333
Patterson       8    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    1  0.125  0.125  0.125  0.250
Walker          9    1    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    3  0.111  0.111  0.111  0.222
Garciaparra     2    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Murton          2    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    2  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Gerut           2    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Fontenot        1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000

vs. St. L.    146   10   36    7    1    3   54   10   11   24  0.247  0.299  0.370  0.669

overall      3368  450  926  201   15  127 1538  432  251  562  0.275  0.329  0.457  0.785

 

CUBS' pitchers ws. St. Louis.....

 

CUBS         IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Novoa       1.3    1    0    0    1    0    0    19  6.75  0.00  0.00  1.50  0.00
Rusch       1.0    1    0    0    0    0    0    11  0.00  0.00  0.00  1.00  0.00
Hawkins     0.3    0    0    0    0    0    0     2  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Ohman       0.3    0    0    0    0    0    0     6  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Remlinger   0.0    1    1    1    0    0    1     4  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Zambrano   17.7    8    2    2    1   15    2   236  0.51  7.64  1.02  0.51  1.02
Dempster    7.0    5    1    1    4    4    0   109  5.14  5.14  0.00  1.29  1.29
Wuertz      1.7    0    1    1    0    2    0    25  0.00 10.80  0.00  0.00  5.40
Fox         0.7    2    2    2    0    1    1    15  0.00 13.50 13.50  3.00 27.00
Mitre       0.3    2    1    1    0    0    0    10  0.00  0.00  0.00  6.00 27.00

vs. St. L. 36.3   27   12   11    9   25    4   542  2.23  6.19  0.99  0.99  2.72

overall   861.7  806  433  410  347  746  117 14120  3.62  7.79  1.22  1.34  4.28

 

Go CUBS !!

[CubsWin]

Fred, that is simply outstanding.

[Brian]

Neifi and/or Hollandsworth need a day (or week (or month)) off, I hope we see Cedeno or Murton.

 

I'd also like to see a proper line-up configuration, you know with the proper clean-up guy batting 4th regardless of what hand the pitcher uses.

[CubsWin]

Neifi and/or Hollandsworth need a day (or week (or month)) off, I hope we see Cedeno or Murton.

 

I'd also like to see a proper line-up configuration, you know with the proper clean-up guy batting 4th regardless of what hand the pitcher uses.

Agreed. I really would like to see Murton get in there, but Suppan's ERA against left-handed batting this year is 5.75 while his ERA against righties is 2.93. Knowing that, would you still start Murton? Neifi just plain sucks at getting on base. And he sucks even more when he is batting left-handed, so even though Suppan is so much more successful against righties than he is against lefties, maybe we can find a justification for playing Cedeno.

[Brian]

Didn't know about that extreme of a split, I don't know.

 

I'm definately sticking with my want for ARAM to hit 4th (seems so dumb to have to point that out)

 

Aram - vs. Left: .360 vs. Right: .299

Burny - vs. Left: .253 vs. Right: .292

 

Conclusion Aramis is freaking on fire and should be batting clean-up.

 

I'm sure Fred could make a pretty chart, but he is hitting .429 with 7HR and 14RBI over his last 10 games. With only 3 strikeouts!

[CubsWin]

I'm definately sticking with my want for ARAM to hit 4th...he is hitting .429 with 7HR and 14RBI over his last 10 games. With only 3 strikeouts!

Can't argue with those numbers. How about:

 

Hairston, Jr.

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Barrett

Hollandsworth

Cedeno?

 

The only problem with that is that Blanco is likely to catch Prior, so...

 

Hairston, Jr.

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Cedeno

Hollandsworth

Blanco?

 

I don't know. I'm sure glad I'm not managing the Cubs. I'd probably be more hated that Baker, if thats possible. :wink:

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fred, that is simply outstanding.

 

Thank you kindly.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Didn't know about that extreme of a split, I don't know.

 

I'm definately sticking with my want for ARAM to hit 4th (seems so dumb to have to point that out)

 

Aram - vs. Left: .360 vs. Right: .299

Burny - vs. Left: .253 vs. Right: .292

 

Conclusion Aramis is freaking on fire and should be batting clean-up.

 

I'm sure Fred could make a pretty chart, but he is hitting .429 with 7HR and 14RBI over his last 10 games. With only 3 strikeouts!

 

Posted this in another thread yesterday, but I'll repeat it here.

 

I wouldn't try to suggest for a minute that Burnitz is a better hitter than Ramirez, because he's not. But look at these splits, and there's 2 things that jump out at me. 1.) Burnitz is a very very patient hitter when he's inserted in between Lee and Ramirez. I love his walk rate of 0.153 and his OBP of 0.378. 2.) Ramirez is driving in runs at the same rate, whether he's hitting 4th beind Lee or 5th behind Burnitz. I just don't see Burnitz in the 4 spot against right handers as being a problem.

 

Burnitz            AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
batting 4th       163   31   46    9    0    7   76   20   25   23  0.282  0.378  0.466  0.844
batting 5th       106   18   32    6    1    5   55   17    6   19  0.302  0.333  0.519  0.852

 

Ramirez            AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
batting 4th       168   28   52   16    0   13  107   34   17   22  0.310  0.373  0.637  1.010
batting 5th       160   25   54    6    0   12   96   34   11   17  0.338  0.384  0.600  0.984

 

Using a slightly longer sample than you did..... both players are hitting very well over the last 2 weeks.....

 

07/10 - 07/23      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Ramirez            48   10   20    5    0    7   46   15    2    4  0.417  0.440  0.958  1.398
Burnitz            43    9   14    3    0    2   23    5    7    5  0.326  0.420  0.535  0.955

[Balsa]

Let's hope that Walker can get it together. I'll bet bottom dollar he hasn't been sleeping well recently.