Astros (Teng) vs Cubs (Rea): 5/23/26, 1:20pm

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

10 minutes ago, ToolDRT said:

Jed has literally never even won a division. Hes in a huge market and has plenty of resources. And still can’t make a team that doesn’t rely on the wild card to get into the dance. 
 

I really don’t think it’s dramatic to say he’s not the guy for the job at this point. 

You're moving the goalposts. Now it's he can't win a division. OK, dude. Have fun.

[Gjfificifjdej]

Wonder what the top prospects for the first round of the draft are looking like in 2027. 

[ToolDRT]

37 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

You're moving the goalposts. Now it's he can't win a division. OK, dude. Have fun.

Not at all. That’s me expanding on to my point. Not sure why you seem so confused and angry. It’s a baseball forum. Try to relax a little. 

[17 Seconds]

7 hours ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

Gonna be fascinating to see the fallout in the offseason after a losing season with high expectations. 

it's still unlikely they finish below .500

[Geographyhater8888]

15 hours ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

No "shakeup" is gonna cure this team. t's not a thing. Draw names out of a hat, throw darts at the lineup card, who cares. Play better

They haven’t composed a lineup in  reverse alphabetical order by mother’s maiden name yet. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Geographyhater8888

[Brian707]

Everything is going to be ok guys. It sucks now but its going to be fine 

[Geographyhater8888]

May of 2023: 23rd in runs, 25th in wRC+, May of 2024: 26th in runs, 23rd in rWC+, May of 2025: 3rd in runs, 6th in wRC+, May of 2026: 21st in runs, 24th in wRC+.

[Geographyhater8888]

3 hours ago, 17 Seconds said:

it's still unlikely they finish below .500

This is following a similar path to 23-24. Sure the bats could wake up today and they’ll be right back on track, but this cores offensive floor is way too low. When they’re bad they’re hopeless. 
It’s not matter of if but how long until they start scoring runs consistently and the potential to dig themselves into a hole they can’t climb out of with a pitching staff that can’t pick them up. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Geographyhater8888

[Gjfificifjdej]

15 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

This is following a similar path to 23-24. Sure the bats could wake up today and they’ll be right back on track, but this cores offensive floor is way too low. When they’re bad they’re hopeless. 
It’s not matter of if but how long until they start scoring runs consistently and the potential to dig themselves into a hole they can’t climb out of with a pitching staff that  can’t pick up them up. 

This basically my point. Yeah they’ve shown a high ceiling, but the overwhelming majority of the time the lineup is the worst in baseball. They are physically incapable of basic professionalism at the plate more often than not. 

[Cubs420psd]

10 hours ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

Wonder what the top prospects for the first round of the draft are looking like in 2027. 

Don't worry, we'll just draft a guy who's already hurt again.

[Gjfificifjdej]

3 hours ago, 17 Seconds said:

it's still unlikely they finish below .500

I wish I was that optimistic about anything. 20-3 can’t offset being truly putrid for the rest of the year. 

[Geographyhater8888]

29 minutes ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

This basically my point. Yeah they’ve shown a high ceiling, but the overwhelming majority of the time the lineup is the worst in baseball. They are physically incapable of basic professionalism at the plate more often than not. 

They’re 4th in runs scored and 7th in wRC+ since 2023. It’s far from most of the time but the extreme streakiness still persists. This wouldn’t be that big of a deal with a better pitching staff, but the over reliance on defensive runs saved comes with the price of a pitching staff that can’t keep the ball in the park year after year. When the offense is slumping the pitching staff will still allow 3-5 runs consistently, which is too many during these droughts and no true ace who’ll hold a team to 2 runs or less every 5 days.

Edited 13 hours ago by Geographyhater8888

[squally1313]

3 hours ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

This basically my point. Yeah they’ve shown a high ceiling, but the overwhelming majority of the time the lineup is the worst in baseball. They are physically incapable of basic professionalism at the plate more often than not. 

The team that is the worst lineup in baseball an overwhelming majority of the time is 4th or 5th in wRC/wOBA this year, so those brief moments that aren’t the overwhelming majority, they must be the greatest offense in baseball/sports history 

[Gjfificifjdej]

8 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

The team that is the worst lineup in baseball an overwhelming majority of the time is 4th or 5th in wRC/wOBA this year, so those brief moments that aren’t the overwhelming majority, they must be the greatest offense in baseball/sports history 

I mean yeah, they were really, really good for 23 games. Set that aside and this team is the Cleveland Spiders. 

[squally1313]

7 minutes ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

I mean yeah, they were really, really good for 23 games. Set that aside and this team is the Cleveland Spiders. 

I really think you need to conceptualize how bad today’s offenses are compared to the offenses the majority of us grew up with. 
 

for the overall season, we are the 4th or 5th best offense in baseball. I would assume ‘cubs offense in the games we lose’ would be roughly in line with ‘other teams offense in the games they lose’. The general opinion here seems to be ‘this was a historically amazing offense for a month, with the same players that were a top 5 offense last year, but actually it sucks’ which seems a little crazy to me. 

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, squally1313 said:

I really think you need to conceptualize how bad today’s offenses are compared to the offenses the majority of us grew up with. 
 

 

This cubs lineup would probably be striking out an average 10-12 times a game facing most of the pitching back in the 80s and 90s , getting shutout left and right given how they can struggle hard against teams 3-5 in their rotation now. 😂😂